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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
Random vid of horrible chassis CRX destroying one of the best Japanese supercars on a road course below. Also Nick, I know where you can get one of those wings in the bay area.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=un_axGHMJ_g
http://youtube.com/watch?v=un_axGHMJ_g
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who the hell are you? seems like you're the one stuntin'. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Me? Stuntin'? Hardly. I know my 18 year old Honda's place.
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although you drew upon chad's statement about 'switching around the engine bay' or whatever.... YOU WERE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE POTENCY OF THE ED/EF CHASSIS FOR ROADRACING. nowhere in mine or his statements did we bring up road racing. you did.
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You specifically asked why I thought a K-Series swap into an ED or DA was pointless. I gave my opinion about it from a road racing perspective and a good conversation ensued.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wasn't implying that you were hating. Just that other fellow with knowledge or whatever as his name.
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Ouch. Cheap shot.
who the hell are you? seems like you're the one stuntin'. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Me? Stuntin'? Hardly. I know my 18 year old Honda's place.
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although you drew upon chad's statement about 'switching around the engine bay' or whatever.... YOU WERE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE POTENCY OF THE ED/EF CHASSIS FOR ROADRACING. nowhere in mine or his statements did we bring up road racing. you did.
</TD></TR></TABLE>You specifically asked why I thought a K-Series swap into an ED or DA was pointless. I gave my opinion about it from a road racing perspective and a good conversation ensued.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wasn't implying that you were hating. Just that other fellow with knowledge or whatever as his name.
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Ouch. Cheap shot.
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Re: (CRXBart)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Random vid of horrible chassis CRX destroying one of the best Japanese supercars on a road course below. Also Nick, I know where you can get one of those wings in the bay area.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=un_axGHMJ_g</TD></TR></TABLE>
^God damn. That footwork was insane!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=un_axGHMJ_g</TD></TR></TABLE>
^God damn. That footwork was insane!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Random vid of horrible chassis CRX destroying one of the best Japanese supercars on a road course below. Also Nick, I know where you can get one of those wings in the bay area.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=un_axGHMJ_g</TD></TR></TABLE>
How doesnt 3rd gear grind stupid hard in that car. Oh wait he has a b series
http://youtube.com/watch?v=un_axGHMJ_g</TD></TR></TABLE>
How doesnt 3rd gear grind stupid hard in that car. Oh wait he has a b series
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
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How doesnt 3rd gear grind stupid hard in that car. Oh wait he has a b series </TD></TR></TABLE>
B-SERIES 
How doesnt 3rd gear grind stupid hard in that car. Oh wait he has a b series
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Me? Stuntin'? Hardly. I know my 18 year old Honda's place.
You specifically asked why I thought a K-Series swap into an ED or DA was pointless. I gave my opinion about it from a road racing perspective and a good conversation ensued.
Ouch. Cheap shot. </TD></TR></TABLE>
basically it comes down to this knowledge....
you stated the ED/EF and DA chassis are inferior, but you brought up your friends DA. saying that he can hang with 300whp K swapped cars.
your statements are contradicting one another.
you saw my post, and wanted to argue. hope you had fun.
Me? Stuntin'? Hardly. I know my 18 year old Honda's place.
You specifically asked why I thought a K-Series swap into an ED or DA was pointless. I gave my opinion about it from a road racing perspective and a good conversation ensued.
Ouch. Cheap shot.
</TD></TR></TABLE>basically it comes down to this knowledge....
you stated the ED/EF and DA chassis are inferior, but you brought up your friends DA. saying that he can hang with 300whp K swapped cars.
your statements are contradicting one another.
you saw my post, and wanted to argue. hope you had fun.
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How doesnt 3rd gear grind stupid hard in that car. Oh wait he has a b series </TD></TR></TABLE>
Is that implying that K's grind third. because I never have. Back when I had a B the **** *** tranny had third gear grinds regularly. Shity transmissions. It is all about the tripple cone synchros of the K trans...
How doesnt 3rd gear grind stupid hard in that car. Oh wait he has a b series
</TD></TR></TABLE>Is that implying that K's grind third. because I never have. Back when I had a B the **** *** tranny had third gear grinds regularly. Shity transmissions. It is all about the tripple cone synchros of the K trans...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
basically it comes down to this knowledge....
you stated the ED/EF and DA chassis are inferior, but you brought up your friends DA. saying that he can hang with 300whp K swapped cars.
your statements are contradicting one another.
