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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 01:49 PM
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Car is going to be just plain nasty! Good to see you getting seat time again, it’s nerve racking getting slowed down from those speeds
Yeah it’s nice to get back out and get it figured out. Slowing down is so much nicer with the parachute once you get one on your car you will love it.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 05:51 PM
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I currently run a -4 oil feed and no oil restrictor so upon decel it puffs like a chimney LOL, I think I’m going to add one in the near future.
is the turboSuppose to have one? I’m wondering cause they say you don’t have to run one on a Borg so wondering if it will do the same thing your did I. That video. That thing was moving out I’m sure it will be stupid fast one you have everything worked out
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 07:27 PM
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is the turboSuppose to have one? I’m wondering cause they say you don’t have to run one on a Borg so wondering if it will do the same thing your did I. That video. That thing was moving out I’m sure it will be stupid fast one you have everything worked out
it should but my buddy wasn’t using one with this turbo. So with the amount of oil pumping threw I may throw one on. I’m planning on using this turbo a little more and will be most likely moving on to a precision 7285.
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The car looks and drives amazing. It looks like you've put lots of effort, work, money, testing, and time into it.
What I'm wondering: is this in the SPFWD classification, or just a car built for fun. It almost looks like the Outlaw class of cars. Here's why: I thought SPFWD had to have exhaust exit the rear of the vehicle, not out the hood. And, the turbo can't have the compressor face outside the front bumper. But Outlaw cars are allowed to have that (as far as I know).
I like the exhaust manifold you have- it looks like it says Full-Race (brand) and seems awesome to me. I'm not sure if those are allowed in SPFWD, with the exhaust exiting the hood, but maybe they are. If so, that would be cool!

On the video, it looks like your first gear is giving you a long time to put down power, which is good. But then, to switch to 2nd gear takes a little bit of time; then, 2nd gear seems short, like 2nd gear is hardly used. I don't know if having a longer 2nd gear would help, perhaps. Third gear seems good. Fourth gear seems very fast and powerful. It's going fast in 4th gear, but if you can hold onto the steering wheel until after the 1/4 mile trap, then switch your arm to pull the parachute, it might help….
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:20 AM
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The car looks and drives amazing. It looks like you've put lots of effort, work, money, testing, and time into it.
What I'm wondering: is this in the SPFWD classification, or just a car built for fun. It almost looks like the Outlaw class of cars. Here's why: I thought SPFWD had to have exhaust exit the rear of the vehicle, not out the hood. And, the turbo can't have the compressor face outside the front bumper. But Outlaw cars are allowed to have that (as far as I know).
I like the exhaust manifold you have- it looks like it says Full-Race (brand) and seems awesome to me. I'm not sure if those are allowed in SPFWD, with the exhaust exiting the hood, but maybe they are. If so, that would be cool!

On the video, it looks like your first gear is giving you a long time to put down power, which is good. But then, to switch to 2nd gear takes a little bit of time; then, 2nd gear seems short, like 2nd gear is hardly used. I don't know if having a longer 2nd gear would help, perhaps. Third gear seems good. Fourth gear seems very fast and powerful. It's going fast in 4th gear, but if you can hold onto the steering wheel until after the 1/4 mile trap, then switch your arm to pull the parachute, it might help….
The car is built for front wheel drive (FWD) the only class that requires an exhaust out the back is Forced Induction Sport (FIS) and last time I checked I don't think that rule even exits anymore, I think as long as you have a downpipe you are good.

You can run a forward facing manifold in any class but turbo size is what puts you in different classes. FWD you have to have a 72mm turbo size limit and a 25 inch tall slick max. I run a 72mm and a 24.5mm slick so I am good to go. Outlaw class you can run lexan windows, I think you can cut metal, run a 26 slick and above and bigger turbo than 72mm, I think the limit is 76mm for that class.

Now as far as gears go I am running a PPG dog box not much I can do as far as gearing unless I change the final drive which there is no need unless I plan on running a taller slick.

