looks like its got a t4 hotside.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KeyserSoze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Anyone have an idea which model this is?? hx30 maybe? would be a good one camma jamma snail if so... </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahha got me laughin on that one...thats very very far from a hx30...prob upwards of a 60-80 series....the hx30 is tiny...t3 inlet un-divided....looks really similar to a t3/t4...and has a 2.5" inlet

 

The only reason I thought that was cause the comp side looked a bit small (actually a bit shallow). With no reference for size in the picture it looked like the comp side was smaller than an hx35 or hy35.

ps - im prolly just gettin old and my eyes suck...

Edit: Actually I pasted the wrong link, i'll look for the other one.

Here's the one I was thinking of.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

Don't tease me about this one to!!!


Modified by KeyserSoze at 9:40 PM 5/6/2006

 

now that looks a lot more like an hx30 for you

 

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Hahaha, c, im not as dumb as you thought. Just half as dumb.

 

Just got my Holset turbo in and me sooooooooooooo happy. Its an WH1C, But the kewl thing is that it has an aftermarket 8 blade compressor wheel, hehehe. I got it off of egay for $172.00 shipped not bad. There is no shaft play and it spins nice. Slowly I am building my turbo kit for my 240sx KA24DE-"T". can't wait to run against the few SR's in my town and waste them, hahahaha.. I'll see if I can post some pics. It just needs cleaned.



Modified by Tomkun-s13 at 12:45 PM 5/9/2006

 

A random image whoring...

 

lets see the whole thing^

hey speed phreak, can you tell me what thread size i need for the oil feed adapter to -3an on a hx35, and if you also knew the thread size and pitch of the bolts for the return flange that would be pimp. thanks

 

Drove my car to school today, I will sort out my boost leaks this weeked and report some spool times w/ an hy35 on a 1.8 vtec.

But ATM I have 10lb by 4k in second gear.

 

The thread on the oil inlet is some weird 12mmx1.25 or 1.5...I couldn't find the proper fitting for it. I can't remember what I used exacty but I know it involved some JBweld.... to make it seal. Yea it's ghetto.

On the return I just re-used the bolts and drain adapter from my DRAG III setup.

 

alright, i'll just take the turbo in to a place and try out a few different ones.

 

The oil inlet is a standard metric fitting. You just need the right pitch and some teflon tape. I can go look through the empty boxes of fittings in my garage and see if the thead pitch and size is listed.

 

I also need to know the inlet size/thread pitch. thanks

 

one my hy35 i hava a 12mm x 1.5 , according to fast turbo some holset turbos have a 12mm x 1. give fast turbo a call and see what size you need, they should have it in stock, thats where i got mine.

 

Hey guys, I'm new to this holset craze, but I just bought one and am in the middle of putting together my motor. Here's my setup:

---MOTOR---
-OBD1 gsr motor in an eg
-Darton sleeved mid deck kit
-Arias 9:1 compression forged pistons...stock bore 81mm
-Eagle H Beam Rods
-ARP main and head studs, ACL bearings
-SCE 3mm copper headgasket
-stock head; just cam gears, and blox intake manifold

---TURBO STUFF---
-Full Race manifold
-Holset HX35/40W
-and everything else to go along with it; BOV, intercooler, wastegate, etc...
-Neptune

Sorry for the long post, but I was just wondering if anyone could tell me if I'm gonna be able to spool that size turbo with no head work done. My buddy owns a DSM shop and he said theres no way I could spool it with my 1.8, just wanted some input, see if I need to downgrade. Thanks for the help.

 

It'll spool...a touch late but it'll get there. On a 2.0L LS I was getting spool times of 4500rpm-ish at 12psi of boost. Cams/headwork can change this. On a 1.8L I'd think somewhere in the 5k range for any healthy amount of boost. The HX35/40 combo will prolly spool a *tad* bit slower than a straight HX35 due to the heavier/bigger cimpressor wheel...

Cheers

 

heh i see FULL boost on my lil 1857cc motor at 4200rpms at the latest 3" open dp....it will spool trust me....if your that concerned get a decent split scroll mani and a garuntee youll be at 12+psi by 3800rpm....

the only thing you have workin against you is that huge HG w/ such low cr pistons already.....and im hoping thats a 40 compressor & 35 turbine...

