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Re: (STREETWERKZ)
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better be deep into the 12s, or you're doing something wrong. hell, bart ran 12s on street tires.
220+whp with bolt ons...... come on, that's a no-brainer.
might as well stick to D-series, it's cheaper.
as for B-series being cheaper, it should be. it's an old motor. the newest used B motor is 7 years old. and to make the kind of power that a k motor puts out stock, a B motor would need to be torn apart and rebuilt. then the price of the aftermarket internals would cost as much as a k motor. K-series heads STOCK outflow the best ported B series head any day of the week. etc. etc. etc. there are reasons why people are 'jumping on the bandwagon'. that bandwagon is a better platform.
...and don't bring up boost, you can boost any motor and make power.
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Hate Hate Hate. I never said i hate the k20 man, go smoke that morning bowl
better be deep into the 12s, or you're doing something wrong. hell, bart ran 12s on street tires.
220+whp with bolt ons...... come on, that's a no-brainer.
might as well stick to D-series, it's cheaper.
as for B-series being cheaper, it should be. it's an old motor. the newest used B motor is 7 years old. and to make the kind of power that a k motor puts out stock, a B motor would need to be torn apart and rebuilt. then the price of the aftermarket internals would cost as much as a k motor. K-series heads STOCK outflow the best ported B series head any day of the week. etc. etc. etc. there are reasons why people are 'jumping on the bandwagon'. that bandwagon is a better platform.
...and don't bring up boost, you can boost any motor and make power.
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Hate Hate Hate. I never said i hate the k20 man, go smoke that morning bowl
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Re: (STREETWERKZ)
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You guys can hate on the K motors all you want, I dont mind.
it's funny that all the K bashing in here is by people that havent experienced a k-powered car.
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I didn't even mention a K in my original statement because most of my good car buddies have them in their CRX's! Anyone who bashes a K is just being lame and jealous. I see the difference everytime Ryan and I cruise somewhere or back when Chris was living out here with us.
You guys can hate on the K motors all you want, I dont mind.
it's funny that all the K bashing in here is by people that havent experienced a k-powered car.
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I didn't even mention a K in my original statement because most of my good car buddies have them in their CRX's! Anyone who bashes a K is just being lame and jealous. I see the difference everytime Ryan and I cruise somewhere or back when Chris was living out here with us.
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Re: (nickrps)
To clear up the K hate. Here is my pan clearance:
At this ride height.
...and it ran a 12.9 spinning like mad. Easily a second faster with slicks. The car I raced had slicks, and didn't pull me any once I got hooked up.
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm...27220
I had full intentions of building a 250whp B. Reliability, and simplicity prevailed, and K it was....
At this ride height.
...and it ran a 12.9 spinning like mad. Easily a second faster with slicks. The car I raced had slicks, and didn't pull me any once I got hooked up.
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm...27220
I had full intentions of building a 250whp B. Reliability, and simplicity prevailed, and K it was....
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Re: (Chronicsinners)
K hate? there is no hate, just stating the reasons for my decision, as was everyone else.
you guys just love to feel as if people are "hating on you". gives a sense of underdog-ness or something, im not sure. no one is hating on anyone. i even invited jimmy day to come to the track this summer.
you guys just love to feel as if people are "hating on you". gives a sense of underdog-ness or something, im not sure. no one is hating on anyone. i even invited jimmy day to come to the track this summer.
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Re: (vega_ROCKS)
Yes the header is custom made by a dude that replicates SMSP and RMF for 1/2 the price of the real deal stuff and considering RMF isn't in business anymore it's hard to get the real one.
Gourley - Haha thanks. I love B20 myself. I have a 00 Si head to throw on it but it floated 4 valves so I need to rebuilt it and get some cams and get some machine work on it before I throw it on.
After I get it fully running right w/ VTEC I'm going to throw a direct port 50 shot on it and shoot for mid 12s with an open diff.
B16_madman:
Haha thanks. I am currently in high school myself. I love my EF dumped on my free suspension. I was about to get ground controls but this dude I know said if I let him buy those Ground controls he will give me his current suspension. So I got some free Ebay coilovers and KYB AGXs but I purchased Blox LCAs because we had to hack and cut off the factory ones because they were so old.