1st gear drags out a little while as it hooks enough to shift at 11k RPMS. When you think about it as I launch in first at 7k at about 6psi it takes a bit of time to bring up the RPM to 11k and I shift. Once I shift from 1st to second my RPMS only drop down to about 8500 to 9000 rpms and second gear is 30 psi so the time it takes to go from 9k to 11k is super quick. Shifting into third is the same because 3rd now I am at about 35 to 38 psi and 4th I am at about 40 to 44psi.

As far as shifting I keep my left hand on the steering wheel at all times, my right hand is on the shifter at all times, once I shift to 4th I get my shifting hand ready to deploy the chute and once I do that I put the car in neutral and keep the foot on the clutch until I slow down to a stop.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:24 AM
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Car is fast! Left me at the 60ft like I was stopped. Bad A$$
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:31 AM
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Car is fast! Left me at the 60ft like I was stopped. Bad A$$
Oh man, prep was so damn bad. When I first went up, there was literally a trail of dirt to the starting line. Typically I 60ft at about 1.5, my first pass was like 1.76 and my second pass was 1.82 LOL.

By the way what happened on that pass?

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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:45 AM
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Not really sure. I ice skated down the track. I think too much boost. I tried turning it up. Some passes the car likes to pull right.It was pulling really hard to the right. My second pass was nice and straight until the car died. I data logged that pass. I probably have a boost leak.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:59 AM
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Not really sure. I ice skated down the track. I think too much boost. I tried turning it up. Some passes the car likes to pull right.It was pulling really hard to the right. My second pass was nice and straight until the car died. I data logged that pass. I probably have a boost leak.
Yeah, I was getting a little loose myself, not sure if the track was getting condensation on it or what but it is sure not as good as when I do events.

What was the best pass you were able to put down?
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 07:08 AM
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Yeah, I was getting a little loose myself, not sure if the track was getting condensation on it or what but it is sure not as good as when I do events.

What was the best pass you were able to put down?
My best so far is 11.26 @ 125. In tucson I bagged 130mph with about the same et. Friday I was trying to bag my 10
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 07:36 AM
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You still using the spherical LCA, compliance, etc/ strange coilovers/makk bracing setup? And was traction control used within Motec?
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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My best so far is 11.26 @ 125. In tucson I bagged 130mph with about the same et. Friday I was trying to bag my 10
Very nice!

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You still using the spherical LCA, compliance, etc/ strange coilovers/makk bracing setup? And was traction control used within Motec?
Yes to all and I am having a bit of an issue with my rear wheel sensor though. The bracket on the rear trailing arm is a bit weak and flimsy and I think when I launch it vibrates a little bit throwing it off. I am going to try and maybe add like a little mini brace on it and see if that helps.

Oh and I also had messed with the front and rear shocks with the compression and rebound. Normally I have them all set in the middle but this time I had the rears I think almost all the way setup for compression. So I think I am going to move it all back to the middle adjustments and see.
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When Joe went low 8's was he monitoring shock travel, Tire temp, clutch pressure, ultrasonic ride height like some of the big names?
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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When Joe went low 8's was he monitoring shock travel, Tire temp, clutch pressure, ultrasonic ride height like some of the big names?
Joe monitors tons of different things and has pretty much the best stuff you can get. He also has a bunch of testing on his setup and has things dialed in big time.

His rear Strange Shocks were custom valved off his specs and I think he went with the full drag Penske's up front which are like 3 grand for the pair LOL.

Joe's car is no joke, when you think about it he ran a 8.31 on a 6785 here in Phoenix AZ. When we run we are running in 90 degree heat at 3500 foot elevation with a track that usually has a nice top coat of desert dust LOL.

I can only imagine what he could do at like a WCF track.
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Joe monitors tons of different things and has pretty much the best stuff you can get. He also has a bunch of testing on his setup and has things dialed in big time.
So eventually that's where you will be
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Joe monitors tons of different things and has pretty much the best stuff you can get. He also has a bunch of testing on his setup and has things dialed in big time.

