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This was my internal argument of about a month ago. I ended up with an 08 Suzuki sx4, slightly more performance inclined than say a fit, but not as expensive as a wrx. I was really leaning towards a new wrx wagon, but they are priced so much higher and thier gas mileage isn't great. My sx4 gets 29-30 MPG, and has selectable awd. Suzuki was/is offering some great incentives (free gas, college grad bonus, 0% APR, etc..). The aftermarket is up and coming; Roadrace motorsports makes a couple cool parts. It may not be your first choice or everyones best fit, but it worked for me and i don't regret it one bit

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you'll love it! i got my Aerio as a daily/worktruck, 2.5 years and 50,000 miles later, i couldn't be happier with its quality and reliability.
only thing, is the 2.3L only gets about 25 mpg in mine.
This was my internal argument of about a month ago. I ended up with an 08 Suzuki sx4, slightly more performance inclined than say a fit, but not as expensive as a wrx. I was really leaning towards a new wrx wagon, but they are priced so much higher and thier gas mileage isn't great. My sx4 gets 29-30 MPG, and has selectable awd. Suzuki was/is offering some great incentives (free gas, college grad bonus, 0% APR, etc..). The aftermarket is up and coming; Roadrace motorsports makes a couple cool parts. It may not be your first choice or everyones best fit, but it worked for me and i don't regret it one bit

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you'll love it! i got my Aerio as a daily/worktruck, 2.5 years and 50,000 miles later, i couldn't be happier with its quality and reliability.
only thing, is the 2.3L only gets about 25 mpg in mine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This was my internal argument of about a month ago. I ended up with an 08 Suzuki sx4, slightly more performance inclined than say a fit, but not as expensive as a wrx. I was really leaning towards a new wrx wagon, but they are priced so much higher and thier gas mileage isn't great. My sx4 gets 29-30 MPG, and has selectable awd. Suzuki was/is offering some great incentives (free gas, college grad bonus, 0% APR, etc..). The aftermarket is up and coming; Roadrace motorsports makes a couple cool parts. It may not be your first choice or everyones best fit, but it worked for me and i don't regret it one bit

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are they going to make a turbo charge model?
This was my internal argument of about a month ago. I ended up with an 08 Suzuki sx4, slightly more performance inclined than say a fit, but not as expensive as a wrx. I was really leaning towards a new wrx wagon, but they are priced so much higher and thier gas mileage isn't great. My sx4 gets 29-30 MPG, and has selectable awd. Suzuki was/is offering some great incentives (free gas, college grad bonus, 0% APR, etc..). The aftermarket is up and coming; Roadrace motorsports makes a couple cool parts. It may not be your first choice or everyones best fit, but it worked for me and i don't regret it one bit

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are they going to make a turbo charge model?
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Thanks, Nice
Anymore pics of yours?
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are they going to make a turbo charge model?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, they have no plans to make a turbocharged version. However RRM has just started shipping thier turbokits. They are very comprehensive, but also very expensive ($5400
) Good for 221whp
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anybody know about rolling fenders? or do i have the wrong offset wheels?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the fender rolling tool for rent if you need it. I once had a set of k1's that were +25, they didnt fit right on my ef and i eventually got rid of them.
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Thanks, Nice
Anymore pics of yours?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RapeV-8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are they going to make a turbo charge model?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, they have no plans to make a turbocharged version. However RRM has just started shipping thier turbokits. They are very comprehensive, but also very expensive ($5400
) Good for 221whp
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g2_teg_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
anybody know about rolling fenders? or do i have the wrong offset wheels?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the fender rolling tool for rent if you need it. I once had a set of k1's that were +25, they didnt fit right on my ef and i eventually got rid of them.
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are they going to make a turbo charge model?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol dude, your HT-name is epically awesome. Made me laugh at 5 AM haha
are they going to make a turbo charge model?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol dude, your HT-name is epically awesome. Made me laugh at 5 AM haha
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I have the fender rolling tool for rent if you need it. I once had a set of k1's that were +25, they didnt fit right on my ef and i eventually got rid of them.
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what does it look like
I too need to roll my fender
I have the fender rolling tool for rent if you need it. I once had a set of k1's that were +25, they didnt fit right on my ef and i eventually got rid of them.
</TD></TR></TABLE>what does it look like
I too need to roll my fender
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_ROCKS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what does it look like
I too need to roll my fender</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pm'd

