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Re: post ur EF pics (xDicktonesx)
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LAX to JAPAN round trip 40 dollars
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suitcase not big enough for the stuff I want
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suitcase not big enough for the stuff I want
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my job requires me to work with some plastic factories, so I kinda know the price for producing ABS/plastic items. The material alone may only cost $5, but it's the tooling (ie. molds) that cost a lot and drive the price up. If they could only sell 100 sets of those, I am not surprise to see they are priced at $300+, cuz the tooling alone could cost $10k+, may be more, i am not sure, cuz I've never work on something this big. However, if they could move 1000 sets quick, then the price should be a lot more reasonable, but considering the number of EF still on the road, i doubt it...
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Re: post ur EF pics (dc8237)
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Here's how I see it. Raw materials I'm sure isn't the majority of the cost. The OEM part had to be sourced, there was research and development that went into making the mold, obvious costs of trial and error during the process, company overhead (i.e. payroll, facility, etc), shipping costs to the distributor, mark-up by the manufacturer, then by the retailer (which is minimal in this case, trust me). Given the quality of the product and the difficulty/price of finding the actual OEM product, I'd have to say the price is fair. I'm not making a dime on these, I just want to help out an up and coming company run by good people.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DUFFM4N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they cost only $25-$30 to make, the only reason that they're not mass produced and stocked by retailers is because retailers dont want to stock parts that arent going to move as fast as, say...Vsion replica corners for EG...they stock whats going to move fast, they say its "made-to-order" but what they really mean is..."ive gotta call a manufacturer, see if they have any in stock...and have them shipped here"
ive sourced whos producing these sideskirts...maybe ill sell a few on here considering ppl are willing to pay $325 shipped</TD></TR></TABLE>
The fact is, I waited about a month for them to make mine, so perhaps we aren't speaking of the same people. I appreciate your input, but if you're not interested, or don't like the price, source them and sell them yourself, more power to you. All I ask is that you mind your business, and I'll mind mine.
Here's how I see it. Raw materials I'm sure isn't the majority of the cost. The OEM part had to be sourced, there was research and development that went into making the mold, obvious costs of trial and error during the process, company overhead (i.e. payroll, facility, etc), shipping costs to the distributor, mark-up by the manufacturer, then by the retailer (which is minimal in this case, trust me). Given the quality of the product and the difficulty/price of finding the actual OEM product, I'd have to say the price is fair. I'm not making a dime on these, I just want to help out an up and coming company run by good people.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DUFFM4N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they cost only $25-$30 to make, the only reason that they're not mass produced and stocked by retailers is because retailers dont want to stock parts that arent going to move as fast as, say...Vsion replica corners for EG...they stock whats going to move fast, they say its "made-to-order" but what they really mean is..."ive gotta call a manufacturer, see if they have any in stock...and have them shipped here"
ive sourced whos producing these sideskirts...maybe ill sell a few on here considering ppl are willing to pay $325 shipped</TD></TR></TABLE>
The fact is, I waited about a month for them to make mine, so perhaps we aren't speaking of the same people. I appreciate your input, but if you're not interested, or don't like the price, source them and sell them yourself, more power to you. All I ask is that you mind your business, and I'll mind mine.
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Re: post ur EF pics (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fact is, I waited about a month for them to make mine, so perhaps we aren't speaking of the same people. I appreciate your input, but if you're not interested, or don't like the price, source them and sell them yourself, more power to you. All I ask is that you mind your business, and I'll mind mine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well just like in ur 1st 1/2 of the post i was just tryin to help ppl out just like urself, but i was helping them from not getting raped in the butt with no lube...ur prolly took a month due to someone's stock being out...too many things play into u having to wait a month...oh well
well just like in ur 1st 1/2 of the post i was just tryin to help ppl out just like urself, but i was helping them from not getting raped in the butt with no lube...ur prolly took a month due to someone's stock being out...too many things play into u having to wait a month...oh well
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Re: post ur EF pics (DUFFM4N)
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well just like in ur 1st 1/2 of the post i was just tryin to help ppl out just like urself, but i was helping them from not getting raped in the butt with no lube...ur prolly took a month due to someone's stock being out...too many things play into u having to wait a month...oh well</TD></TR></TABLE>
A lot of things could play into it taking that long, but, like I said before, it's a friend and a trust worthy source. He has no reason to lie or mislead me of the fact that they had to be made for my order.