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Not quite. My friend's car is an inferior chassis with an inferior engine. I was saying that I don't advocate using an inferior chassis with a superior engine producing ~250whp because it wouldn't be the best at handling all of that power (Not to say that it couldn't or shouldn't, it just isn't practical when there are other chassis equipped to do it in stock form).
Why don't you ask Loi why he scrapped the 300whp K-DC as a road race car? Why do you think the UNDERPOWERED version was putting down equal or better lap times? A car must be BALANCED, and personally, I think it's hard to balance ~250whp in an inferior chassis. The reason my friend's inferior DA with 227whp could compete with a 300whp DC: BALANCE. I feel the same could happen with an underpowered B-Series ED vs. a K-Series ED, but that's just my thought.
Bottom line. I have not contradicted myself.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you saw my post, and wanted to argue. hope you had fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Of course I had fun.
basically it comes down to this knowledge....
you stated the ED/EF and DA chassis are inferior, but you brought up your friends DA. saying that he can hang with 300whp K swapped cars.
your statements are contradicting one another.
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Not quite. My friend's car is an inferior chassis with an inferior engine. I was saying that I don't advocate using an inferior chassis with a superior engine producing ~250whp because it wouldn't be the best at handling all of that power (Not to say that it couldn't or shouldn't, it just isn't practical when there are other chassis equipped to do it in stock form).
Why don't you ask Loi why he scrapped the 300whp K-DC as a road race car? Why do you think the UNDERPOWERED version was putting down equal or better lap times? A car must be BALANCED, and personally, I think it's hard to balance ~250whp in an inferior chassis. The reason my friend's inferior DA with 227whp could compete with a 300whp DC: BALANCE. I feel the same could happen with an underpowered B-Series ED vs. a K-Series ED, but that's just my thought.
Bottom line. I have not contradicted myself.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you saw my post, and wanted to argue. hope you had fun.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Of course I had fun.
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I thought I remember hearing that k's had them through out. I could be wrong. Simple and plain, K trans are allot newer, and less likely to be fucked up. Not like old B series crap. Then you got to spend money, and fix the trans instead of saving money, and making more power.
I thought I remember hearing that k's had them through out. I could be wrong. Simple and plain, K trans are allot newer, and less likely to be fucked up. Not like old B series crap. Then you got to spend money, and fix the trans instead of saving money, and making more power.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kNOwLedGe. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not quite. My friend's car is an inferior chassis with an inferior engine. I was saying that I don't advocate using an inferior chassis with a superior engine producing ~250whp because it wouldn't be the best at handling all of that power (Not to say that it couldn't or shouldn't, it just isn't practical when there are other chassis equipped to do it in stock form).
Why don't you ask Loi why he scrapped the 300whp K-DC as a road race car? Why do you think the UNDERPOWERED version was putting down equal or better lap times? A car must be BALANCED, and personally, I think it's hard to balance ~250whp in an inferior chassis. The reason my friend's inferior DA with 227whp could compete with a 300whp DC: BALANCE. I feel the same could happen with an underpowered B-Series ED vs. a K-Series ED, but that's just my thought.
Bottom line. I have not contradicted myself.
Of course I had fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So why did Andy Pope destroy everyone else this country has to offer at the 2005 East vs West Honda Challenge battle in his golden egg? Why, if it is such a terrible chassis, then why did he win, and win with an incredible magin of victory all weekend long? No one was even close.
Not quite. My friend's car is an inferior chassis with an inferior engine. I was saying that I don't advocate using an inferior chassis with a superior engine producing ~250whp because it wouldn't be the best at handling all of that power (Not to say that it couldn't or shouldn't, it just isn't practical when there are other chassis equipped to do it in stock form).
Why don't you ask Loi why he scrapped the 300whp K-DC as a road race car? Why do you think the UNDERPOWERED version was putting down equal or better lap times? A car must be BALANCED, and personally, I think it's hard to balance ~250whp in an inferior chassis. The reason my friend's inferior DA with 227whp could compete with a 300whp DC: BALANCE. I feel the same could happen with an underpowered B-Series ED vs. a K-Series ED, but that's just my thought.
Bottom line. I have not contradicted myself.
Of course I had fun.
