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Old May 9, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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so if someone didnt buy that blue da up there im picking it up tomorrow. i went and looked at it today and it looks clean. needs some tlc but with all the parts on my car it will be nice. still need those plugs tho for my swap.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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still not driving my car. it just will NOT start.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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still not driving my car. it just will NOT start.
that sux. any idea why?
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Old May 9, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by be18see1
still not driving my car. it just will NOT start.
Keep at it. It'll be something dumb but just keep at it.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by be18see1
still not driving my car. it just will NOT start.
Originally Posted by Bond
Keep at it. It'll be something dumb but just keep at it.
hahah Always is.

What exactly is the issue? Spark, fuel?
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Old May 9, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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anyone know if DA front shocks and EF and CRX shocks are the same, i got a box of KYB AGX brand new fronts and was gonna use them. but guess they dont fit newer civics(silly me thought all that was the same, guess not).

if anyone might be interested in them i ll let them go for 175 plus shipping.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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he said on fb that he has fuel and spark and timing is correct, just wont start up. hes doing a compression test on it tomorrow
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Old May 9, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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he said on fb that he has fuel and spark and timing is correct, just wont start up. hes doing a compression test on it tomorrow
also something, is the fuel pressure correct..? i had start up issues because honda's are very picky about the fuel pressure. My gsr wouldnt start when i cleaned my injectors because i couldnt let the cleaner return to the tank, and the fpr had to be bumped to max pressure to get it to start.

just saying maybe its fuel pressure.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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idk, thats something sam would have to comment ont since its his car/problem. i was just sayin what i saw him say on face book a lil bit ago.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 03:43 AM
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Fuel pressure is right around 40-45 psi. The car is in time, it has spark, and it has fuel. The plugs get fouled pretty damn quick if I try to crank it. Each injector has 12v on the power side and there is continuity between each one and the ecu on the ground side. I am throwing a code for vtec pressure solenoid, which is definitely unrelated. I am on the edge of having someone come out and help me look at it. I am also pissed.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 04:11 AM
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So what does it do when you crank it over?
Seems like compression and leak down may yield answers.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 06:03 AM
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It tries to start. It jumps to maybe 1900 rpm then dies then 1900 then dies.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Ok so it starts fine, just won't idle?
What if you hold the gas?
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Old May 10, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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Forgot I had these on my phone, went for a run at Jones Beach one morning and parked next to this in the parking lot.

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LOVE those old 911's
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Old May 10, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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Ok so it starts fine, just won't idle?
What if you hold the gas?
No it kicks but doesn't run, if that makes sense. It hits on one or two cylinder but doesn't actually run without the starter spinning it. I'm compression testing it tonight. There are soooo many unknown variables that I just don't know what to do next. If it passes the compression test I will feel a lot better about it. Even with bad compression in one or two cylinders I would think it would run albeit not very well.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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be18see1, best of luck to you man. I was going to suggest what Matt as well, holding the gas down after start-up to keep the idle from dying but it seems not to be that. Let us know how things are after the compression test.

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Forgot I had these on my phone, went for a run at Jones Beach one morning and parked next to this in the parking lot.
LOVE those old 911's
I love the full OEM optional kit on your car! Looks great
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Old May 10, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by be18see1
No it kicks but doesn't run, if that makes sense. It hits on one or two cylinder but doesn't actually run without the starter spinning it. I'm compression testing it tonight. There are soooo many unknown variables that I just don't know what to do next. If it passes the compression test I will feel a lot better about it. Even with bad compression in one or two cylinders I would think it would run albeit not very well.
Ok so no combustion? So it just cranks like it isn't getting fuel or spark (Although you said it's getting both).
Have you pulled each injector to ensure they are dispensing fuel?
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Old May 10, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OldskoojdmDA9
I love the full OEM optional kit on your car! Looks great
Thanks! But I just have the front and sides haven't come across the rear yet.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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No there is some combustion. Like I said, it jumps to 1900 rpm. I actually had it running for like 10 seconds on what sounded like one cylinder yesterday or the day before.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Ok so no combustion? So it just cranks like it isn't getting fuel or spark (Although you said it's getting both).
Have you pulled each injector to ensure they are dispensing fuel?
No, there is some combustion. Like I said, it jumps to 1900 rpm or so when it fires. I actually had it running for like 10 seconds on what sounded like one cylinder yesterday or the day before.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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No, there is some combustion. Like I said, it jumps to 1900 rpm or so when it fires. I actually had it running for like 10 seconds on what sounded like one cylinder yesterday or the day before.
AH ok, your description is confusing.
Ok, so did it sound like a helicopter? Maybe Head gasket, head studs not torqued down correctly on in sequence, Injector(s) are dead or not working.
Have you pulled them out and physically seen fuel coming out of them?
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Old May 10, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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compression test was 150 psi across the board.
wouldn't even fire when we sprayed starter fluid in and then after a bit started doing the same old thing.
checked continuity between tdc and ckp sensors and the ecu and it's fine.
same with injectors.
checked spark on valve cover studs and it has a nice white spark.
WTF? even with no fuel it would run for a sec on ether.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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@ be18see1 Could it be the fuel pump!? I'm just shooting in the dark here. (oooops I guess not, now that I see that even with no fuel it wouldn't start for you on ether!? or did you mean either?)
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Old May 10, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by be18see1
compression test was 150 psi across the board.
wouldn't even fire when we sprayed starter fluid in and then after a bit started doing the same old thing.
checked continuity between tdc and ckp sensors and the ecu and it's fine.
same with injectors.
checked spark on valve cover studs and it has a nice white spark.
WTF? even with no fuel it would run for a sec on ether.
i would check fuel pressure like i stated, and make sure to use a spark tester or make a spark tester when you test spark(it should be able to jump 150 thousandths((the gap on a spark tester)), if it does the spark is strong. You might seem to have a healthy spark, but thats the rule out everything test for spark.

Its either spark or fuel, with both, no matter what it will at least try and run, might not run well or might want to try and die on you but the ecu should try and correct for what ever reason it assumes is wrong ie. fail safe mode.

also important sensors to check, MAP, TP, IAT. make sure the signal is correct and to spec.


other than those man, i cant really think of why you would be having this problem with good compression.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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IF you need to make a spark tester cut the negative end of a spark plug off and wrap a wire to the case(threaded portion) wire should be grounded. IF it can jump the gap to the threaded portion, then everything spark wise is healthy by industry standards.
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