<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ,BJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And show me on paper (draw in MS paint or photoshop) the kind of road/turn where you think your style would be faster/better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Based on their best explanations, here it is:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im sabah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what, it might not apply to you but it might apply to someone else. the thread starter wanted an example of an instance of where it could be effective so i gave my personal feedback</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your personal feedback? Of street-jackassery? Are you taking "circuit times" of these events with proof that its faster? Or are you going on your un-calibrated ***-dyno?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im sabah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good for you guys. i was not responding to anyone when i originally posted, i was just making a statement. i was not talking about track driving but you and rj took it upon yourselves to make what i said part of your argument. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well maybe because at the point you jumped in that is what the discussion was about. Had you read a little beforehand you may have known that. It was a natural assumption for us to think that is what you were talking about since THAT is what we all were discussing and your comments fell right in line with the other guy's (and he was talking about track driving).

Perhaps you should have qualified that a little better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Your personal feedback? Of street-jackassery?
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im sorry im not able to be on the track as much as you - i really do wish i could and i always made a note of asking you or drew for advice on it since you guys are in the area and i had repsect for you but it seems as if you guys are just way to arrogant to ask anything of.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you taking "circuit times" of these events with proof that its faster?
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not circuit times but turn times, yes i have timed it on some occasions and it is faster. also looking at exit speed and entrance speed in relation to set landmarks on the turn.

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Or are you going on your un-calibrated ***-dyno?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that along with the above, and a strong understanding of physics and mathematics.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well maybe because at the point you jumped in that is what the discussion was about. Had you read a little beforehand you may have known that. It was a natural assumption for us to think that is what you were talking about since THAT is what we all were discussing and your comments fell right in line with the other guy's (and he was talking about track driving).

Perhaps you should have qualified that a little better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, i read most of the thread and i was aware of what was being discussed and i even knew i was going to get flamed for saying what i was saying at that time. maybe thats why i felt the need to give so many disclaimers in my first post as to cover my back so everyone wouldnt just jump on my *** but i guess that happened anyways

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im sabah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i always made a note of asking you or drew for advice on it since you guys are in the area</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have never asked me anything in regards to driving. In fact you usually argue with me no matter what it is we are discussing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You have never asked me anything in regards to driving. In fact you usually argue with me no matter what it is we are discussing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i meant i made a note to do it if i ever had the means to go to a track and participate. the situation has not arisen yet. and i dont really recall arguing with you at all... only about scca rules and you just ended up telling me about mustangs and i got interested. i dont really remember talking to you much after that at all. ****, before this thread i thought you had died or soemthing because i hadnt seen you post in months.

 

There are plenty of resources for cheap/free track time.

 

my schedule is mostly the problem. that, and when i do have free time my cars always seem to magically break right as im going to the event or getting ready to.

 

Well if you werent trying to get 600hp out of them, that wouldnt be a problem

 

I think drifting is pretty cool. It also involves alot of skill. For those of you who know nothing of this topic and have just jump on the
DRIFT = M4d R!C3rs y0 bandwangon, take a couple of minutes on google and actually do some of your own research and then take a minute to see if is really worth bashing.

Imagine the adrenilane pumping when you completely lose control of a car going around a sharp turn and then slowly regaining barley preventing a sideways collision into a concrete barrier.

Drifting

o btw PAGE 8 pwN4Ge

http://www.driftshowoff.com/in...drift

 

Then go out and get yourself a 1991 Integra GS and a helmet and leave it at that.

You will be amazed at how much fun you will have, and how much you will learn about driving/car control on track in a stock, underpowered slushbox with no grip.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrmonk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Imagine the adrenilane pumping when you completely lose control of a car going around a sharp turn and then slowly regaining barley preventing a sideways collision into a concrete barrier. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds just like road racing - only slower and without other cars 2" off to the side of you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrmonk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For those of you who know nothing of this topic and have just jump on the
DRIFT = M4d R!C3rs y0 bandwangon, take a couple of minutes on google and actually do some of your own research and then take a minute to see if is really worth bashing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you read the thread, donkey?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Imagine the adrenilane pumping when you completely lose control of a car going around a sharp turn and then slowly regaining barley preventing a sideways collision into a concrete barrier.

Drifting </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're a dolt.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then go out and get yourself a 1991 Integra GS and a helmet and leave it at that.

You will be amazed at how much fun you will have on track in a stock, underpowered slushbox with no grip.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sounds just like road racing - only slower and without other cars 2" off to the side of you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn drew, you are BENT on proving that drifting is the ultimate sux0rs and auto-x is the greatest sport ever.
can't auto-x AND drifting be fun?
isn't having other cars w/in 2" of the side of you part of the rush?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spark plugs. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn drew, you are BENT on proving that drifting is the ultimate sux0rs and auto-x is the greatest sport ever. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not talking about autocrossing Weenus.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can't auto-x AND drifting be fun? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I never said it couldn't. I just said I think drifting is gay and it isn't motorsports - it is ballet.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isn't having other cars w/in 2" of the side of you part of the rush?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes but I am not doing it to win the hearts of the judges and make tha ladieZ moist.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then go out and get yourself a 1991 Integra GS and a helmet and leave it at that.

You will be amazed at how much fun you will have, and how much you will learn about driving/car control on track in a stock, underpowered slushbox with no grip.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the funny thing about this is that that is the exact car i planned on getting...

 

If you want a 2nd gen, then get a 92-93 RS (base model). There's several advantages over the 90-91 and LS/GS models.

 

someone stop this thread plz.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drftwerk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">someone stop this thread plz. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awww . . . does it hurt your feelings to think that people may not like drifting?

Please notice that 2 of the most active participants in this thread hold the power to lock (or unlock) this thread.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want a 2nd gen, then get a 92-93 RS (base model). There's several advantages over the 90-91 and LS/GS models.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont the rs's come with d series motors? what are the advantages ... weight?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drftwerk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">someone stop this thread plz. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why, are you afraid you might actually learn that drifting IS gHEy ...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xumarius &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Whta is exactly the point again? Because it's not like they are racing each other nor there are lap times? What the hell is the point.
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ok here is an example: skating

You have speedskating (a sport), where people race against eachother or against the clock.

You have figureskating (a "sport"), where people perform against eachother for points.

Keyword: PERFORM

to each his own, but that is what it is: a performance, a show, a subjective game.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im sabah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont the rs's come with d series motors? what are the advantages ... weight?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They come with a B18 (non-vtec), they weigh considerably less, no sunroof, and lack all the weighty luxury items of the LS, and GS

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im sabah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont the rs's come with d series motors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No. The motors are the same for all trim levels

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> what are the advantages ... weight?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 92-93 cars had 140hp (vs. 130 for 90-91), OBD1 (more ECU options), more transmission (final drive, clutch/fw, LSD, etc) options and a few other things.

The RS models had less weight (no power options, sunroof, ABS, etc) to carry around.