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Nice man, glad to hear you gave up being a show car! haha just kidding. Hope the weekend turns out as planned, looking forward to pics!
Very cool news, I have type r calipers for my Queen too, yet to be put on obviously. NSX calipers should be sweet.. are they around the same overall size? as in, no need to change rim sizes?
Any reason oem over wilwood? price would probably be the biggest factor. and serviceability, yet to own a pair of wilwoods so Im not sure about much on them. Be sure to snap a pic or two when you throw them on, would love to see some more on your brake ducts too!
Very cool news, I have type r calipers for my Queen too, yet to be put on obviously. NSX calipers should be sweet.. are they around the same overall size? as in, no need to change rim sizes?
Any reason oem over wilwood? price would probably be the biggest factor. and serviceability, yet to own a pair of wilwoods so Im not sure about much on them. Be sure to snap a pic or two when you throw them on, would love to see some more on your brake ducts too!
anyone want to put a bucket seat in your EF? i have a rail that will work for you!!!! MEGA RARE EF RAIL WITH SIDEMOUNTS NOMYGOD
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Good info redzc, I have milled 23T brackets as well, I didnt realize that the nsx calipers would bolt right up and use the same pad. Ill have to keep my eyes open now.. thanks! That is pretty sexy!haha
Can you spill a little more info Nick!? Not that Im swapping my set-up just curious as to how cheap! haha, I remember paying a decent amount for good type-r pads. What about rotors? and the wilwoods use an 11inch rotor correct?
Anyone running wilwood rears as well?
And anyone ever use the "speed bleeders"? dont know if Ive asked before. just getting ready to order brake lines and wonder how well they work.
Sorry.. all this brake talk gets me going!
Can you spill a little more info Nick!? Not that Im swapping my set-up just curious as to how cheap! haha, I remember paying a decent amount for good type-r pads. What about rotors? and the wilwoods use an 11inch rotor correct?
Anyone running wilwood rears as well?
And anyone ever use the "speed bleeders"? dont know if Ive asked before. just getting ready to order brake lines and wonder how well they work.
Sorry.. all this brake talk gets me going!
there are a Lot of good pads for most wilwoods under 60 bucks...
i'll probably go that route eventually..but i've actually been using used pads.. get em for 40 shipped usually. helps with trying out lots of pad brands/styles..
i'll probably go that route eventually..but i've actually been using used pads.. get em for 40 shipped usually. helps with trying out lots of pad brands/styles..
speaking of brakes...took a friend for a ride today and did several pulls and hard braking...then brake fade like a ****. smoke coming from the pads. Duralast Golds ain't doing too well
Hot sauce, I don't like "speed breeders". I like "bro breeders" better, that is when you have a buddy come over and do it manually. Lol. Daily driven car on dot3, I will speed bleed. Track car, no sir.
Didnt think they were very safe, thank you sir.. Ill stick to the bro bleeding! hasn't failed yet.
What is the most preferred pad for you track junkies if you dont mind sharing?
What is the most preferred pad for you track junkies if you dont mind sharing?
my favorite pads ever so far out of a half dozen or more tried are Cobalt xr3 (i think thats what they were). they lasted, not joking, 30 trackdays.. or more.. i could still use them (barely into the big rivet, still 1/4'' left). amazing bite, but MAN THEY WILL RUST YOU OUT.
then i like hawk blues...very similar.
then i like ferrodo 3000s
then ferrodo 2500s
then raybestos st43.. or maybe those are best. cant remember. wasnt taking notes then. haha
then, THE CHEAPEST SEMI-METTALIC PADS YOU CAN BUY. pretty good, and always have a set of them for backup pads, or street pads. seriously.
oh, and i saw speedbleeders not close, dude didnt check his brakes before getting on track, and had NOTHING , went straight off track and flipped ***-over-nose. no joke. happened at our event , west-michigan-Honda-meet 5, in 2005.
then i like hawk blues...very similar.
