Holset users unite!
Little update, I had to have the wg flange on my neukin mani moved because the damn holset snail is so big!
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it doesnt come on any of the cumminsdiesels... the hx40s were found on semis andsuch.
but guess what.. i hear a holset ht60 (1000hp efficient) calling my name.... along with a custom turbine housing to bump it down from a t6 to a t4
but guess what.. i hear a holset ht60 (1000hp efficient) calling my name.... along with a custom turbine housing to bump it down from a t6 to a t4
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si Shane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish my turbo was that pretty.
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Awww, it's ok Shane. One of these days when my hy35 is in heat, we'll put your hy35 in the backyard with mine and six months later cute little hx30 babies will arrive.
Edit: Holy ****!! Just added everything up for my dp materials and the total is $259.81 not including shipping! Wow, I might just have to search for a few days to find a mild 3" - 4" transition and do it all in ms. I don't know if I can justify almost $300 just for dp materials.
Modified by KeyserSoze at 5:51 AM 11/26/2005
</TD></TR></TABLE>Awww, it's ok Shane. One of these days when my hy35 is in heat, we'll put your hy35 in the backyard with mine and six months later cute little hx30 babies will arrive.
Edit: Holy ****!! Just added everything up for my dp materials and the total is $259.81 not including shipping! Wow, I might just have to search for a few days to find a mild 3" - 4" transition and do it all in ms. I don't know if I can justify almost $300 just for dp materials.
Modified by KeyserSoze at 5:51 AM 11/26/2005
dont know if this helps anyone looking for a 4"-3" reducer but i found this on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...#pics
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...#pics
i just picked up an HX40 with a custom hotside for my 2L, cant wait to tune it as soon as my head is ready. http://www.timsturbos.com/HX40_DSM.html I got mine from amit on HT , he can get you one cheaper from timsturbos.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si Shane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where did you guys get the oil drain and feed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I got the oil feed from a local hose shop, I got thier high temp braided line and used some heat wrap on it. The actual fitting to the turbo was a pain in the *** to get. I had to go down to a turbo shop and they gave me a bushing so that I could have the hose shop match a fitting up to. They just had the bushing sittin around because they deal with a lot of holsets. I asked him how much he wanted for it but he told me I could have it. Really nice guys there. http://www.turbocharged.com
As for the drain, it looks as though its a standard drain size, I may be wrong though.
I got the oil feed from a local hose shop, I got thier high temp braided line and used some heat wrap on it. The actual fitting to the turbo was a pain in the *** to get. I had to go down to a turbo shop and they gave me a bushing so that I could have the hose shop match a fitting up to. They just had the bushing sittin around because they deal with a lot of holsets. I asked him how much he wanted for it but he told me I could have it. Really nice guys there. http://www.turbocharged.com
As for the drain, it looks as though its a standard drain size, I may be wrong though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KeyserSoze »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As for the drain, it looks as though its a standard drain size, I may be wrong though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is...i just used a old saab turbo drain pipe...cut it up a lil and added some rubber hose to a barded fitting tap'd into the oil pan...
As for the drain, it looks as though its a standard drain size, I may be wrong though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is...i just used a old saab turbo drain pipe...cut it up a lil and added some rubber hose to a barded fitting tap'd into the oil pan...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by steelies »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick question; were any of the hx35's ever oil AND water cooled?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dotn think so....but i could be wrong...
i dotn think so....but i could be wrong...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cdaledh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">KeyserSoze, I registered exclusively to speak with you. Would you please send me those three HX40 maps?
Thank you very much!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
usually helps to post your email
he's not the only one that has'm
Thank you very much!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
usually helps to post your email
he's not the only one that has'm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ill dig them up when im at home and send the ones i have 2morrow
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Lemme know if u get em' all.
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Lemme know if u get em' all.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _Morphius_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I've asked before, numbers? Last guy gave me 256 for a max for ITR head. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like old fatass' ITR head, rhd.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _Morphius_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock 90-94 DSM 2.0L DOHC head (tested by polk performance)
Lift CFM
.050 48.91
.100 94.21
.150 139.62
.200 181.24
.250 216.94
.300 241.11
.350 261.52
.400 271.14
.450 280.45</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, those look like flow figures for pretty well worked Honduh B-series heads. Which make more power NA than your stock Mitsufeces heads make under boost. *gasp*
Now, I like 4G63 a lot, watched Jeff boost #366/2000 to 30-something psi (I dunno, boost gauge needle hits a stop peg on or about the ~32 psi mark) on a stock 160K mile bottom end, for the last 10K miles. Let me qualify that by saying everything bolted on or around the 4G63 is junk, but I like the engine itself bunches and bunches.
