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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
Na its Driver corner, Pass bumper, driver tail, all 90-91 ef hb
Also i forgot, my sunroof moves slow as hell on my hatch. I tried greasing it and still it slow. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Also i forgot, my sunroof moves slow as hell on my hatch. I tried greasing it and still it slow. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
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Looks like Invidia.
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yup. here is another pic since i am in a sharing mood:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smokinsax »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahh...the classic look of 88-89 CRX Si rims on a lowered hatch. </TD></TR></TABLE> Thanks
despite being ugly and heavy, they look era appropriate
Looks like Invidia.
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yup. here is another pic since i am in a sharing mood:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smokinsax »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahh...the classic look of 88-89 CRX Si rims on a lowered hatch. </TD></TR></TABLE> Thanks
despite being ugly and heavy, they look era appropriate
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Re: (EFection)
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not as loud as you would think, it never drones on me or anything. 60mm piping
It is even quieter with the addition of the turbo
you know what they say, turbos make the best mufflers
not as loud as you would think, it never drones on me or anything. 60mm piping
It is even quieter with the addition of the turbo
you know what they say, turbos make the best mufflers
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Re: (EFection)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFection »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd like to get a cat back but any modification to the exhaust is illegal in this glorious state. 
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lame.
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Na its Driver corner, Pass bumper, driver tail, all 90-91 ef hb
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Bummer dude, it's the driver side bumper light. The pass side was smashed up when I bought it. I'll dig through that box and see what else I got you might want.
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Bummer dude, it's the driver side bumper light. The pass side was smashed up when I bought it. I'll dig through that box and see what else I got you might want.
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
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If i got a dollar for every time I saw this pic, i would have a k swap by now.
When are we going to see NEW pics ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I get my license back in 2 days. So progress will be soon!
If i got a dollar for every time I saw this pic, i would have a k swap by now.
When are we going to see NEW pics ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I get my license back in 2 days. So progress will be soon!
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Re: (CRXBart)
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I get my license back in 2 days. So progress will be soon!</TD></TR></TABLE>
congrats, i know what it is like to have your wings clipped by the man
I get my license back in 2 days. So progress will be soon!</TD></TR></TABLE>
congrats, i know what it is like to have your wings clipped by the man
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Re: (Chronicsinners)
Since we're on the subject... I am supposed to be taking a safe driving class as a result of getting another ticket... Its been two months since I was in court shouldn't I have gotten a notice as to when I should be going to the class by now?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kNOwLedGe. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't act like he doesn't have a point.
I mean...You and I both know that a B-Series engine won't have an oil pan sitting 4 inches above the pavement like the K-Series does in every 1990's chassis it's swapped into.
Now that I think about it, I remember the B-Series swap in an ED chassis still sits pretty gosh darn low, but it can still easily be daily driven. I couldn't daily drive a K-Series ED here in LA for fear of destroying the oil pan, but then again, I feel the K-Series swap into the ED or DA chassis is utterly pointless from a rigidity standpoint in the first place. Our old chassis (in stock form) really can't handle 250whp in a circuit racing situation. I would bet that a B-Series ED would outperform a K-Series ED with comparable modifications on the circuit, unless the chassis with the K-Swap was reinforced for increased rigidity.
A K-Series ED makes for an expensive drag car/street brawler, and I would've loved something like that 7 years ago.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Obviously youve never been in a K-powered ED then or seen one. Ground clearance is superior because there is no header running low with the motor "reversed". I put 10000 miles on my car, drove from California to Toronto and never had an issue. There is no issue. My buddy has a GSR in a CRX and his header got ruined on its first drive. I would bet a K-series ED would be faster, theres a reason Honda Challenge has a big weight penalty for K-cars. The K makes more power, has an extra gear and is smoother. One could even argue weight distribution is better with the motor sitting on the opposite side of the car as the driver.
Don't act like he doesn't have a point.
I mean...You and I both know that a B-Series engine won't have an oil pan sitting 4 inches above the pavement like the K-Series does in every 1990's chassis it's swapped into.
Now that I think about it, I remember the B-Series swap in an ED chassis still sits pretty gosh darn low, but it can still easily be daily driven. I couldn't daily drive a K-Series ED here in LA for fear of destroying the oil pan, but then again, I feel the K-Series swap into the ED or DA chassis is utterly pointless from a rigidity standpoint in the first place. Our old chassis (in stock form) really can't handle 250whp in a circuit racing situation. I would bet that a B-Series ED would outperform a K-Series ED with comparable modifications on the circuit, unless the chassis with the K-Swap was reinforced for increased rigidity.
A K-Series ED makes for an expensive drag car/street brawler, and I would've loved something like that 7 years ago.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Obviously youve never been in a K-powered ED then or seen one. Ground clearance is superior because there is no header running low with the motor "reversed". I put 10000 miles on my car, drove from California to Toronto and never had an issue. There is no issue. My buddy has a GSR in a CRX and his header got ruined on its first drive. I would bet a K-series ED would be faster, theres a reason Honda Challenge has a big weight penalty for K-cars. The K makes more power, has an extra gear and is smoother. One could even argue weight distribution is better with the motor sitting on the opposite side of the car as the driver.
