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Old May 1, 2024 | 03:11 PM
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Lead deposits from the stupid cam2 racegas ruined my cylinder walls and injector. Walls are rusted and scored with lead deposits. Piston tops were rusted and pitted. Says its rusted like it sat outside in the rain for years. Injectors will need to be sent out for rebuild or some serious cleaning. I added 60% increase with no additional fuel. He added a cramp ton of fuel to the same result. So weird because there happened over the course of like six months

so once again its teardown and repeat.
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Old May 1, 2024 | 06:19 PM
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Old May 2, 2024 | 03:03 PM
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****** hatin life right now. Right when im about to buy a truck, pay for surgery, and then an xray.

In talks with 4piston on their shortblocks. Current 84mm block has already been decked a couple times. So i think im done with it. Goin to 84.25mm or 84.5mm then decking it again will just create more in hassles im not interested in.
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Old May 3, 2024 | 06:33 AM
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****** hatin life right now. Right when im about to buy a truck, pay for surgery, and then an xray.

In talks with 4piston on their shortblocks. Current 84mm block has already been decked a couple times. So i think im done with it. Goin to 84.25mm or 84.5mm then decking it again will just create more in hassles im not interested in.
Damn bro hate to see it!! Timing of these events is always the worse I swear smh. Yeah I did something similar once my old sleeve motor blew at 84.5mm I said **** it and went with a fresh b18c1 I bought local and sent it off to Ramey Racing for a shortblock package. It's worth it to not have to deal with the hassle of assembly etc.

Unfortunately I am battling problems now as well. I need cheaper hobbies lol.
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Old May 3, 2024 | 08:45 AM
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Damn bro hate to see it!! Timing of these events is always the worse I swear smh. Yeah I did something similar once my old sleeve motor blew at 84.5mm I said **** it and went with a fresh b18c1 I bought local and sent it off to Ramey Racing for a shortblock package. It's worth it to not have to deal with the hassle of assembly etc.

Unfortunately I am battling problems now as well. I need cheaper hobbies lol.
Right!!! I have sources locally, but im just gona get the ball rolling. And!!! I decided to go thru ramey built. My tuner mentioned years ago, that he sends his block to get sleeved by him. So he trust his work. Turnaround time is quicker also.

i will be using their gsr block and crank core build packages. Now i just have to either get the injectors cleaned really good or replaced. Figure out what im gona do for fuel(not e85 lol). Timing covers, oil pump, pickup, baffling, and likely the post mount. Not sure if its different from b16s
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Old May 3, 2024 | 01:04 PM
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Right!!! I have sources locally, but im just gona get the ball rolling. And!!! I decided to go thru ramey built. My tuner mentioned years ago, that he sends his block to get sleeved by him. So he trust his work. Turnaround time is quicker also.

i will be using their gsr block and crank core build packages. Now i just have to either get the injectors cleaned really good or replaced. Figure out what im gona do for fuel(not e85 lol). Timing covers, oil pump, pickup, baffling, and likely the post mount. Not sure if its different from b16s
Yeah I highly recommend them! Great customer service and turnaround time. If you follow them on IG they are having 15% off "everything" on their site for the next 2 days. Just use their coupon code posted on their story. 15% off a shortblock package would be clutch!
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Old May 3, 2024 | 05:00 PM
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****** too late. Already paid, dude didnt even mention a code lol
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Old May 31, 2024 | 04:26 PM
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Leaded fuel pics















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Old May 31, 2024 | 08:15 PM
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How long has that engine been sitting since it has run ?
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Old Jun 1, 2024 | 03:45 AM
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Lol. Six ******* months if that. My tuner asked the same thing. Everything is documented here from when it ran on hondata. Started the install for the g4x ecu. And it idled poorly literally three times briefly before it died out. Then would do **** for months. Had me chasing my tail when it wasnt getting fuel all along. Due to the injectors being fucked. Internally, they prolly look just like the inside of my engine.

Spoke with an old car buddy some weeks ago. He reminded me, the he thought the cam2 racegas used to absorb water really good. So it was my fault for not empting the racegas, and running 93 octane thru the system. Live and learn. Now i need to do my homework on if the boostane octane booster will do the same thing. I can gladly go back to running that. I just dont remember if i was using it long enough for the car to sit and potentially do the same thing. Which im pretty sure it have, and didnt
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Old Jun 1, 2024 | 09:32 AM
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Lol. Six ******* months if that.
Holy ****! Dude, I'm so sorry. I also run leaded fuel and leave my car for longer periods off but that has never happened before. Are you sure that's not water? What type of fuel do you run? I've been running a 50/50 mix of VP110 leaded and 92 octane pump. I have to replace my wideband every other year and my exhaust is white but other than that it's been fine. I should probably have my fuel injectors cleaned, it's been a while.