</TD></TR></TABLE>So why did Andy Pope destroy everyone else this country has to offer at the 2005 East vs West Honda Challenge battle in his golden egg? Why, if it is such a terrible chassis, then why did he win, and win with an incredible magin of victory all weekend long? No one was even close.
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I thought I remember hearing that k's had them through out. I could be wrong. Simple and plain, K trans are allot newer, and less likely to be fucked up. Not like old B series crap. Then you got to spend money, and fix the trans instead of saving money, and making more power.
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K20a-JDM ITR and CTR both come in with 11.5:1 compression and 2 liters of displacement. The Type R motor is rated at 220hp at 8,000rpm and 152lb-ft at 7,000 rpm. Both of these motors have the same VTEC mechanism as the older B series motors but with the addition of VTC. It also has larger cams, higher compression and larger intake manifold than the Type S motor. This motor comes with a 6 speed transmission and LSD. The 6-speed manual transmission uses multiple synchronizing cones for all gears, including a triple-cone synchronizer in 1st and 2nd gears and a double-cone synchronizer in 3rd through 6th gears.
b and d trannies are actually great trannies if you push the clutch all the way in when you shift.
I agree about the ks being newer though and far less likely to get one that grinds
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Re: (CRXBart)
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So why did Andy Pope destroy everyone else this country has to offer at the 2005 East vs West Honda Challenge battle in his golden egg? Why, if it is such a terrible chassis, then why did he win, and win with an incredible magin of victory all weekend long? No one was even close. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Who is Andy Pope? I know Andy Hope, but never heard of Andy Pope.
Whoever it was, he must have found a way to build a balanced car and drive the hell out of it. Plain and simple.
You act like criticism of a certain platform means I think it can't ever be successful, which is not what I'm saying.
So why did Andy Pope destroy everyone else this country has to offer at the 2005 East vs West Honda Challenge battle in his golden egg? Why, if it is such a terrible chassis, then why did he win, and win with an incredible magin of victory all weekend long? No one was even close. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Who is Andy Pope? I know Andy Hope, but never heard of Andy Pope.
Whoever it was, he must have found a way to build a balanced car and drive the hell out of it. Plain and simple.
You act like criticism of a certain platform means I think it can't ever be successful, which is not what I'm saying.
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Re: (kNOwLedGe.)
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You act like criticism of a certain platform means I think it can't ever be successful, which is not what I'm saying.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so, what are you saying? you brought up the chassis and road racing argument. i just dont see why you did. you came out of left field.
<FONT SIZE="2">anyway..... new page, new subject. </FONT>
You act like criticism of a certain platform means I think it can't ever be successful, which is not what I'm saying.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so, what are you saying? you brought up the chassis and road racing argument. i just dont see why you did. you came out of left field.
<FONT SIZE="2">anyway..... new page, new subject. </FONT>
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Re: (STREETWERKZ)
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<FONT SIZE="2">anyway..... new page, new subject. </FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
SO...
How about those wire tucks, carbon fiber covers and engine bay color schemes?
<FONT SIZE="2">anyway..... new page, new subject. </FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
SO...
How about those wire tucks, carbon fiber covers and engine bay color schemes?
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Re: (STREETWERKZ)
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so, what are you saying? you brought up the chassis and road racing argument. i just dont see why you did. you came out of left field.
<FONT SIZE="2">anyway..... new page, new subject. </FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
**** this thread sucks. I am going back to the Mugen, and Saved Bays Threads.
so, what are you saying? you brought up the chassis and road racing argument. i just dont see why you did. you came out of left field.
<FONT SIZE="2">anyway..... new page, new subject. </FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
**** this thread sucks. I am going back to the Mugen, and Saved Bays Threads.
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SO...
How about those wire tucks, carbon fiber covers and engine bay color schemes?
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SO....
How about being an *** for no apparent reason at all?
Please show us your mighty machine since ours are so terrible. Envy is a horrible trait to possess. I feel sorry for you.
SO...
How about those wire tucks, carbon fiber covers and engine bay color schemes?
</TD></TR></TABLE>SO....
How about being an *** for no apparent reason at all?
Please show us your mighty machine since ours are so terrible. Envy is a horrible trait to possess. I feel sorry for you.
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
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what the hell you doing on clubcivic you creep
???</TD></TR></TABLE>what the hell you doing on clubcivic you creep