AWD EJ2 Build
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Thanks mate.. I still need to do a pressure test but i wont be sourcing the plumbing until i do the engine bits but at least the hardest bit is done now..
Obviously the computer still needs making to control it all..
Obviously the computer still needs making to control it all..
Awesome. This is one of my goals for the future of my car. However I plan on going a little more straight forward approach because I have no idea how to design computers haha.
dont quit this far in.
just simplify if you feel overwhelmed.
a lot of this is over engineered, im sure you agree. sometimes KISS (keep it simple, stupid) prevails.
edit; and mostly dont quit because this is a bad *** build.
just simplify if you feel overwhelmed.
a lot of this is over engineered, im sure you agree. sometimes KISS (keep it simple, stupid) prevails.
edit; and mostly dont quit because this is a bad *** build.
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Thanks chaps!
Well a small update now, finally..
My lexan windows have arrived, so i can get rid of the tarpaulin on the rear window..

I have started some work on the development of the AWD controller and made some drastic changes to the engine management, but im not going to go into that just yet..
Hopefully the respray isnt too far off, I have started building a coil on plug converter for honda b, d or h series engines to help fund it along with my s2000 converter.

nice i think
Well a small update now, finally..
My lexan windows have arrived, so i can get rid of the tarpaulin on the rear window..

I have started some work on the development of the AWD controller and made some drastic changes to the engine management, but im not going to go into that just yet..
Hopefully the respray isnt too far off, I have started building a coil on plug converter for honda b, d or h series engines to help fund it along with my s2000 converter.

nice i think
James May would love this thread.
nice job dude, seriously.
wouldn't it be cool if your car was featured in a Top Gear episode? i could totally see it. when its finished you should send them this thread and see what they say.
nice job dude, seriously.
wouldn't it be cool if your car was featured in a Top Gear episode? i could totally see it. when its finished you should send them this thread and see what they say.
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That would be rather awesome.. I might actually agree, i am (if not more) as geeky as James May.. and have long hair too..
Thanks alot mate, but i honestly dont think this is upto the par of Top Gear lol- not when they consider the NOBLE as a "car built in a blokes shed"..
Anyway.. Bit of an update today..
I have ordered a diffuser and fog light intakes from FIBERWORX. They have been great help with this, and ive finally been able to get a design im happy with for the oil cooler feeds..
Im using their fog light replacement ducts;

As such i have had to move the engine oil cooler to allow the feed to enter with enough room.. Im going to be making new fibreglass cowls for this but you can see how when the bumper is fitted, the duct will meet with the cowl on the oil cooler. The same will be done on the other side but i dont need to redesign anything there..
Next job (whilst im waiting on the ducts) is the outlet cowls on both sides..


Thanks alot mate, but i honestly dont think this is upto the par of Top Gear lol- not when they consider the NOBLE as a "car built in a blokes shed"..
Anyway.. Bit of an update today..
I have ordered a diffuser and fog light intakes from FIBERWORX. They have been great help with this, and ive finally been able to get a design im happy with for the oil cooler feeds..
Im using their fog light replacement ducts;

As such i have had to move the engine oil cooler to allow the feed to enter with enough room.. Im going to be making new fibreglass cowls for this but you can see how when the bumper is fitted, the duct will meet with the cowl on the oil cooler. The same will be done on the other side but i dont need to redesign anything there..
Next job (whilst im waiting on the ducts) is the outlet cowls on both sides..


