so you're going NA for now?

 

Until the summer yeh, i wanna be certain the motor holds together well before I start investing money on the turbo setup.

 

are you going to dyno it to see what it does NA?

 

More then likely yes, unless when i go to the track next week it runs a 14.6 again right out of the gate lol then ill have a rough idea of what its making already.

 

IT LIVES ONCE AGAIN.

 

that thing idles nice! you're running obd1 or 2 in that vid? can you tell me your exhaust setup? it sounds nice

 

May I ask though - are you feeding it a mixture of oil and gas ?? It's just that there's a lot of blue smoke exiting the exhaust

 

obd1 on ectune, and its a flopro baffle pack and a solo performance oe style muffler, 3" from the header back.

lol it literally has a little over 30 minutes of run time so far so yeh theres gonna be a little bit of smoke until the rings seat. Havent gotten it out of the driveway yet to drive it, it took about 10 minutes for the blowby to clearup from the crankcase vent.

 

I know the score... That's normally my excuse . At least it's up and running again. You going to street tune it yourself ? Or you straight to the dyno ?

 

dyno! who needs a dyno when you have the race track :p for the most part im gonna tune it on the street, i might take it up to psiproformance and see how it does on the dyno though, see if they can squeeze anything else out if it with adjusting the cam gears.

 

Well, i must be cursed with something I dont know what, because I went to go drive it this morning, and i was getting everything setup, tuning the idle, and all the sudden the car just started blowing smoke like crazy out the exhaust, white and blue, no idea why, i kept revving it up and it just kept smoking. So i wasnt sure if it was a head gasket problem or oil cus it was puking water out the back as well. At this point i was furious, so i jumped in the car and just romped on it down the block, and when i came back a couple minutes later, it had cleared up, almost to nothing.

So thinking it was just a fluke, took the car out all day, drove it around, tuned, made adjustments etc. Didnt see any smoke the rest of the day....came back from my friends house, and its sitting there idling...and....smoke again. So i revved it up, smoke. White smoke, but i can see a faint cloud of blueish behind the car that is really hard to see...so im like, what the hell.

Time for a compression test, yank all the plugs out, plugs look good, but a little wet, mind you these are #7's which is probably a bit cold as they were for the supercharger setup prior. But the coloring looked good on all of them. Compression test yielded 205 across all 4 cylinders, so I felt fine about this. Put the car back together, started it up....smoke again...what the hell. So i let it sit for a while, just got back from beating the **** out of it, and I dont see anything now, but im gonna do an actual leakdown test tomorrow and see what i can find.

I am thoroughly hoping that my machine shop did not goof up the install of these valve guides, or that there isnt a problem with these piston rings. I would rather take a 1000 miles to get these damn rings to seat, or have to change a head gasket, rather then have to rip this entire motor apart again and have the block redone AGAIN.

 

If I were to take a WAG, I'd look at the valve stem seals. I had a similar problem with the blue supertech stem seal not seating on the guide properly. I installed OEM seals and have not had an issue since.

 

I used OEM seals on the supertech guides lol. Right now im still leaning that way, one other thing im considering is the shitty password jdm intake gasket, the plastic one that i used. Even though i put "hondabond", a thin layer, around the coolant outlet on both sides of the gasket and torqued it, its possible the stretch on the new studs or just the heating and cooling cycles is allowing it to seep into cylinder #4 somehow. Gonna retorque it tomorrow see what that does.

 

The only thing that saved me from ripping it apart was luckily a friend had a video bore scope he lent me and I was able to see through the throttle body down into the port.

 

That might be in the near future as well if this smoke doesn't clear up soon, im just hoping its the rings having a little bit more of a time seating this time around because of the homemade hone job with the 400 grit stone, and the slightly looser ring gaps this time around. The fact that theres no smoke at WOT tells me that the problem isnt catastrophic but definitely not something i want persisting at all.

I also really need to get this supertech 5w30 oil out of this system soon. Ive never seen oil that is clear before. I wanted break in oil that didnt have alot of additives, but i dont want "break your motor" oil either.

 

I personally would never use anything lower than 10w30 for a break in oil. As long as you aren't below zero or what have you, there isn't a reason to go lower anyway. Maybe some of your problem is the thin oil until it works it way up to operating temp?

 

Ive considered that as a possiblity, this supertech oil is ****, its runny like water, and its API SN which means its got next to no additive package in it. The change over to rotella T6 will be coming this week for sure, and im probably gonna top it off with a half a quart of T6 tomorrow morning.

 

oooooohhh noe'zz..
Hopefully its just the rings seating.

I would have done the exact same thing and and romped on that ***** haha

 

Damn, sorry to hear this Spawne . Do you think you may have accidentally damaged/broke a piston ring on assembly ?

 

your video is private man

 

I leakdown tested the motor on the engine stand to make sure the cylinders were even across all 4 and the results were good, so...i dunno.

 

So changed the plugs this morning, after the highway pulls last night the #7 plugs looked dry, no signs of oil leakage. Swapped in the #6 plugs as the #7's are showing signs of being too cold (no heat marks on the threads). Ran the car for a bit, and did the leakdown test. Shitty results in my opinion.

Cylinder #1 - 14% (which i half expected because it was the worst out of all the cylinders previously, and a second ring gap of .024)
Cylinder #2 - 5%
Cylinder #3 - 7%
Cylinder #4 - 9%

So i consider anything over 5% to be a failure at this point, but we will see how the results are at the end of the month after some tuning and racing. Also decided to test the new gopro today on the highway to see how it would fair for when I race at the track, gotta say im not too impressed with the sound quality....

 

So it smokes when you're idling (closed throttle, high manifold vacuum), but clears up when you drive it (open throttle, lower manifold vacuum)?

 

No more smoking as far as i can tell.

 

did you have the waterproof case on the camera when you filmed that video?