Anyone else that needs/wants to use it, check out my page: http://www.bobfab.com all the details are there...
what does it look like
I too need to roll my fender</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pm'd

Anyone else that needs/wants to use it, check out my page: http://www.bobfab.com all the details are there...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16CRXT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn, so thats what a real one looks like. how much was that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Would like to know, also!!!!!!!!!!!
Would like to know, also!!!!!!!!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like you're running damn near 0 degrees of camber, especially in the rear. Dial in some negative maybe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
im like -1.1* in the front and -.7* in the back.
i was thinking about goin further in, but i dont wanna wear out the tires too quick. they spin enough like this.
im like -1.1* in the front and -.7* in the back.
i was thinking about goin further in, but i dont wanna wear out the tires too quick. they spin enough like this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKGONZALEZ3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think they go for $250</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the fender rolling tool for rent if you need it. I once had a set of k1's that were +25, they didnt fit right on my ef and i eventually got rid of them.
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does 38mm sound right?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone else that needs/wants to use it, check out my page: http://www.bobfab.com all the details are there...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i might do that.
do u have any before/after pics of what it will do? will that solve my problem?
</TD></TR></TABLE>does 38mm sound right?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone else that needs/wants to use it, check out my page: http://www.bobfab.com all the details are there...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i might do that.
do u have any before/after pics of what it will do? will that solve my problem?
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does 38mm sound right?
i might do that.
do u have any before/after pics of what it will do? will that solve my problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>
What rear trailing arms do you have? +38mm should clear on an ef, unless maybe you have beefy wide tires, or have DA trailing arms (they bump the rear out a couple mm)
No real before or after pics, it bascially will fix rubbing issues if you are rubbing on the lip and just need a couple mm of clearance. It can be used to really pull fenders but i havent tried or experimented with it in such depth.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKGONZALEZ3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think they go for $250</TD></TR></TABLE> It was 275$ + shipping when i bought it from eastwood. It wasnt cheap, but neither are tires or paint.
does 38mm sound right?
i might do that.
do u have any before/after pics of what it will do? will that solve my problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>
What rear trailing arms do you have? +38mm should clear on an ef, unless maybe you have beefy wide tires, or have DA trailing arms (they bump the rear out a couple mm)
No real before or after pics, it bascially will fix rubbing issues if you are rubbing on the lip and just need a couple mm of clearance. It can be used to really pull fenders but i havent tried or experimented with it in such depth.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKGONZALEZ3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think they go for $250</TD></TR></TABLE> It was 275$ + shipping when i bought it from eastwood. It wasnt cheap, but neither are tires or paint.
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what? alrite so they go for $225 you can probly find it cheper somewhere else but this is the site that i seen them at.
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump...ODUCT
</TD></TR></TABLE>what? alrite so they go for $225 you can probly find it cheper somewhere else but this is the site that i seen them at.
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump...ODUCT
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What rear trailing arms do you have? +38mm should clear on an ef, unless maybe you have beefy wide tires, or have DA trailing arms (they bump the rear out a couple mm)
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Use civic upper and lower control arms if you use DA trailing arms. It allows for more tire clearance.
What rear trailing arms do you have? +38mm should clear on an ef, unless maybe you have beefy wide tires, or have DA trailing arms (they bump the rear out a couple mm)
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Use civic upper and lower control arms if you use DA trailing arms. It allows for more tire clearance.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16CRXT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-1* isnt ****. I sit at -3* pretty much all around. Only slight abnormal wear, and no faster than with a "normal" camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's all in the toe.
It's all in the toe.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronicsinners »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What rear trailing arms do you have? +38mm should clear on an ef, unless maybe you have beefy wide tires, or have DA trailing arms (they bump the rear out a couple mm)
No real before or after pics, it bascially will fix rubbing issues if you are rubbing on the lip and just need a couple mm of clearance. It can be used to really pull fenders but i havent tried or experimented with it in such depth.
It was 275$ + shipping when i bought it from eastwood. It wasnt cheap, but neither are tires or paint.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have DA trailing arms. 195/50-15. thats on the narrow side of 15" tires.
