weemanch

okay well im not still 110 percent sure what motor i want i have it narrowed down to either a b16 or a b18 (gs-r or ls) thats as far as i narrowed it down to and i know my power goals are 200-300 i know it will basically have to be turboed or supercharged but i would rather go turbo wit out the laughing gas and thats at the wheels and im not exactly sure wich one would be best ect im newer to the honda sence. so please help a newb out thanks.

t57b18

what chassie?

weemanch

93 dx hatch

Sr420Det

Whats your budget? Check out the faq's at the top of the page.

weemanch

my budget a typical high school budget lol im just shoping around cause if i c something i like ect im good at saving for x parts or watever it is.

weemanch

bump want help

crowder13

ls vtec might be the right swap. cheap and pretty quick. easily make 250 safely. good cheap turbo kit

weemanch

k so a cheap vtec swap guessing meaning mini me or are you meaning a full motor swap and yea after i do that ill figure out about cheap turbos after the first step o my bad just reread it. it says ls vtec wich i know is a integra ls ect motor with a vtec head how much would that run on the high side

agrn93ls

If you are in high school and on a budget I would stay away from LS/Vtec. LS/Vtec is ok but it can get complicated and pricey to do. It would be a lot cheaper and easier to do just a B18B ( LS ) and turbo that. That will meet your goals very easily. The vtec head alone can cost the same as an entire assembled/running LS engine

weemanch

so runthe non vtec head and what not and just build the ls block to meet my power needs then

agrn93ls

NO that motor is cabable of churning out your 200-300 whp range as is, no need to build that is why i suggest it, they are cheap and easy to find and durable. They are also the most user friendly if you need to work on it if you are new to it. And if you are in highschool I would just use the ol trusty LS. Yes people are gonna play up the vtec and say ooh you dont have vtec but expletiveem you can bust their *** and see what they say then

weemanch

k well what all mods would i need to get that motor there just the turbo and a cold air and exhaust or what cause e-missions and what not are not a problem here so that can all be thrown out the window with that stuff

weemanch

bumps want some more help

blwn95civic

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reading and learning from threads is your friend, along with the search button of course You have alot of learning about turbo setups ahead of you. IMO your best bet would to buy a LS swap, then learn enough about turbo setups to either piece together your own kit or purchase a complete kit.

BTW turbo's dont use cold air intakes

agrn93ls

I fully agree, you have a lot to learn, not being rude but you do not need a turbo yet until you under stand more

this info i posted is also available in the FORCED INDUCTION FAQ


TURBO 101 by Garrett (thanks RTW DC2R):
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/....html

What is in a turbo kit, what do I need?
http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yele....html
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1263795

Are Ebay/SSautochrome/OBX manifolds any good?:
There are COUNTLESS threads available on this by searching

Compressor Maps and Reading them properly:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=142398
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=96443

Which manifold works for me?? Topmount/ramhorn/miniram/log
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2152865

Where do I run my wastegate line to? Compressor or IM? (thanks Testudo)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=118699

Common bolt/nut sizes for Honda turbo setups:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=373905

How to decipher Garrett/Precision Turbo Names:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=763809

Turbo vs SC:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120

How to tune:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=979788

How can I hook up an alarm and turbo timer?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1018699
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1328129

What turbo comes in a Drag kit?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=934127

What do I gap my plugs at?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=877602

Whats an Electric supercharger/turbocharger? Any good?
NO.

Buying a used JRSC - what do I look for?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=907454

General JRSC questions/information
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=853964

AIR Intake Manifold?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=961203

SSAutochrome/OBX Turbo manifold?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=941816

Whats the difference between a log and equal length manifold (general manifold design info too)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=925312

Hondata or AEM?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=963992
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=708650
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=612698
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=671022

What is A/R?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1023414

Drag3 Turbo Install:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=635014

How do I break in my motor?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878397

Smaller turbo + more boost or Large turbo + less boost?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1004578

Spark Plug Information, NGK #'s and more! (thanks HXMan)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=510127

Oil Return Line Assembly (thanks HXMan)
http://www.fast-turbo.com/oilreturnassembly.html

Mounting Oil Lines on Firewall (thanks to B18EG6 & Type-X) :
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=377208

What about EGTs? How important is EGT?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=248965

BSPT/NPT/AN Fittings Explained and Line Info
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=364948
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1226089 (thanks vtec.dc2)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1312904 (thanks BlueShadow)

Why am I getting boost creep/spiking with my Drag manifold?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=856210
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=802961

What size IC piping should I use? (thanks BlueShadow)
https://honda-tech.com/zero...02591

Where do I tap my EGT guage?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=163453

Can I install Hondata and Injectors BEFORE I install my turbo kit?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=98092

What spark plugs do I use on an FI Honda?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=156273

How do I hook up my MBC?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=117513

Injector info:
http://www.robietherobot.com/s...e.htm

How do I install DSM injectors? (thanks 93turbo16)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=691345
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=195834
http://www.geocities.com/uncgo....html

Resistor Box wiring:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=441107
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=517274

GSR Engine Build - How-to and tips: (thanks to Jeff Evans for an awesome writeup)
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...build

The *definitive* AFC Hack thread: (thanks JDavis)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=841443

Uberdata install and tuning information: (thanks keebler65)
http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler65/honda

Information on Catch Cans and how to construct them: (thanks 95gsrcivic)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=766009
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=722482
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687222
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684673

...and the official crankcase evacuation thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1199935 (thanks dasher)

How do you setup the AVC-R gear boost?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1037051

Want to turbo your SOHC? Results!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1067168

How do I ship my block to get it sleeved? (thanks Testudo)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=629402

CFM vs PSI? Is 7PSI on one turbo the same as 7PSI on another? (thanks dornon13)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1055905

HOW-TO Install JRSC 92-00 Civic (thanks Enzospeed):
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1283655

Motorola 2.5Bar Map Sensor Info (thanks 93turbo16):
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1266876

General CRX Turbo Shopping List w/Prices (thanks BlueShadow):
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1157746

Where do I tap my EGT gauge? (thanks Testudo)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=163453

Wastegate: Route into DP = loss of power? (thanks Testudo)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=94820
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=151845

Tial Wastegate setup -
EBC - Top and Side ; MBC or no BC at all - Side port, leave top open

Turbo Rebuild:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1397101 (thanks stealthmode62)

Pulling motor tips; remove motor for mild build? (thanks Elpiar)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1419944

GM 3Bar Wiring (thanks vtec.dc2)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1440585

Volumetric Efficiency (thanks vtec.dc2)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1025485

Partial Throttle Tuning (thanks elpiar)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1543394

ALL EBAY TURBO INFORMATION:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1749857

weemanch

hey well yea non of them links wrked for me at all

95jeremie

they work for me...

agrn93ls

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Now I see why you dont know what you want to do, I clicked on the links and out of the 21 links I clicked on only the first 2 didnt work. Try a little harder to do something for your self and research and read. We dont mind helping you around here but you gotta do some of it yourself and last time I checked the search button was working and so was the entire Forced Induction forum and all the others. I spent a very long time just reading before I went turbo and I learned a ton of ****.

Not trying to be an *** but some of the stuff you are asking would easily be answered if you did some research for yourself you are the only one that knows what YOU want to do.