Pushing the 18G

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 22, 2005 | 11:11 PM
  #151  
Maxime's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
From: Montreal, QC, Canada
Default Re: (BoostR41)

I'm currently going into the process of rebuilding my engine and I was wondering what kind of power I can expect.

3 years ago I made 238 whp @ 7psi on a stock B16A2.

Here is the "new" setup:

B16A2
Stock sleeves
CP Pistons 9.0:1 81.5mm
Eagle rods
ACL Bearings
ARP Head Studs
OEM Head Gasket
GSR cams
RC 550cc injectors
Walbro 255lph
2.5" Downpipe
3.0" Exhaust
Spearco intercooler
2.5" intercooler piping.

Tune with Chrome Pro.

Do you think I can get 300whp on pump gas?
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:47 AM
  #152  
LoSt is BlaCk's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 11,697
Likes: 0
From: Just Drank A 5th of VODKA Dare me to drive, Ca, u.s.
Default Re: (Maxime)

more setups
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:28 AM
  #153  
roydogg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,954
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in South Philly, usa
Default Re: (nfn15037)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A 3 inch downpipe without the cast Greddy elbow is hands down the bext thing you can do for this setup.





ATP Turbo sells a nice Vband adaptor for T25-flanged turbos </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is this the v band adaptor that'll fit he 18g turbo?

http://www.atpturbo.com/Mercha...e=FLS
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:01 AM
  #154  
urbansi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,636
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area, us
Default Re: (roydogg)

yes sir. About a week later i bought the adapter for my 18g, its really nice, not to mention that once you have the full 3in, the 18g see's full boost really fast, about 400rpm's sooner, if not faster.

Just remember to get all you v-band clamps etc, it gets a little pricey
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:48 PM
  #155  
roydogg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,954
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in South Philly, usa
Default Re: (urbansi)

just the v-band and the clamps is all I need right? And probaly some of that heat wrap ish.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:35 PM
  #156  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (urbansi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urbansi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats interesting, i have one concern though, i am afraid that once the motor gets pulled that there could be some cylinder scoring, and while i planning on ball honing the walls i am worrying about oil consumption etc. in that case the budget may need to be a little higher.

any other suggestions </TD></TR></TABLE>

That housing is different than the one used for the 18G. The one from Greddy is a Mitsu/garrett hybrid that uses a T2 flange inlet for the greddy. The Bullseye is a DSM 8cm sq -based turbine housing. It will not fit.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:10 PM
  #157  
roydogg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,954
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in South Philly, usa
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (TheShodan)

I've gone external now and want a 3"dp rather than my 2 1/2 flared to 3" since I took out A/C.

btw what v-band is he using then
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:16 PM
  #158  
urbansi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,636
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area, us
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (roydogg)

...


Modified by urbansi at 10:07 PM 5/22/2006
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 03:09 AM
  #159  
boosted dc4's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY, USA
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (urbansi)

Bringing this thread back becuase I'm getting into the turbo game. I just picked up an 18G greddy kit from my boy.

My setup consists of a...

b16a head
mild port and polish
3 angle valve job
01 ITR cams
skunk2 cam gears
skunk2 valve springs
skunk2 titanium retainers

b18b(GE sleeved and bored to 84mm)
Arias 9.2:1 pistons
Eagle h-beam rods
ACL bearings kit
ARP head studs
OEM ITR water pump
OEM ITR oil pump
OEM LS headgasket

RC 550cc injectors
Precision intercooler
2.5" intercooler piping
2.5" downpipe
3" exhaust
Hondata s200 w/boost
Pump gas

Would it be possible to hit 350+ whp?
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 01:27 PM
  #160  
urbansi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,636
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area, us
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (dc4 lsv)

Wow with a setup like that putting an 18g on there is alomst the biggest waste of time..........ever.

Get a quality equal length manifold and a gt35R and make some real power. Unless its a daily driver and you want quick spool, but still i then would suggest like a 30R.

For the origional question if you plan on using the 18G yes you should make over 350whp, the turbo is actually a little under rated.

and because i havent updated this thread in a long time i will post this


and to the person that said the 18G is T2.

Believe me, your dead wrong........
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:15 PM
  #161  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (urbansi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urbansi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow with a setup like that putting an 18g on there is alomst the biggest waste of time..........ever.

Get a quality equal length manifold and a gt35R and make some real power. Unless its a daily driver and you want quick spool, but still i then would suggest like a 30R.

