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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 05:43 AM
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hmmm mine had a m16x1.5 not m12x1.5 maybe different holsets had different thread pitchs? i have an 8-blade hx35. anyways i couldnt find anything that was m16x1.5 to 3an so i had to use two fittings(first setup was 3 fittings as i had to use a -4an to -4an 90* fitting for fitment)

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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 05:56 AM
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i have yet to se a hx35 that didnt have 12x1.50 unless you didnt take the factory fitting off yet
does yours have that nut looking deal on top or no?
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 06:24 AM
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yes it has a factory fitting on it

when i got the turbo i did tons of searching to find info on it...i remembering it being a pain in the *** to track down info. found most of my answers on dsm websites....for some reason this thread never popped up in my searches
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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take that nut deal off and its a 12x1.50
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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I'm running a -4 with a restrictor to my hx35 and I have no problems with oiling at all. Haven't blown oil and I have about a year on it now. And I'm running 25+ lbs if boost on it daily.
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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So. A lot of people have said that it you want to remove the silencer on the compressor intake of an he351ve then just grind down those 3 pins and it pops off.

Those people are wrong




On the VE (and possibly the he351 as well the pins hold the whole inner portion of the housing in place. Although this makes my idea for pre-turbo meth injectoon
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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I have a really cool and simple idea to control the vgt system on an he351ve without using a motor.

I'll post pics and a video here soon.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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something like this?


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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Nope, a system like that doesn't offer precise control

My idea uses a dual port internal wastegate assembly as well as a very small liner actuator to open the housing/vane under cruising conditions, when throttle or load reaches a preset limit the ecu retracts the actuator, shutting the vanes (with the help of a return spring) and then through the use of a boost controller, the wastegate actuator opens the at a predetermined rate.

Actually if I can refine the system enough I could just use the return spring and the electric actuator to have precise control
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Finally got the video made, uploading now
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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He351ve blowing into a sc14 supercharger all mounted on my D16 vitara setup.

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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Yay video, its in 1080p and I tried to keep it short, kept getting phone calls so it took 8 takes, no editing so be kind lol
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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says video is private
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 10:43 PM
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Sorry fixed.

I think the idea is solid, especially after some real world testing.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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Cool man. Yeah I think your controller for the actuator could handle it all really as you said. The WG actuator is just going to be reading map basically, which is one of the things your controller would be handling as well I am assuming... either AEM or separate pwm out microcontroller.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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The AEM has a pwm for the IAC and I think one other user designated,

I'm not using an iacv so I might be able to do it with that output, not sure until I start looking at the outputs

I wanted to use the internal actuator at first just to verify the system works, then I'll start dialing back the wastegate and see what the electric actuator can do.

I have to run down to the BMW bike place my friend works at and get the diagram for the actuator and see what kind of signal the ecu sends it.

Because if I can remove the OEM geared piece and replace it with something that can capture the end of the actuator (it has a few grooves) then even a return spring won't be needed, unless back pressure gets high enough to move the vane, then I'll need a helper spring of some sort

I think I'm onto a solid idea, just need to test it all. Still cleaning up from moving since the movers just threw **** everywhere

Plus with the ecu looking at turbine shaft speed, exhaust manifold back pressure and engine load/rpm I think I can map out a solid control system that can be adaptable to any boost levels.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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sounds like a very well thought out plan, i see no reason why it wouldnt work, hopefully it works as planned then you could make kits and sell them haaha
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 02:45 AM
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I might be able to make the kits, but tuning would be up to the end user.. and lije I said first in the video, I don't think a chipped p2w could handle it, due to the varying nature of the required inputs (especially the hall effect shaft speed sensor) would require a standalone ECU

And it wouldn't be cheap, the actuator from BMW is 150 by itself. Maybe I can find another cheaper one but I don't know if it would be compact as the BMW ones.

I'm thinking about making the mounting bracket cover the whole area where the controller was, top to bottom and I'll incorporate a crossover tube to allow coolant to flow through the chra, or offer an option for just a flat plate if you don't want to run coolant

I could do the plate in a variety of colors and finishes, anodized or powder coated.

Might be laser/plasma/water cut material, maybe offer an aluminum mounting plate or a slightly cheaper mild steel plate.

It's all still in the bench testing phases though, I need to get a plug in engine simulator for my AEM ems so I can see if it all works (donations accepted :p)
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HTurbo845
hey. i got this h1e holset brand new from a buddy. measured 56/76 compressor wheel and around 76mm exhaust. cant find another like it on the internet, just looking for more info, or experience from someone using it.





Did you get anymore info on this? I maybe picking up one up as well! And where would be a good place to shop t3 exhaust housings with Vband?
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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EBay is about it
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
EBay is about it
Yea i figured that..... Im picking up a brand new one for a steal..... but im nowhere near maxing out my setup at the moment, i just figured that if he takes what im gonna give then i might as well jump on it lol
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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http://www.myfortune3cart.com/htt/

they do holset stuff
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
YouTube

Yay video, its in 1080p and I tried to keep it short, kept getting phone calls so it took 8 takes, no editing so be kind lol
The concept is very nice.I still didnt undertand how the "partial opening" will happen.That electric mechanism that will open close, can be controled to partialy push?The idea is definetly promising.
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 92cxyd
He351ve blowing into a sc14 supercharger all mounted on my D16 vitara setup.

I like the twincharge setup.Did you test it ?
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