 

That don't sound too bad then I'm tuning for about 18 psi, so if I spool under 5 I'll be pretty happy. Yeah I may just have a buddy of mine weld in a divider onto my mani, but then would I have to run dual wastegates, see I'm just a little confused about that. Yeah but that headgasket should lower my compression just enough so that I can run such high boost you know. I also heard that if you don't get a split scroll mani of some sort, it will be blowing out the center of the gasket, and could cause a boost leak, but I'm not sure, I'll keep everyone posted as it comes along.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9hatchman4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That don't sound too bad then I'm tuning for about 18 psi, so if I spool under 5 I'll be pretty happy. Yeah I may just have a buddy of mine weld in a divider onto my mani, but then would I have to run dual wastegates, see I'm just a little confused about that. Yeah but that headgasket should lower my compression just enough so that I can run such high boost you know. I also heard that if you don't get a split scroll mani of some sort, it will be blowing out the center of the gasket, and could cause a boost leak, but I'm not sure, I'll keep everyone posted as it comes along.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a divider will work fin the the collector as long as your pairing 1&4 and 2&3 cylinders together.....the hg + the pistons are going to make a really low c/r....which isn't going to help the spool at all....my motor is about a 9.0:1 cr....wheras a rough estimate of yours will be 8.5 or less....

and you dont have to run a split scroll mani either...whoever told you that is full of crap, because #1 it wouldnt be a boost leak...but an exhuast leak....and as long as you t3 mani outlet flange isnt warped...youll be fine...i just grinded down my center divider in the turbo to help flow...and not have it crashin into a 1/4" divider....

the key component in making your setup work is going to be a very very free flowin exh....3" all the way out....but even when i run a tiny 2.38" stock systen...i still see full boost by about 52-5500....but the 3" open dp is a night and day difference....

and worst case senario...if you wanna choke down the power a lil bit yu could always run a hy 9cm housing...which pretty much would light up a lot eariler!

 

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hx30 is tiny...t3 inlet un-divided....looks really similar to a t3/t4...and has a 2.5" inlet</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nah, looks more like a .60 trim T3:





Larger diameter compressor and turbine wheels, of course, but the physical dimensions and scrolls are more OEM T3. Stick one next to a dainty .50 T04E and the compressor looks a little small.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9hatchman4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I also heard that if you don't get a split scroll mani of some sort, it will be blowing out the center of the gasket, and could cause a boost leak, but I'm not sure, I'll keep everyone posted as it comes along.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I doubt you'll blow out the gasket, but if you're not going to run the divided manifold then It would be in your best interest to cut down the center divider in your housing a tad....or very least smooth it out so that it doesn't create turbulance. Be warned tho, if you decide to cut down your divider you're going to effectively increase a/r of the turbine housing. I cut mine down and port-matched it a tad, so thats prolly why it spools a tad later. Thats ok though, thats what a 9k redline is for right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed PHreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It'll spool...a touch late but it'll get there. On a 2.0L LS I was getting spool times of 4500rpm-ish at 12psi of boost. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's still better than T67/T3 with stage 5 turbine and .63/.84 housing, or T67/P-trim T4 with .58 AR housing. HX40/HX35 should be comparable.

You pretty much have to run those exhaust sizes to reliably make the power those turbos are capable of. You can compress the exhaust momentarily and get away with it and still make good power, for example across a small AR turbine housing but with a large turbine wheel, or across the stock sub-3" outlet as long as you expand it to a larger diameter pretty quick.

 

Hey any way you could post up some pics of your holset after you grinded down the divider? Just want to get an idea if I'm going to do it. Yeah I meant exhaust leak, just wasn't thinking, it's kinda early, lol. Also, I was gonna run just a straight 3" downpipe out the front of my bumper, that's how I have it on my current setup and it works pretty good, sounds cool too haha. Yeah my buddy has a HY35/40w on his VR4, and he was wanting to trade me for my HX35/40w, but I'm not sure yet. I think that the smaller housing (9cm) would choke it out on the top end pretty good wouldn't you think? What do you guys think the differences in spool time would be between the HY and the HX?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nah, looks more like a .60 trim T3:
</TD></TR></TABLE>

true dat....ive only seen pics of it...never in comprision to a t3 setup....that thing is dinky...my org plans were a t3 super 60....heh boy am i glad i up'd to a hx35...and made money on the deal for me....

to grind down the center divider...i just took an air die grinder...and went to town....and in retrospect it is increasing the a/r of the housing...so just take the divider from this

[_] to this V these are upsidedown

bascially the same thing an intake port split would look like after pnp

 

Anyone have data on the HE351W? Looks like HY comp housing style... and vband internal gate... but I can't seem to find size data like I've seen for the HY and HX....

edit: also seeing it referred to as the HE351CW. Its off an 06 Cummins.


Modified by splitime at 9:04 PM 5/17/2006