well just like in ur 1st 1/2 of the post i was just tryin to help ppl out just like urself, but i was helping them from not getting raped in the butt with no lube...ur prolly took a month due to someone's stock being out...too many things play into u having to wait a month...oh well</TD></TR></TABLE>
A lot of things could play into it taking that long, but, like I said before, it's a friend and a trust worthy source. He has no reason to lie or mislead me of the fact that they had to be made for my order.
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Re: post ur EF pics (KingDanOne)
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as long as they stay to keeping facts then everything should be fine
I'm going back to watch Naruto and I'll be back in a few
as long as they stay to keeping facts then everything should be fine
I'm going back to watch Naruto and I'll be back in a few
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Re: post ur EF pics (DUFFM4N)
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well just like in ur 1st 1/2 of the post i was just tryin to help ppl out just like urself, but i was helping them from not getting raped in the butt with no lube...ur prolly took a month due to someone's stock being out...too many things play into u having to wait a month...oh well</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks duffman
well just like in ur 1st 1/2 of the post i was just tryin to help ppl out just like urself, but i was helping them from not getting raped in the butt with no lube...ur prolly took a month due to someone's stock being out...too many things play into u having to wait a month...oh well</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks duffman
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Re: post ur EF pics (DUFFM4N)
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Was that necessary?
Was that necessary?
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Re: (vanos_pusha)
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what side skirts are those? and rear lip ??? EF9 ?
</TD></TR></TABLE>what side skirts are those? and rear lip ??? EF9 ?
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Re: (SiR_Injected)
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what side skirts are those? and rear lip ??? EF9 ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda Access
what side skirts are those? and rear lip ??? EF9 ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda Access
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Re: (SiR_Injected)
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Honda Access</TD></TR></TABLE>
damnit I wanted that one
oh yeah EE9
Honda Access</TD></TR></TABLE>
damnit I wanted that one
oh yeah EE9
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wm07 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my job requires me to work with some plastic factories, so I kinda know the price for producing ABS/plastic items. The material alone may only cost $5, but it's the tooling (ie. molds) that cost a lot and drive the price up. If they could only sell 100 sets of those, I am not surprise to see they are priced at $300+, cuz the tooling alone could cost $10k+, may be more, i am not sure, cuz I've never work on something this big. However, if they could move 1000 sets quick, then the price should be a lot more reasonable, but considering the number of EF still on the road, i doubt it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Abs is cheep to make
Abs is cheep to make
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
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Abs is cheep to make
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well when to put it that way it sounds so much eaiser
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchMo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so vega when ya gonna slang me that edm rear bumper free of charge? lol Pm me a price!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll check my calender
hmmm
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Jay-Z said that
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Abs is cheep to make
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well when to put it that way it sounds so much eaiser
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchMo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so vega when ya gonna slang me that edm rear bumper free of charge? lol Pm me a price!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll check my calender
hmmm
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Jay-Z said that
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Re: (HatchMo)
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well you wouldn't be able to use it anyway unless you are able to obtain a super-d-duper rare European Domestic Market EE9 rear bumper
well you wouldn't be able to use it anyway unless you are able to obtain a super-d-duper rare European Domestic Market EE9 rear bumper
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Re: (wm07)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wm07 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my job requires me to work with some plastic factories, so I kinda know the price for producing ABS/plastic items. The material alone may only cost $5, but it's the tooling (ie. molds) that cost a lot and drive the price up. If they could only sell 100 sets of those, I am not surprise to see they are priced at $300+, cuz the tooling alone could cost $10k+, may be more, i am not sure, cuz I've never work on something this big. However, if they could move 1000 sets quick, then the price should be a lot more reasonable, but considering the number of EF still on the road, i doubt it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah this is pretty much correct.