However, this does not change the fact that flowbench numbers have zero to do with flow quality.
Keep in mind H22 heads flow about like your 4G63 does, stock out of the box, but still manage to make **** poor power hp/psi compared against their smaller displacement B-series. This illustrates my point perfectly.
You play actual airflow cfm off against as close to peak port velocity as you can get across a useable rpm band for best power... notice I'm still not addressing the complex subject of flow quality... plus the mad ninja headache of proper cam design, combustion chamber design, overcoming the inexorable logistics of the tuenarboi process, etc etc ad nauseam. The 4G63 falls short, trades reliability for power production and acual flow through the head. I mean, Speed Phreak made 340 whp at 12 psi on P1's Mustang dyno off of an HX 35 and unported '91 small port LS head - not even an OMG WTF MAD JDM VTEC head, inarguably the least of the B-series heads. What do DSMs do at 12 psi? 200 whp? Pfft.
Not that hp per psi means ****, except to ****** Honduh riceboys, but you want to argue it. It's all about brute force induction of air mass, and dealing with it. Which bone stock 4G63 does admirably, but you want to play Honduhboy OMG HP PER LITER PER PSI idiocity, which I want to smack enough of these HT kiddies over already. You sound just like my best friend, another DSMtard like you. You two would probably fall in love and decide you were gay, if you met.
So, where did the lot of you get the idea to run diesel turbos on four cylinder jap crap, anyway? Craziest thing Joey's ever heard...
Sounds like old fatass' ITR head, rhd.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _Morphius_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock 90-94 DSM 2.0L DOHC head (tested by polk performance)
Lift CFM
.050 48.91
.100 94.21
.150 139.62
.200 181.24
.250 216.94
.300 241.11
.350 261.52
.400 271.14
.450 280.45</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, those look like flow figures for pretty well worked Honduh B-series heads. Which make more power NA than your stock Mitsufeces heads make under boost. *gasp*
Now, I like 4G63 a lot, watched Jeff boost #366/2000 to 30-something psi (I dunno, boost gauge needle hits a stop peg on or about the ~32 psi mark) on a stock 160K mile bottom end, for the last 10K miles. Let me qualify that by saying everything bolted on or around the 4G63 is junk, but I like the engine itself bunches and bunches.
However, this does not change the fact that flowbench numbers have zero to do with flow quality. Keep in mind H22 heads flow about like your 4G63 does, stock out of the box, but still manage to make **** poor power hp/psi compared against their smaller displacement B-series. This illustrates my point perfectly.
You play actual airflow cfm off against as close to peak port velocity as you can get across a useable rpm band for best power... notice I'm still not addressing the complex subject of flow quality... plus the mad ninja headache of proper cam design, combustion chamber design, overcoming the inexorable logistics of the tuenarboi process, etc etc ad nauseam. The 4G63 falls short, trades reliability for power production and acual flow through the head. I mean, Speed Phreak made 340 whp at 12 psi on P1's Mustang dyno off of an HX 35 and unported '91 small port LS head - not even an OMG WTF MAD JDM VTEC head, inarguably the least of the B-series heads. What do DSMs do at 12 psi? 200 whp? Pfft.
Not that hp per psi means ****, except to ****** Honduh riceboys, but you want to argue it. It's all about brute force induction of air mass, and dealing with it. Which bone stock 4G63 does admirably, but you want to play Honduhboy OMG HP PER LITER PER PSI idiocity, which I want to smack enough of these HT kiddies over already. You sound just like my best friend, another DSMtard like you. You two would probably fall in love and decide you were gay, if you met.
So, where did the lot of you get the idea to run diesel turbos on four cylinder jap crap, anyway? Craziest thing Joey's ever heard...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JalopySiR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
DSM: 210HP @~11? Psi
B16, B18C, B18C5: 160-210HP... N.A.
There's your flow data.</TD></TR></TABLE>
DSM: 210HP @~11? Psi
B16, B18C, B18C5: 160-210HP... N.A.
There's your flow data.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just joined the family and got my HX35 with a Bullseye housing. I got a really great deal on my turbo, Tial wastegate, and Tial BOV from http://www.timsturbos.com. Tim is one of only 8 bullseye dealers in the US.
My experience was so good dealing with him (not the norm, exospeed victim)I am throwing him a plug.
90 EF Hatch
Fully Built LS/V
Holset baby!!
My experience was so good dealing with him (not the norm, exospeed victim)I am throwing him a plug.
90 EF Hatch
Fully Built LS/V
Holset baby!!