For the origional question if you plan on using the 18G yes you should make over 350whp, the turbo is actually a little under rated.

and because i havent updated this thread in a long time i will post this


and to the person that said the 18G is T2.

Believe me, your dead wrong........</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, your picture proved me quite correct. That is a T2 setup on the manifold. Had a Greddy Kit back in 1999, and they are still the same inlet system since then. Thanks for showing that!!
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:35 PM
  #162  
urbansi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,636
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area, us
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (urbansi)

are you talking about the exhaust housing or the manifold itself, because the exhaust housing has a t-25/t-28 style exhaust flange, which is made by Garrett

What i used, straight from ATP turbo

"The V-Band Adapter for the GT25/28

High Flowing 3.00" V-Band discharge module is now available for the GT25R, GT28R, GT28RS, GT2871R, GT3071R-WG, GT3076R-WG."

Reply
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:44 PM
  #163  
boosted dc4's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY, USA
Default Re: Pushing the 18G (urbansi)

I know it seems like a waste with this but I figured since I'm entering the turbo scene and I picked up this Greddy 18G kit for $1000 along with some of the goodies listed, I want to give it a start then I would go for my bigger plans later like a GT35R like you mentioned. I just wanted to know what you guys thought of in terms of numbers and potential.
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:31 PM
  #164  
VspecSiR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
From: Da Kine, HI
Default GT28RS

has anyone switched out the 18G for a GT28RS? And another question is, can you clock internal wastegated turbo's?
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2006 | 12:59 AM
  #165  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: GT28RS (VspecSiR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VspecSiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone switched out the 18G for a GT28RS? And another question is, can you clock internal wastegated turbo's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Some internally-gated turbochargers can be clocked slightly depending upon how the wastegate bracket is fitted. If the internal gate itself needs to be relocated, only if you have a swivel/lock arm can that be done.

Urbansi: I was refering to turbine inlet design of T2.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2006 | 09:01 AM
  #166  
urbansi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,636
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area, us
Default Re: GT28RS (TheShodan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Urbansi: I was refering to turbine inlet design of T2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah i see.

DC4lsv- you should be able to make well over 300whp with an 18G expecially with your setup. It will be nice on the street as far as power band and tourque but with your setup having so much potential its just such a waste. Oh well good luck with your build, and post some pictures when you have it all done.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:29 AM
  #167  
APEX i GSR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,402
Likes: 0
From: I need an Adult
Default Re: GT28RS (urbansi)

I have a question. Has anyone used a JG/Edelbrock I/M with the 18g?
I heard the 18g does not push enough air to see any gains from it and that you might lose some power with it. Is this true? Kinda going for 350whp and already own the manifold
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:50 PM
  #168  
Maxime's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
From: Montreal, QC, Canada
Default Re: (Maxime)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maxime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm currently going into the process of rebuilding my engine and I was wondering what kind of power I can expect.

3 years ago I made 238 whp @ 7psi on a stock B16A2.

Here is the "new" setup:

B16A2
Stock sleeves
CP Pistons 9.0:1 81.5mm
Eagle rods
ACL Bearings
ARP Head Studs
OEM Head Gasket
GSR cams
RC 550cc injectors
Walbro 255lph
2.5" Downpipe
3.0" Exhaust
Spearco intercooler
2.5" intercooler piping.

Do you think I can get 300whp on pump gas?

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just came back from the dyno.

The car made:
303whp @ 7600rpm
232 ft-lbs @ 4900rpm

@ 16psi

Reply
Old May 21, 2008 | 12:06 PM
  #169  
ABK's Avatar
ABK
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,765
Likes: 0
From: I HATE, RICE
Default Re: (Maxime)

what's the quickest time anybody ran on 18g. stock downpipe
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 01:55 PM
  #170  
ABK's Avatar
ABK
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,765
Likes: 0
From: I HATE, RICE
Default Re: (ABK)

or did anybody break into 11s on 18g?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
oldskool1111
Forced Induction
27
Feb 24, 2010 07:22 PM
Christopherian1982
Forced Induction
6
Apr 21, 2009 09:01 PM
BDTURBO
Forced Induction
3
Nov 5, 2004 08:05 PM
GreddySi99
Forced Induction
3
Aug 13, 2003 09:57 AM
Kevin
Forced Induction
4
Nov 25, 2002 07:22 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:01 AM.