You people arent taking the tooling costs into consideration. I used to be a machinist and have worked on plastic injection molds and they are VERY expensive to make. For the mold for a side skirt you are looking at an easy $15k a piece. So think about how long it would take a company to recover from a $30k tooling expense even at $325. They would have to sell 92.3 sides skirts just to break even!
I also think about it this way. San Leandro honda charges $119 a side for the crx not including clips. If the aftermarket sides are anywhere near close to oem than $325 a set isnt bad! Just pay the money!
Modified by mekanism at 6:18 PM 2/14/2007
Yeah this is pretty much correct.
You people arent taking the tooling costs into consideration. I used to be a machinist and have worked on plastic injection molds and they are VERY expensive to make. For the mold for a side skirt you are looking at an easy $15k a piece. So think about how long it would take a company to recover from a $30k tooling expense even at $325. They would have to sell 92.3 sides skirts just to break even!
I also think about it this way. San Leandro honda charges $119 a side for the crx not including clips. If the aftermarket sides are anywhere near close to oem than $325 a set isnt bad! Just pay the money!
Modified by mekanism at 6:18 PM 2/14/2007
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Re: (mekanism)
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Yeah this is pretty much correct.
You people arent taking the tooling costs into consideration. I used to be a machinist and have worked on plastic injection molds and they are VERY expensive to make. For the mold for a side skirt you are looking at an easy $15k a piece. So think about how long it would take a company to recover from a $30k tooling expense even at $325. They would have to sell 92.3 sides skirts just to break even!
I also think about it this way. San Leandro honda charges $119 a side for the crx not including clips. If the aftermarket sides are anywhere near close to oem than $325 a set isnt bad! Just the pay the money! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Will you be my Valentine?
Thanks for the info.
Yeah this is pretty much correct.
You people arent taking the tooling costs into consideration. I used to be a machinist and have worked on plastic injection molds and they are VERY expensive to make. For the mold for a side skirt you are looking at an easy $15k a piece. So think about how long it would take a company to recover from a $30k tooling expense even at $325. They would have to sell 92.3 sides skirts just to break even!
I also think about it this way. San Leandro honda charges $119 a side for the crx not including clips. If the aftermarket sides are anywhere near close to oem than $325 a set isnt bad! Just the pay the money!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Will you be my Valentine?
Thanks for the info.
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Re: (vega_box)
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well you wouldn't be able to use it anyway unless you are able to obtain a super-d-duper rare European Domestic Market EE9 rear bumper</TD></TR></TABLE>
What? thats what i was asking you to sell me. The EDM rear bumper. Not the replica Honda Access stuff i plan on buying that when i obtain a bumper.
well you wouldn't be able to use it anyway unless you are able to obtain a super-d-duper rare European Domestic Market EE9 rear bumper</TD></TR></TABLE>
What? thats what i was asking you to sell me. The EDM rear bumper. Not the replica Honda Access stuff i plan on buying that when i obtain a bumper.
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Re: (HatchMo)
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What? thats what i was asking you to sell me. The EDM rear bumper. Not the replica Honda Access stuff i plan on buying that when i obtain a bumper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sell the man the bumper.
What? thats what i was asking you to sell me. The EDM rear bumper. Not the replica Honda Access stuff i plan on buying that when i obtain a bumper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sell the man the bumper.
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
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Sell the man the bumper. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree!
Sell the man the bumper.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I agree!
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Re: post ur EF pics (KingDanOne)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingDanOne »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i feel some tension building up..</TD></TR></TABLE>
no tension just stating a few facts from both sides of the spectrum
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crstfr14 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Was that necessary? </TD></TR></TABLE>
of course it was, everyone loves visual aids, even if they're mental ones
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dont worry B...i got u, should be hearing word back tomorrow
no tension just stating a few facts from both sides of the spectrum
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crstfr14 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Was that necessary? </TD></TR></TABLE>
of course it was, everyone loves visual aids, even if they're mental ones
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LoSt is BlaCk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks duffman
</TD></TR></TABLE>dont worry B...i got u, should be hearing word back tomorrow