then i like ferrodo 3000s
then ferrodo 2500s
then raybestos st43.. or maybe those are best. cant remember. wasnt taking notes then. haha
then, THE CHEAPEST SEMI-METTALIC PADS YOU CAN BUY. pretty good, and always have a set of them for backup pads, or street pads. seriously.
oh, and i saw speedbleeders not close, dude didnt check his brakes before getting on track, and had NOTHING , went straight off track and flipped ***-over-nose. no joke. happened at our event , west-michigan-Honda-meet 5, in 2005.
my favorite pads ever so far out of a half dozen or more tried are Cobalt xr3 (i think thats what they were). they lasted, not joking, 30 trackdays.. or more.. i could still use them (barely into the big rivet, still 1/4'' left). amazing bite, but MAN THEY WILL RUST YOU OUT.
i always am stuck doing it myself, unless im at the track. the way i do it is....
get 18-ish inch long clear hose that fits on bleeders. put hose as straight up as possible, into a old water bottle. i usually jam water bottle up by strut somewhere, higher than the bleeders, so air has to go straight up, fluid stays at caliper.
crack em open, and leave em open (you can do all 4 at same time, or just one, this way)
hop in car...give pedal slow half-pushes (dont bottom out, or you can kill seals on master)
do it a bit, then hop out and tap master cylinder, fill it up, etc . tap all the calipers, knock bubbles out, etc.
do it a bit more. close em up, feel pedal, fire car up, feel pedal again, it'll be rock solid. haha
reason this works so well is the open-close-open-close method takes forever, takes two dudes, and you wouldnt believe how much air comes out on the upstroke of the pedals sometimes! (whenever i have someone to pump pedals, i watch all real quick, seeing when air stops coming out.)
get 18-ish inch long clear hose that fits on bleeders. put hose as straight up as possible, into a old water bottle. i usually jam water bottle up by strut somewhere, higher than the bleeders, so air has to go straight up, fluid stays at caliper.
crack em open, and leave em open (you can do all 4 at same time, or just one, this way)
hop in car...give pedal slow half-pushes (dont bottom out, or you can kill seals on master)
do it a bit, then hop out and tap master cylinder, fill it up, etc . tap all the calipers, knock bubbles out, etc.
do it a bit more. close em up, feel pedal, fire car up, feel pedal again, it'll be rock solid. haha
reason this works so well is the open-close-open-close method takes forever, takes two dudes, and you wouldnt believe how much air comes out on the upstroke of the pedals sometimes! (whenever i have someone to pump pedals, i watch all real quick, seeing when air stops coming out.)
If I remember right a brand new rsx ended up in the ditch that year too
Aren't brakes the first thing that you subconsciously 'check' when you hop in the car? I dont understand how anyone could hop in the car, take it full speed down a straight, the whole time not realizing his brakes aren't working.
As soon as I get in the car, I mash the brake pedal. It's always been an instant thing. Mash the brake and the clutch then start the car - feel brake pedal go down slightly after startup - notice that it is still firm.
redzc- you should try taping a magnet to the water bottle with electrical tape. Then you could just stick it on the fender and know it's not gonna fall while you pump. This sounds like a really good method. I'm going to have to give it a whirl when I get the crx running again and swap the 15/16th's master in.
speaking of which, didn't you guys tell me to get a DA reservoir for this 91 EX master cylinder?
As soon as I get in the car, I mash the brake pedal. It's always been an instant thing. Mash the brake and the clutch then start the car - feel brake pedal go down slightly after startup - notice that it is still firm.
redzc- you should try taping a magnet to the water bottle with electrical tape. Then you could just stick it on the fender and know it's not gonna fall while you pump. This sounds like a really good method. I'm going to have to give it a whirl when I get the crx running again and swap the 15/16th's master in.
speaking of which, didn't you guys tell me to get a DA reservoir for this 91 EX master cylinder?
magnet on my brake fluid bottles is a GREAT idea. doing it.
with the DA reservoir/EX master, i'm not sure why you need to....i'm just running EX ones on all our EFs that come through our shop.
with the DA reservoir/EX master, i'm not sure why you need to....i'm just running EX ones on all our EFs that come through our shop.




