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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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so what are those lines that u put on the exhaust manifold for?
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Dude. The Demand here in chicago is nuts!

A lot of shops usually look for good fabricators, and guys that open up a new door of electronics,
such as yourself! The tuners are pretty much the experts that start the business, while
they look for a gearhead, fab guy, body guy, and something special
along those lines. If they're eyes take a new found interest into perspective,
they don't hesitate and walk away. I'm talking about big shops too.

Popular ones.

Such as your Electronic engineering skills, these are the interests they seek.

If you lived over here, you wouldn't have a problem setting an appearance.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 03:16 AM
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so what are those lines that u put on the exhaust manifold for?
The lines are thermocouples.. These are K types.. they will happily measure any temperature up to 1500.C

Im feeding them all in to a processor ive designed which will combine them and send the highest of the 4 temperatures to the ECU for logging. The 4 temperatures will be sent individually to my dash computer to display and warn if necessary, and ive built a serial output so i can log it on my laptop..

The system also has fault detection systems built in which will detect disconnected sensors, damaged sensors .etc



Originally Posted by EF9_TryMe
Dude. The Demand here in chicago is nuts!

A lot of shops usually look for good fabricators, and guys that open up a new door of electronics,
such as yourself! The tuners are pretty much the experts that start the business, while
they look for a gearhead, fab guy, body guy, and something special
along those lines. If they're eyes take a new found interest into perspective,
they don't hesitate and walk away. I'm talking about big shops too.

Popular ones.

Such as your Electronic engineering skills, these are the interests they seek.

If you lived over here, you wouldn't have a problem setting an appearance.
That would be rather awesome, i would love to live in the states and do this all the time- however its a bit of a daydream at the moment.. I just want to get this car done..
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 04:25 AM
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I'm just curious. How many control systems have you added to the car so far? I haven't followed this thread for a while, but it seems like a long list.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 04:38 AM
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Actually i have removed a few..

Im changing my ECU to a LINK G4 Xtreme, which will combine everything i need withot having to have all these external piggybacks..

The only extra parts i have now are;

4wd controller
steering controller
dash computer
cooling controller
4 channel EGT processor
active aero controller
H-bridge unit for the drive by wire throttle built into the G4 ECU
fuel pump controller / monitor

thats it, all of the ones necessary to the driving of the car such as steering and fuel have basic backup systems such as relays to bypass and drive the motors / pumps at full power. The other systems can simply be isolated in the event of a fault..

Ive redesigned alot of the stuff to be alot more rugged now..
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 06:01 AM
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So I feel I don't need to say it, everyone is at an understanding of how impressive what you have done/are doing is. However I'll go ahead, fantastic build friend!

I myself am just starting in the process of trying to build my civic ('02 EP3). I have this desire to do an AWD covers ion on mine. Do you have any idea where to start researching to even figure where and what I will have to custom fabricate? I also will need it to, God be willing my build goes as plan, almost 600hp. Any input will be very apreciated! Thanks
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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wow... ur car is going to defiantly be one of a kind cant wait to see this car done and laying down rubber...
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by neihouse123
So I feel I don't need to say it, everyone is at an understanding of how impressive what you have done/are doing is. However I'll go ahead, fantastic build friend!

I myself am just starting in the process of trying to build my civic ('02 EP3). I have this desire to do an AWD covers ion on mine. Do you have any idea where to start researching to even figure where and what I will have to custom fabricate? I also will need it to, God be willing my build goes as plan, almost 600hp. Any input will be very apreciated! Thanks
Thanks alot mate! Its great to hear honestly..

With a K series engine the world is you oyster.. To start off with it spins the right way! You could even look into running an EVO transmission.. Or better than that, if you want to fabricate your own front subframe and some chassis mods, you could run it on a skyline transmission and set it backward..

In either case youll probably need an odd clutch combination to match the input shaft spline count and an adapter for the bellhousing..

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wow... ur car is going to defiantly be one of a kind cant wait to see this car done and laying down rubber...
Thanks mate, me too.. Were not too far off now!
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 12:26 AM
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Awesome build. Hope to see more soon
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 04:19 AM
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This is awesome... You have made me wanna follow through with my engineering degree :thumbs: but anyways the car kicks ***. I only read the first five pages and the last five which I know it is cheating but ill go back through is when I have more time. Some of the stuff you have come up with are nuts and mad props to you sir. I also wanna do a awd setup using parts out of a crv and civic wagoon
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by purplecivicturbo
Thanks alot mate! Its great to hear honestly..

With a K series engine the world is you oyster.. To start off with it spins the right way! You could even look into running an EVO transmission.. Or better than that, if you want to fabricate your own front subframe and some chassis mods, you could run it on a skyline transmission and set it backward..

In either case youll probably need an odd clutch combination to match the input shaft spline count and an adapter for the bellhousing..