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Re: (Simmerman)
Some pages back we were discussing the Honda/Saturn stuff. Well we did a remote start at the shop today in an '07 Vue, and the engine looks just like the 3.5l Ridgeline engine. I had my Camera so I took some pics.
Also we did a start in a new Cobalt and the brake prop valve was identical to my EK unit in my CRX.
Also we did a start in a new Cobalt and the brake prop valve was identical to my EK unit in my CRX.
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Re: (STREETWERKZ)
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You guys can hate on the K motors all you want, I dont mind.
it's funny that all the K bashing in here is by people that havent experienced a k-powered car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am not hating on the K-Series engine in any fashion. It's the finest 4 cylinder engine in existence.
And yes, I have experienced a K-Series car.
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i dont see the difference between a 250whp B series and a 250whp K series except for more torque and better gearing in favor for the later. bringing up rigidity shouldnt even be up for debate, because i havent seen one roadrace car without an upgrade to their chassis regardless of powerplant. but i'd love to hear your theory as to why the K series into an ED/EF chassis is 'pointless'.</TD></TR></TABLE>
To tell you the truth, I haven't seen any K-Series EDs that road race, but then again, I'm not a member of K20A.org. I also don't know of any B-Series EDs that have 250whp and road race. I'm not saying it's any different. When you say upgrades to chassis, what do you mean?
My friend Patrick's DA makes 227whp, and for the DA to perform well with that much power on tracks like Laguna Seca, he did extensive chassis modifications like custom chromoly front bar between bumper mounts on the radiator support, custom firewall A-brace, modified EK fender braces, riveted the chassis, weld in cage, boxed rear subframe, etc. I can only imagine what would have to be done to the chassis to make a 250whp ED or DA be able to come anywhere near competing with a STOCK CHASSIS EG/DC/EK with a K-swap.
That's why I'm saying it's pointless. You talk of superior engines and people that doubt them as "haters" clinging to an inferior engine, but you're advocating putting the superior engine in an inferior chassis and seem to be reluctant to give the same criticism. Don't get me wrong, I love my inferior chassis to death, but I'm not going to claim that putting a superior engine in an inferior chassis is smart from a road racing standpoint. From a drag/street racing standpoint, it's a force to be reckoned with
I guess it's not completely pointless; you can stunt on the dyno, internet forum, and drag strip.
You guys can hate on the K motors all you want, I dont mind.
it's funny that all the K bashing in here is by people that havent experienced a k-powered car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am not hating on the K-Series engine in any fashion. It's the finest 4 cylinder engine in existence.
And yes, I have experienced a K-Series car.
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i dont see the difference between a 250whp B series and a 250whp K series except for more torque and better gearing in favor for the later. bringing up rigidity shouldnt even be up for debate, because i havent seen one roadrace car without an upgrade to their chassis regardless of powerplant. but i'd love to hear your theory as to why the K series into an ED/EF chassis is 'pointless'.
</TD></TR></TABLE>To tell you the truth, I haven't seen any K-Series EDs that road race, but then again, I'm not a member of K20A.org. I also don't know of any B-Series EDs that have 250whp and road race. I'm not saying it's any different. When you say upgrades to chassis, what do you mean?
My friend Patrick's DA makes 227whp, and for the DA to perform well with that much power on tracks like Laguna Seca, he did extensive chassis modifications like custom chromoly front bar between bumper mounts on the radiator support, custom firewall A-brace, modified EK fender braces, riveted the chassis, weld in cage, boxed rear subframe, etc. I can only imagine what would have to be done to the chassis to make a 250whp ED or DA be able to come anywhere near competing with a STOCK CHASSIS EG/DC/EK with a K-swap.
That's why I'm saying it's pointless. You talk of superior engines and people that doubt them as "haters" clinging to an inferior engine, but you're advocating putting the superior engine in an inferior chassis and seem to be reluctant to give the same criticism. Don't get me wrong, I love my inferior chassis to death, but I'm not going to claim that putting a superior engine in an inferior chassis is smart from a road racing standpoint. From a drag/street racing standpoint, it's a force to be reckoned with
I guess it's not completely pointless; you can stunt on the dyno, internet forum, and drag strip.
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Re: (kNOwLedGe.)
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My friend Patrick's DA makes 227whp, and for the DA to perform well with that much power on tracks like Laguna Seca, he did extensive chassis modifications like custom chromoly front bar between bumper mounts on the radiator support, custom firewall A-brace, modified EK fender braces, riveted the chassis, weld in cage, boxed rear subframe, etc. I can only imagine what would have to be done to the chassis to make a 250whp ED or DA be able to come anywhere near competing with a STOCK CHASSIS EG/DC/EK with a K-swap.
but you're advocating putting the superior engine in an inferior chassis and seem to be reluctant to give the same criticism. : </TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay, I'm going to have to pick apart your statement because I'm in "that mood." Your friend WASTED A LOT OF MONEY. Why did he do all that to a DA that will perform FINE with 227whp? Ryan runs 236whp in his CRX and I sat in his car as we cleaned up at Buttonwillow.