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I know, i seem to make the most progress in winter as well..
I just need the last bit of money to get this respray done and then its the home straight..
I just need the last bit of money to get this respray done and then its the home straight..
I only read the first and last page. That being said, i think you could benefit from a few tips coming from my experience in Formula SAE & building 240's on the side.
1) Everything i read on the first page looks fine. As long as there is sufficient lateral bracing in your rear suspension, i don't think you'll have much of an issue with the rear differential mount as others have stated. IN addition, you could try making diff spacers or different ball joint heights to experiment with different rear roll centers. I believe the stock rear suspension geometry of the CRV may have a higher roll center. I'm not positive on that, but it'll take some experimentation at the track (unless you know the suspension's coordinates & input that data into Optimum K). I would reccomend getting coordinates & analyzing your suspension with optimum K or WinGeo to get a good idea of what your car is doing in bumps and turns.
2) Your electrical engineering work is impressive. Not many people go that far in designing & building their own controllers. From my experience designing, programming, & building my own ECU, i would HIGHLY reccomend having your final product printed on a circuit board. We were running our custom ecu on a soldered breadboard for a while untill one of the connections separated from vibration. Took us forever to source & fix this problem... literally a few months. In addition, i do not reccomend having a metal housing protecting your electronics. Use a waterproof plastic box. You can usually buy them off the shelf. They're usually cheaper than aluminum, safer, and lighter.
You take an unorthodox approach to a few of your car's systems, but i'm anxious to see how they turn out. Overall very impressed & i can't wait to see your finished product on the track!!!
1) Everything i read on the first page looks fine. As long as there is sufficient lateral bracing in your rear suspension, i don't think you'll have much of an issue with the rear differential mount as others have stated. IN addition, you could try making diff spacers or different ball joint heights to experiment with different rear roll centers. I believe the stock rear suspension geometry of the CRV may have a higher roll center. I'm not positive on that, but it'll take some experimentation at the track (unless you know the suspension's coordinates & input that data into Optimum K). I would reccomend getting coordinates & analyzing your suspension with optimum K or WinGeo to get a good idea of what your car is doing in bumps and turns.
2) Your electrical engineering work is impressive. Not many people go that far in designing & building their own controllers. From my experience designing, programming, & building my own ECU, i would HIGHLY reccomend having your final product printed on a circuit board. We were running our custom ecu on a soldered breadboard for a while untill one of the connections separated from vibration. Took us forever to source & fix this problem... literally a few months. In addition, i do not reccomend having a metal housing protecting your electronics. Use a waterproof plastic box. You can usually buy them off the shelf. They're usually cheaper than aluminum, safer, and lighter.
You take an unorthodox approach to a few of your car's systems, but i'm anxious to see how they turn out. Overall very impressed & i can't wait to see your finished product on the track!!!
im speechless on how much of a genius u are.... this the the most interesting build i have ever seen... and when i think u cant come out with something more amazing you DO!!! haha you are in ur on category of building a Honda... u put the built in "BUILT NOT BOUGHT" i cant wait to see this build finished
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Wow that is a few more replies than im used to getting....
I completely agree with the comment above, breadboard and stripboard is awful stuff for long term use. I plan, once ive proven the design to move to proper PCB.. However it gets too expensive for me if i have to start scrapping off PCBs..
Thanks for the compliment, all i can hope for is that people find it an interesting read.. I have recently changed the project ever so slightly, not ready to mention it just yet but ill be updating it soon..
I completely agree with the comment above, breadboard and stripboard is awful stuff for long term use. I plan, once ive proven the design to move to proper PCB.. However it gets too expensive for me if i have to start scrapping off PCBs..
Thanks for the compliment, all i can hope for is that people find it an interesting read.. I have recently changed the project ever so slightly, not ready to mention it just yet but ill be updating it soon..
Definitely one of my favorite projects in progress at the moment. You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. Please continue this as there are so many of us that would like to see it finished. I wish I had as much talent as you have in one hand...
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Thanks very much sir, that is quite a compliment...
There seems to be a little bit of interest in my coil on plug converter so with any luck the build will be finished soon!
There seems to be a little bit of interest in my coil on plug converter so with any luck the build will be finished soon!
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i finally received my decent (last set were sent back because they were rubbish) K type thermocouples, spent a few minutes installing them;


Holy ****!ng ****
Do you have some kind of major in computer engineering or something ?
You must've been smoking some out of this world to establish a conclusion for this! Lol.
You sir are very talented. How come you don't work for a performance shop or something, or open up your own ?
You know they got like the tuner, the fabricator, the Body work guy, you can be like the genius guy. Lol.
Do you have some kind of major in computer engineering or something ?
You must've been smoking some out of this world to establish a conclusion for this! Lol.
You sir are very talented. How come you don't work for a performance shop or something, or open up your own ?
You know they got like the tuner, the fabricator, the Body work guy, you can be like the genius guy. Lol.
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Lol thanks mate..
I do have a degree in aerospace engineering yes.. But the electronics and programming is self taught.. im just a geek lol
Thanks very very much for the compliment.. I wish i could get a job doing it, i started my own little electronics thing to fund the Civic build but its unfortunately not taken off as i would have hoped.. In the UK, tuning businesses tend to last for very short periods as the demand just isnt there..
I do have a degree in aerospace engineering yes.. But the electronics and programming is self taught.. im just a geek lol
Thanks very very much for the compliment.. I wish i could get a job doing it, i started my own little electronics thing to fund the Civic build but its unfortunately not taken off as i would have hoped.. In the UK, tuning businesses tend to last for very short periods as the demand just isnt there..