His rear Strange Shocks were custom valved off his specs and I think he went with the full drag Penske's up front which are like 3 grand for the pair LOL.

Joe's car is no joke, when you think about it he ran a 8.31 on a 6785 here in Phoenix AZ. When we run we are running in 90 degree heat at 3500 foot elevation with a track that usually has a nice top coat of desert dust LOL.

I can only imagine what he could do at like a WCF track.
Yeah, that's getting it done in the desert . More than likely his short track is dialed in beyond belief and he knows exactly what to look for out the traction components/sensors to make it 60' even on a dirt road.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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So eventually that's where you will be
When I was talking with Joe on Saturday he thinks my car will do 8.5's and faster but not with the Comp Turbo. He thinks the 7285 will get me there but I am going to do some more testing with the Comp. He turned some things up for the next time I test, so we will see.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Yeah, that's getting it done in the desert . More than likely his short track is dialed in beyond belief and he knows exactly what to look for out the traction components/sensors to make it 60' even on a dirt road.
He averages 1.45 60ft's, so yeah he has it dialed in pretty good LOL.
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When I was talking with Joe on Saturday he thinks my car will do 8.5's and faster but not with the Comp Turbo. He thinks the 7285 will get me there but I am going to do some more testing with the Comp. He turned some things up for the next time I test, so we will see.
I'm thinking he is suggesting the bigger turbo so you can put down more in 3rd-4th and make up your time that way instead of spending ridiculous time and money dialing in the short track (ie. 1.45 60' and probably 5.3-5.5 1/8th')

Ultimately, it will end up being cheaper to focus on the big end honestly. Which is why is suggestion makes perfect sense.
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I love how the camera can’t keep up on the launch , even after it’s struggling to keep up.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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I'm thinking he is suggesting the bigger turbo so you can put down more in 3rd-4th and make up your time that way instead of spending ridiculous time and money dialing in the short track (ie. 1.45 60' and probably 5.3-5.5 1/8th')

Ultimately, it will end up being cheaper to focus on the big end honestly. Which is why is suggestion makes perfect sense.
Yeah, I mean 1.4's is going to be super hard for me to get but if I can continue with my usual 1.5's that will be good enough. The 7285 is going to be hands down better than the Comp, it will make more power and spool much faster.

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I love how the camera can’t keep up on the launch , even after it’s struggling to keep up.
I know its crazy! I've also never had a onboard shot of how I drive so that was pretty cool to watch.
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Joe monitors tons of different things and has pretty much the best stuff you can get. He also has a bunch of testing on his setup and has things dialed in big time.

His rear Strange Shocks were custom valved off his specs and I think he went with the full drag Penske's up front which are like 3 grand for the pair LOL.

Joe's car is no joke, when you think about it he ran a 8.31 on a 6785 here in Phoenix AZ. When we run we are running in 90 degree heat at 3500 foot elevation with a track that usually has a nice top coat of desert dust LOL.

I can only imagine what he could do at like a WCF track.
Does he still have the car? I haven’t seen it since the wall incident. Instead some boring Tesla he brought. Lol
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 11:08 AM
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Does he still have the car? I haven’t seen it since the wall incident. Instead some boring Tesla he brought. Lol
LOL, yeah he has it, the car got fixed and re-painted. He is doing a few modifications to it right now and hasn't had time to work on it so it's been on the back burner.

He just needs to put it back together and get back out.
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LOL, yeah he has it, the car got fixed and re-painted. He is doing a few modifications to it right now and hasn't had time to work on it so it's been on the back burner.

He just needs to put it back together and get back out.
Awesome, I have been looking for your car and his at the events. I am looking forward to seeing yours at the chandler ifo. I would love to see the 1.5 launch with the camera on the launch . If the camera can keep up with it. Great job sir!
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 11:50 AM
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Awesome, I have been looking for your car and his at the events. I am looking forward to seeing yours at the chandler ifo. I would love to see the 1.5 launch with the camera on the launch . If the camera can keep up with it. Great job sir!
Thanks man, appreciate it!
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