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Old Jun 1, 2024 | 02:43 PM
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Holy ****! Dude, I'm so sorry. I also run leaded fuel and leave my car for longer periods off but that has never happened before. Are you sure that's not water? What type of fuel do you run? I've been running a 50/50 mix of VP110 leaded and 92 octane pump. I have to replace my wideband every other year and my exhaust is white but other than that it's been fine. I should probably have my fuel injectors cleaned, it's been a while.
Eventually when i got the b16 bored to 84mm, i switched to 93 octane witha full 32oz of boostane. That got me to 104octane. Price was over hundred on gas(year or two ago mind you). I then remember that toledo sale cam2(racegas) locally at two different stations. Research showed that if was just rebranded sunoco 110octane. Ran that for literally one season i believe before i was done with the hondata issue. It sat with 1/8th of the cam2 fuel in the tank. **** the entire fuel system is prolly fucked. Something in the properties mite make it vulnerable to absorbing moisture. Or maybe the cam2 is more ideal for like 2 stroke dirtbikes or whatnot.

City 30mins up north from me sells 5 gallon vp fuel at their honda dirtbike shop. But the ***** a fortune.

I know turbolscrx down in kentucky runs the renegade stuff. And i dont think he has issues either
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Old Jun 1, 2024 | 03:08 PM
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Geez, okay, will not buy that gas. I've left the gas in the tank for a year before without issue.

I buy VP110 at the pump for a little under $10/gl here in Oregon. Or I can buy a 5gl drum for about $75 which is a bit expensive I go through about 20 gallons of fuel in a day at the track, so around $150 in gas per day.
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Old Jun 1, 2024 | 03:24 PM
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Under 10 bucks isnt bad. The cam2 was 8.5 a gallon. But ugh the 5 gallon pail price is a bit much.

Live and learn i guess.
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Old Jun 25, 2024 | 01:43 PM
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New block, dampner, oil pump, pickup, timing cover, and hardware is on the way. Had the injectors cleaned a few weeks ago. Carl at hidden motorsports was able to really clean and free them. Although he didnt do a before and after reading, the flow measuremnt on the set timer, he said they currently wouldnt be anything to worry about. Apparently after the lead deposits, it needed a severe cleaning. Will updated soon. Everything is already ripped out and ready to go
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 01:41 PM
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Finally got my block after being shipped here and returned to virginia twice. Box was fubbared. Naturally cause those ***** dont care. Just scanning and tossing boxes. Regardless how heavy or its marked fragile. Tranny mounting through hole was impacted and pushed in from being thrown around. Oil breather chamber port was spider web cracked also.



Started assembling the rest of the shortblock components. 2.0L 10.8 comp. The 10.8 traum pistons had alot more dome than the wiseco. Also took apart the old oil pump to check it out. And to see what all would need cleaned up or ported
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 09:50 PM
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Shipping blocks has never been appealing to me. Get that thing in the car and movin! No breaks!
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 11:28 PM
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Still waiting on acurapartswarehouse.com to comfirm and ship my damn oil pan and filter nipple.
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 11:11 PM
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Hell ya! 2.0-liter b18c club! Let's goooo. I've shipped a block a few times, the best method is to build a big wooden box inside a cardboard box. Put the engine in a trashbag and drop it into the box (make sure to sing "and put a hole in that box.....") and use expanding foam to fill the whole interior of the box. It won't move after that.
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It would have to ship by frieght with a wooden box. Due to weight. I didnt have any kinds of these issues when i went thru golden eagle.

Ported both the old and new oil pump. Now i have a spare for whatever dumb reason. Really need to stop hording so many parts lol.

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Old Aug 2, 2024 | 07:33 AM
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Lookin good. You got a ramey block right? What clearances did they set the bearings to
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Old Aug 2, 2024 | 03:29 PM
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Yea its a ramey shortblock. Its clearanced for 20w50.
-Mains are for the most part: .0024; .0025; and one at .0028
-Rods are at: 0021; and .0022.
They didnt send me the final deck height.
Pistons are wiseco -2.3CC, 30mm CH. static compression will be back to near 10.8 compression.

Got the surface lock, flywheel, and clutch installed. Then decided since im way more stout now than i was in my 20s, when i was lifting these tranny all the time, that i would bench it up again. Slid it onto my chest. Then pressed that bitch right up there no problem. ****** would go in. Did that like four times. Then decided to go get the jack lol. As im looking at it for overhead, i still had three tranny bolts threaded into it lol. Put them back i so i remember which length goes where.

Anyways, got it all back together. New speedfactory magnetic drain plugs and detent springs. From comparison, the speedfactory ones are longer and stiffer. Have prolly two days of engine bay work left. Waiting on headgasket from golden eagle. Gona order my torco fluids, then pick up some basic supertech oil to flush any debris for startup. Then change to the sr1 oil.

Still will have to pump out all the BS fuel out of the tank. And put the fuel filter in the cleaner

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Old Aug 2, 2024 | 07:59 PM
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Yea i saw a block fs on market place and they clearances were huge like that. Very weird. I thought .0020 was about the biggest you go before using an aluminum rod. Is the block rated for 1000hp?
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Old Aug 2, 2024 | 11:33 PM
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1000whp or 1100whp block rating. 750whp on their ramey spec h beam rods.

Ive loved to compared build sheets from gen2ls setup.

Edit...
apparently my brake master cylinder is/has been leaking. Guess ill be pricing out an ITR master cylinder

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1000whp or 1100whp block rating. 750whp on their ramey spec h beam rods.

Ive loved to compared build sheets from gen2ls setup.

Edit...
apparently my brake master cylinder is/has been leaking. Guess ill be pricing out an ITR master cylinder
Looking good man!! You went with their 750hp block package correct? That's what I'm running. I'll see if I can find my spec sheet.
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