Gourley - Haha thanks. I love B20 myself. I have a 00 Si head to throw on it but it floated 4 valves so I need to rebuilt it and get some cams and get some machine work on it before I throw it on.
After I get it fully running right w/ VTEC I'm going to throw a direct port 50 shot on it and shoot for mid 12s with an open diff.
B16_madman:
Haha thanks. I am currently in high school myself. I love my EF dumped on my free suspension. I was about to get ground controls but this dude I know said if I let him buy those Ground controls he will give me his current suspension. So I got some free Ebay coilovers and KYB AGXs but I purchased Blox LCAs because we had to hack and cut off the factory ones because they were so old.
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Re: (Simmerman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Simmerman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes the header is custom made by a dude that replicates SMSP and RMF for 1/2 the price of the real deal stuff and considering RMF isn't in business anymore it's hard to get the real one.
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dyno test that thing. From the looks of it the the piping doesn't look like the bends match all around. Might mess up air flow
Not knocking the header because honestly I don't know that much about nor how to make them.
But it would great to see how it holds up to dyno tested headers out there.
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dyno test that thing. From the looks of it the the piping doesn't look like the bends match all around. Might mess up air flow
Not knocking the header because honestly I don't know that much about nor how to make them.
But it would great to see how it holds up to dyno tested headers out there.
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Re: (Simmerman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Simmerman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Made 188whp w/ a 3" intake, 2.5" exhaust, STOCK B20/VTEC w/ type R IM/TB/cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What head?
What head gasket?
Compression ratio?
188whp is pretty good
What head?
What head gasket?
Compression ratio?
188whp is pretty good
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Re: (vega_ROCKS)
I have no idea what it made before the header. I think they dyno compared it with a Type R header but I will have to find out because it was not my car.
Like I said it wasn't my car so I don't know every detail but I talked to the owner once (was drinking so don't remember alot) but I know it was a B16 head. I don't know what head gasket and it was a stock motor other than that. I think it may have been a 99-00 spec (higher compression) but don't know for sure. Ill find out.
Like I said it wasn't my car so I don't know every detail but I talked to the owner once (was drinking so don't remember alot) but I know it was a B16 head. I don't know what head gasket and it was a stock motor other than that. I think it may have been a 99-00 spec (higher compression) but don't know for sure. Ill find out.
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Re: (vega_ROCKS)
Just found out from my buddy (previous owner of the header)
12:1 LS/VTEC motor
81.5mm I think
That header
edelbrock cams
205whp
He just told me that one of his friends wants to compare it against his DTR header. I told him he can use it whenever he wants. It's a built B20/VTEC.
12:1 LS/VTEC motor
81.5mm I think
That header
edelbrock cams
205whp
He just told me that one of his friends wants to compare it against his DTR header. I told him he can use it whenever he wants. It's a built B20/VTEC.
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Re: (Simmerman)
the thing about a replica header is that the person who replicate it might be replicating the design but it's not the design that counts.. it's the work inside that counts
inside an smsp header
inside an smsp header
Re: (CRXBart)
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At this ride height.
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If i got a dollar for every time I saw this pic, i would have a k swap by now.
When are we going to see NEW pics ?
At this ride height.
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If i got a dollar for every time I saw this pic, i would have a k swap by now.
When are we going to see NEW pics ?
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Re: (Simmerman)
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Looks like Invidia.
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He was going to, but then he got high.
Looks like Invidia.
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He was going to, but then he got high.
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Looks like Invidia.
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Just like you looking for my bumper lights
Since im finally going to be making decent money (not that great but better). I think i need to lose this obx exhaust and get something nicer for the hatch.
Looks like Invidia.
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Just like you looking for my bumper lights
Since im finally going to be making decent money (not that great but better). I think i need to lose this obx exhaust and get something nicer for the hatch.
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
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Touche`!!!
I actually thought about it this morning, but it was 5:40am and I didn't feel like getting dirty going through that box of junk before work. It's the driver side, which do you need?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Touche`!!!
I actually thought about it this morning, but it was 5:40am and I didn't feel like getting dirty going through that box of junk before work. It's the driver side, which do you need?