You keep talking about the ED being an inferior chassis. This statement is outright exaggerated. The only thing markedly inferior about the ED chassis is its wheelbase (especially CRX). Such a short wheelbase adds for a twitch car.
Want to make a 225whp+ ED more rigid? Spend the $500 for an Autopower 4-point roll bar shipped to your door. However, running all that additional bracing is overkill and added weight. Check my avatar.
My friend Patrick's DA makes 227whp, and for the DA to perform well with that much power on tracks like Laguna Seca, he did extensive chassis modifications like custom chromoly front bar between bumper mounts on the radiator support, custom firewall A-brace, modified EK fender braces, riveted the chassis, weld in cage, boxed rear subframe, etc. I can only imagine what would have to be done to the chassis to make a 250whp ED or DA be able to come anywhere near competing with a STOCK CHASSIS EG/DC/EK with a K-swap.
but you're advocating putting the superior engine in an inferior chassis and seem to be reluctant to give the same criticism. : </TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay, I'm going to have to pick apart your statement because I'm in "that mood." Your friend WASTED A LOT OF MONEY. Why did he do all that to a DA that will perform FINE with 227whp? Ryan runs 236whp in his CRX and I sat in his car as we cleaned up at Buttonwillow.
You keep talking about the ED being an inferior chassis. This statement is outright exaggerated. The only thing markedly inferior about the ED chassis is its wheelbase (especially CRX). Such a short wheelbase adds for a twitch car.
Want to make a 225whp+ ED more rigid? Spend the $500 for an Autopower 4-point roll bar shipped to your door. However, running all that additional bracing is overkill and added weight. Check my avatar.
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Okay, I'm going to have to pick apart your statement because I'm in "that mood." Your friend WASTED A LOT OF MONEY. Why did he do all that to a DA that will perform FINE with 227whp? </TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHA. He either custom made the parts himself, or modified parts from other chassis that he got for dirt cheap when he lived in Japan. How do you know how much money he wasted?
http://www.tnd2gen.com
I guess he's the type of person that doesn't just want his car to perform "fine," he wants to be the fastest he can be. That's what racing is about, isn't it?
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You keep talking about the ED being an inferior chassis. This statement is outright exaggerated. The only thing markedly inferior about the ED chassis is its wheelbase (especially CRX). Such a short wheelbase adds for a twitch car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.
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running all that additional bracing is overkill and added weight. Check my avatar. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That must've been why his car was competing with near 300whp K-Series DCs...
Oh, and chromoly isn't known to be that heavy for how strong it is...
Okay, I'm going to have to pick apart your statement because I'm in "that mood." Your friend WASTED A LOT OF MONEY. Why did he do all that to a DA that will perform FINE with 227whp? </TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHA. He either custom made the parts himself, or modified parts from other chassis that he got for dirt cheap when he lived in Japan. How do you know how much money he wasted?
http://www.tnd2gen.com
I guess he's the type of person that doesn't just want his car to perform "fine," he wants to be the fastest he can be. That's what racing is about, isn't it?
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You keep talking about the ED being an inferior chassis. This statement is outright exaggerated. The only thing markedly inferior about the ED chassis is its wheelbase (especially CRX). Such a short wheelbase adds for a twitch car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.
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running all that additional bracing is overkill and added weight. Check my avatar. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That must've been why his car was competing with near 300whp K-Series DCs...
Oh, and chromoly isn't known to be that heavy for how strong it is...
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HAHA. He either custom made the parts himself, or modified parts from other chassis that he got for dirt cheap when he lived in Japan. How do you know how much money he wasted?
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I don't, but since you've decided to return the ill flavor I gave to you, I'll rephrase my statement; I think your friend wasted time then. Don't bother arguing with my statement.
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I guess he's the type of person that doesn't just want his car to perform "fine," he wants to be the fastest he can be. That's what racing is about, isn't it?
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Good for him.
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You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.
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Refer to the big words I used. Why would I joke around? You're exaggerating. That doesn't mean you are incorrect. Read, please.
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That must've been why his car was competing with near 300whp K-Series DCs...
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I'm glad you can be so "knowledgeable" with all the personal experience you have.
All of this boils down to the fact that you're saying an ED can't perform well on track with 225whp +. That's just a lame statement to make
HAHA. He either custom made the parts himself, or modified parts from other chassis that he got for dirt cheap when he lived in Japan. How do you know how much money he wasted?
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I don't, but since you've decided to return the ill flavor I gave to you, I'll rephrase my statement; I think your friend wasted time then. Don't bother arguing with my statement.
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I guess he's the type of person that doesn't just want his car to perform "fine," he wants to be the fastest he can be. That's what racing is about, isn't it?
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Good for him.
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You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.
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Refer to the big words I used. Why would I joke around? You're exaggerating. That doesn't mean you are incorrect. Read, please.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kNOwLedGe. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That must've been why his car was competing with near 300whp K-Series DCs...
</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm glad you can be so "knowledgeable" with all the personal experience you have.
All of this boils down to the fact that you're saying an ED can't perform well on track with 225whp +. That's just a lame statement to make