i'd like to pull the fenders out a bit...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Use civic upper and lower control arms if you use DA trailing arms. It allows for more tire clearance. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a crx camber kit, front and rear, and stock lower control arms front and rear.
Am i still losing the "couple mm" of clearance for my tires?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16CRXT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-1* isnt ****. I sit at -3* pretty much all around. Only slight abnormal wear, and no faster than with a "normal" camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>
right. Well i didnt want crazy negative camber on my new tires. i need as much of the tire on the ground as possible when accelerating.
What rear trailing arms do you have? +38mm should clear on an ef, unless maybe you have beefy wide tires, or have DA trailing arms (they bump the rear out a couple mm)
No real before or after pics, it bascially will fix rubbing issues if you are rubbing on the lip and just need a couple mm of clearance. It can be used to really pull fenders but i havent tried or experimented with it in such depth.
It was 275$ + shipping when i bought it from eastwood. It wasnt cheap, but neither are tires or paint.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have DA trailing arms. 195/50-15. thats on the narrow side of 15" tires.
i'd like to pull the fenders out a bit...
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Use civic upper and lower control arms if you use DA trailing arms. It allows for more tire clearance. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a crx camber kit, front and rear, and stock lower control arms front and rear.
Am i still losing the "couple mm" of clearance for my tires?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16CRXT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-1* isnt ****. I sit at -3* pretty much all around. Only slight abnormal wear, and no faster than with a "normal" camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>
right. Well i didnt want crazy negative camber on my new tires. i need as much of the tire on the ground as possible when accelerating.
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right. Well i didnt want crazy negative camber on my new tires. i need as much of the tire on the ground as possible when accelerating.</TD></TR></TABLE>
-3 all around is a good track set-up (not like it matters for you) and it'll give you some "tuck" so those Kosei's don't look so silly. Something is up if they stick out that far as Ryan's Kosei's and my fathers (both +38) fit great. -3 of camber is a negligible argument if you're want to keep as much contact patch on the ground. The car isn't a full-on drag car so why the fuss?
right. Well i didnt want crazy negative camber on my new tires. i need as much of the tire on the ground as possible when accelerating.</TD></TR></TABLE>
-3 all around is a good track set-up (not like it matters for you) and it'll give you some "tuck" so those Kosei's don't look so silly. Something is up if they stick out that far as Ryan's Kosei's and my fathers (both +38) fit great. -3 of camber is a negligible argument if you're want to keep as much contact patch on the ground. The car isn't a full-on drag car so why the fuss?
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-3 all around is a good track set-up (not like it matters for you) and it'll give you some "tuck" so those Kosei's don't look so silly. Something is up if they stick out that far as Ryan's Kosei's and my fathers (both +38) fit great. -3 of camber is a negligible argument if you're want to keep as much contact patch on the ground. The car isn't a full-on drag car so why the fuss? </TD></TR></TABLE>
because it spins <U>through</U> third before i aligned the camber. maybe i'll change it out to -2.5* camber. Just seems kinda weird to me. If i got a set of coilovers and dropped it any lower, the car would literally not move. the fenders would rest on the tires.
-3 all around is a good track set-up (not like it matters for you) and it'll give you some "tuck" so those Kosei's don't look so silly. Something is up if they stick out that far as Ryan's Kosei's and my fathers (both +38) fit great. -3 of camber is a negligible argument if you're want to keep as much contact patch on the ground. The car isn't a full-on drag car so why the fuss? </TD></TR></TABLE>
because it spins <U>through</U> third before i aligned the camber. maybe i'll change it out to -2.5* camber. Just seems kinda weird to me. If i got a set of coilovers and dropped it any lower, the car would literally not move. the fenders would rest on the tires.
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Lol dude, your HT-name is epically awesome. Made me laugh at 5 AM haha
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thanks you got a PM
Lol dude, your HT-name is epically awesome. Made me laugh at 5 AM haha
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g2_teg_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
because it spins <U>through</U> third before i aligned the camber. maybe i'll change it out to -2.5* camber. Just seems kinda weird to me. If i got a set of coilovers and dropped it any lower, the car would literally not move. the fenders would rest on the tires.
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I can see how you think camber would affect hooking up that much, but let's remember you have a K20 in your rex. Do you run an LSD? If not, there's your other problem.
Any way you look at it, you'll need to run some bit of camber to tuck those kosei's in there. Good luck.
because it spins <U>through</U> third before i aligned the camber. maybe i'll change it out to -2.5* camber. Just seems kinda weird to me. If i got a set of coilovers and dropped it any lower, the car would literally not move. the fenders would rest on the tires.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I can see how you think camber would affect hooking up that much, but let's remember you have a K20 in your rex. Do you run an LSD? If not, there's your other problem.
Any way you look at it, you'll need to run some bit of camber to tuck those kosei's in there. Good luck.