Thanks mate, me too.. Were not too far off now!
Chris you're probably making it more complicated than need be for him. Since I've built a K-series to put in my EJ6 and working on the AWD conversion with it too, there is an easier way to do it. It just requires a CRV or Element AWD manual transmission, but I'm also converting one to a 6-speed as well. If money was no option I'd look into a Sadev trans. I'm going to be working with my friends at Hybrid-Racing on developing the mounts once I get done with school and have time to get back to work on the build.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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To be honest, im not sure..

If you want all 4 wheels to receive power then fine, but if you want a competitive system, hondas SH-AWD or even Audi's quattro (haldex) system are very basic. They are FWD until torque is lost.

In my personal opinion, RWD and part time AWD is the best (eg. skyline), other than that a torsen system such as the evo or any other centre diff based system.. It depends on what you want to do with it..

Plus using a transmission such as the EVO, means you have on the shelf parts to upgrade it with..

If i had infinite money i would build it with the mid transaxle AWD box they make.. Unfortunately my build is stuck with CRV lol
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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nice... u have to make a bad A** video when ur done on how all ur switches work lol
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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To be honest ill probably need a video myself.. Give it a few months and ill forget what they do...
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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haha... im sure u wont i mean u built it..
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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little update today..

Ive decided to do a change in the project.. I know its the worst thing you could ever do with something like this. But i do have my reasons, some are personal, some are technical- one of which is; the rear subframe i made up to hold the diff wasnt painted properly and in the weather its ruined, i would have to remove it all and re do it anyway for safety.

Secondly, this change means i wont need to shorten the prop shaft.





I have decided to move the engine into the middle. A very nice couple of chaps in the UK are doing some machining for me which will allow me to rotate the power take off from the rear of the crv engine to face just below forward- and still clear the sump.

This means i can lie back the engine and transmission slightly in the middle driving the rear wheels, and feed the stock prop shaft forwards to the modified CRV diff.

The computer will now control the car from RWD, to 50% torque to the front.

I am in the process of building a dolly to hold the engine in its intended position whilst i lift the car and put it in position. When i lower the car down over the engine, i will position it and add the engine and gearbox mounts.

I will be able to use the DSS axles i have already purchased as the rear mounting face is only 5mm further in than the front wheels- the driveshafts will still be compatible.

The radiator has been moved to the front, a company in the uk called Fiberworx is making me a sunroof plug with 4 air intakes for the engine, which will pass through a firewall built off the centre roll hoop, isolating the cabin from the engine bay.

The fuel cell will be mounted in the front, along with the PS pump, vac pump for the brakes, EP3 ABS, fuel system, radiator, engine oil cooler, and front ps and front diff coolers.

As the engine is drive by wire, the gearbox is cable actuated and hydraulically clutched, it really isnt much effort to put it in the rear.. Hopefully many more updates to come, as this im planning on being as fast as possible before the winter sits in.

Apart from buying in metal stock for the job, this has in no way increased the cost of the build so im still no further from the respray- but getting the chance to build the car i always wanted to build.. Mid engine, 4wd.. I dont think ill be able to commit to a project like this again, so i may as well do it now...
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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ive been following this thread since the beginning. the transformation is incredible.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 02:41 AM
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WOW!!! thats major change in ur build... good luck to u... this just makes this build 100x's better!!!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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When I first discovered this thread a week or so ago, I read through the entire thing, every single page. I kept hoping that by the last page there would be a final result. I was a bit disappointed but it didn't matter because it was so entertaining and fascinating. I subscribed, and now I'm seeing your latest update and I think I'm actually happy that it's not over -- just more cool stuff to read about and look at. Good luck on your continued build, please keep us updated!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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How is moving everything to the front going to affect your handling and rear traction?
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Thanks so much chaps,

The handling is a concern, having very little weight in the front is going to affect it, but i think (hope) tuning the suspension will improve it. Plus it will probably need custom spring rates..

Its hard to show it as my measurements are only on paper but the position of the engine is actually a fair way in front of the rear wheels, in the same way as the stock engine sits ahead of the axle line. This should be beneficial, i need to calculate the weight distribution for some of the major parts..

It is a bad idea to change the project so late but hopefully it will pay off.. I know im fully re-energised for the project and cant wait to get on it again..
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Small update tonight.

I made the dolly which i intended to mount the engine in its real position, and then fabricate the engine mounts..



Im not happy at all with how it ended up as the engine moved on the dolly, and also the chassis needs some adjustment to fit.. I ran out of light unfortunately but im going to modify the chassis tomorrow.
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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Chris, now you're starting to look like Randal over in the Netherlands with his mid engine NSX powered RWD DC2 a few years ago. Maybe he can give you some advise if you need. I know he lerks around here still.
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Its interesting you mention Randal.. The trailing arms on my car are actually the ones off his DC2 when he broke it..

It was such an impressive build, i have all the pictures still.. If i can get anywhere near the quality of what he accomplished i will be happy..
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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i have all the pictures still..
Happen to have those hosted anywhere? I remember seeing the beginnings of the build but it seems to be totally erased from every thread I can find. Would be nice to see them.
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