The point I was making is that if you are running 93 octane fuel, you are not running good fuel. One thing that might be worth considering is running a seperate fuel system for the nitrous system. Just a 1 gallon cell, holley blue pump, and holley regulator is all you really need. Then you can at least run good fuel in the cell and pump gas in your primary cell in back.

 

yea, i get what you are saying... odds are i will be running pump gas only when im truly broke... i am a wholesale vp dealer so whenever i can it would be full of c16

but i would keep vp c16 in the 1 gal. cell at all times or whatever... i might just fab my own to sit where the battery used to.

 

Its an awsome way to go. If you are a VP dealer, ya might try scoring some of the nos fuel. I cringe everytime I say the name, but its supposed to be really good stuff. But then again, nothin wrong with running ol' blue either.

 

500 on pump gas is the extreme, i wouldn't dream of trying to spray a 75 shot to get to 600 on pump gas, that's just asking for a meltdown. if you are really into the nitrous, might as well spend the extra cash to add c16 to the tank to get you down the road. hell turbo blue may be enough

my car lives on turbo blue, it comes down to, well 93 octane was 3 bucks a gallon, 110 turbo blue was 4.50. turbo blue it is.

dean, i'm still dreaming of your system

 

let me post my setup for you real quick... for my build it isnt that extreme... if anything its not enough

Block
b18a1 block
darton mid sleeves
84.5mm cp pistons, 9:1 cr
manley rods
acl bearings
knife-edged, micropolished, chamfered and fluted ls crank.. also had the oil gallies drilled, honed and plugged.
fluidampr
golden eagle electric waterpump kit with idler blockoff
ITR Oil Pump
Golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit

Head.
GSR Head
Stage 5 porting and polishing by RPMnyc
Ferrea Valve Guides
Supertech 1mm oversize black nitride coated valves (being replaced)
crower springs and retainers (being replaced)
ITR Cams with AEM Cam Gears (gone)
Ferrea VTEC Killer rocker arms (coming soon)
Custom intake manifold by RMPnyc
75mm Mustang throttle body
Golden Eagle Head Studs

Turbo

Fab-works manifold, downpipe and dumptube
Tial 44mm wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor BOV
PWR FMIC
Custom built garrett gt series turbo

Fuel

complete aeromotive fuel system, pump regulator, etc.
10-an feed line and 6-an return
custom pump pickup system (intank uses stock pickup)
ERL Fuel Rail
Precision 1000cc Injectors

Drivetrain

OS Giken twin disk clutch
Gator Stage 3 Axles
OBX LSD

Electronics

AEM EMS
AEM UEGO Wideband (gauge type)
AEM 3.5bar map sensor
GM Boost control solenoid
GM IAT sensor

 

It cost $15,000 for all that? Yikes, that Honda stuff is pricy. I'm looking at dropping around 10ish for my setup, no turbos or anything fancy but it will be EFI with 3 stages of spray and just a touch more displacement at 9.8L hehe. Probably isn't going to get quite the mileage or diveability that yours does tho.


seen4ever, quit dreaming and buy the damn thing hehe.

 

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looks like the only place you will be going is the SALT FLATS

 

I hit my max speed in 1320', I don't think the extra 4.75 miles would do me much good lol.

 

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dam no sense of humor .....what is wrong w/you guys.


i am still working on the twin turbo'd vagina thing

 

LOL sorry Harv, I was just anticipating the ensuing hatemail for having a pushrod motor and was already on the defense.

 

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well, alot of it was custom made.. intake mani alone was 1200... turbo was custom built... around 1k. port job as around 5k

 

i gotcha back dawg


wantboost lets see some pics of this monster

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...ge=62

near the bottom of the page... stating tomorrow i am stripping and shaving the firewall, hopefully by christmas the motor is in the car

 

i see it...looks really good.gonna look even better when you paint
it like you said.

 

OT: anyone ever heard/used compucar nitrous kits????

 

Compucar kits are basically a NOS knockoff kit marketed by Barry Grant (the worst name in fuel system performance). They never really caught on.

 

im definitely contemplating this... wonder if i could swing most of the fittings and **** for christmas... either that or wilwood front brakes... hrmmm

 

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what do you think about there nozzle design??? I get can a extremely good deal on there direct port kit and i'm wondering if it worth it

 

I've been wondering latley about how well stock cylinder walls handle high shots. I mean with high boost level the presure gets high enough to crack cylinder walls,and with the cylinder pressures nitrous creates, can't that happen just as easily? But damn I've seen some really impressive #'s latley with nitrous or too boost and stock leeves.

Anyones experience with maxing out with stock cylinder walls? But with the rest of the proper work needed for a higher output shot. (rods, pistons, tuning, etc.)

 

They nozzle design is almost a carbon copy of the NOS designs. If it is one of the newer compucar systems it is probably a pretty decent setup. If it is one of the older systems using the "A" nozzles, I wouldn't buy it (unless of course you can get it cheap enough to resell it on Ebay for a profit).

The "A" nozzles are the ones you want to avoid. They are the nozzles with the 45* cutaway "notch" in the end.

 

thanks for the info

 

hell i have ate so much my KIRKY RACING SEAT is for sale
gonna have to get a bigger one.

 

whats the pro's and con's of running a direct port dry kit and using a stand alone to handle all the fueling requirements.

 

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well i know pat musi "i think that is spelled right" if not awh hell w/it.
he did a direct port dry system.....but he is spraying off the line and quite
a bit to i might add.is this a street car or full drag.street car i don't see it
happening,but i could be wrong.now drag car obiviously you are gonna be running something big and spraying out of the hole,or you may have a little shot just
to spool the monster and then spray the dp on top of that.,either way it
is gonna be complicated doing a dry dp set up.i would just do the dp but wet ,it will be so much easier.


harv

 

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well i know pat musi "i think that is spelled right" if not awh hell w/it.
he did a direct port dry system.....but he is spraying off the line and quite
a bit to i might add.is this a street car or full drag.street car i don't see it
happening,but i could be wrong.now drag car obiviously you are gonna be running something big and spraying out of the hole,or you may have a little shot just
to spool the monster and then spray the dp on top of that.,either way it
is gonna be complicated doing a dry dp set up.i would just do the dp but wet ,it will be so much easier.


harv

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thanks, its a street car. i want to add 150 to 200shot to go with my turbo. my turbo is good for 500whp, so instead of buy another turbo, i'm going to put some nitrous on it instead of getting a bigger turbo.