Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition???
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Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition???
I tried to google the answer all I get is "mAd DrIft y0!!! Import tuner garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage....."
Whta is exactly the point again? Because it's not like they are racing each other nor there are lap times? What the hell is the point.
Ricer Guru's help me!!!!
Whta is exactly the point again? Because it's not like they are racing each other nor there are lap times? What the hell is the point.
Ricer Guru's help me!!!!
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (Xumarius)
as far as i know, it's judged completely on style. of course, the ricer kids have apparently developed a special variant which makes them faster 3x than the normal track guys.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (HXMan)
It's about how well you drift. In the d1 style drift, it about style points. Whether you can hang with somebody, and get in really close. Or how perpendicular you can get the car without losing it, and also how long you can hold the drift.
In Touge style drift, which is downhill, its about racing. The idea is that you can traverse a corner faster in a controlled slide (drift) than with grip racing because you minimize, through drift, the need to hit the brakes and spend more time on the throttle.
In Touge style drift, which is downhill, its about racing. The idea is that you can traverse a corner faster in a controlled slide (drift) than with grip racing because you minimize, through drift, the need to hit the brakes and spend more time on the throttle.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (drftwerk)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drftwerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In Touge style drift, which is downhill, its about racing. The idea is that you can traverse a corner faster in a controlled slide (drift) than with grip racing because you minimize, through drift, the need to hit the brakes and spend more time on the throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats the dumbest thing evAR. A drifter will never beat a regular racers time on an track.
In Touge style drift, which is downhill, its about racing. The idea is that you can traverse a corner faster in a controlled slide (drift) than with grip racing because you minimize, through drift, the need to hit the brakes and spend more time on the throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats the dumbest thing evAR. A drifter will never beat a regular racers time on an track.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (,BJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ,BJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats the dumbest thing evAR. A drifter will never beat a regular racers time on an track.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think you are trying to say drifting will never be faster than racing.
but do you know most of the top drifter from japan are JGTC drivers?
oh yeah, did i mention JGTC?
please think and do your research before putting down wrong info.
do yourself a favor, look at the driver's list
http://www.jgtcusa.net/
i think you are trying to say drifting will never be faster than racing.
but do you know most of the top drifter from japan are JGTC drivers?
oh yeah, did i mention JGTC?
please think and do your research before putting down wrong info.
do yourself a favor, look at the driver's list
http://www.jgtcusa.net/
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (,BJ)
I went to a D1 competition last year and the last 2 cars raced each other through the track with drifting. It was like a catch up race where one person starts in front and the other has to pass him. I thought it was pretty cool.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (2+2=5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2+2=5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i think you are trying to say drifting will never be faster than racing.
but do you know most of the top drifter from japan are JGTC drivers?
oh yeah, did i mention JGTC?
please think and do your research before putting down wrong info.
do yourself a favor, look at the driver's list
http://www.jgtcusa.net/</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do urself a favor, and understand my post first. Jackass. I dont care who is driving the cars, if they are doing it by drifting, it wont be faster than if they were just plain racing. period.
i think you are trying to say drifting will never be faster than racing.
but do you know most of the top drifter from japan are JGTC drivers?
oh yeah, did i mention JGTC?
please think and do your research before putting down wrong info.
do yourself a favor, look at the driver's list
http://www.jgtcusa.net/</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do urself a favor, and understand my post first. Jackass. I dont care who is driving the cars, if they are doing it by drifting, it wont be faster than if they were just plain racing. period.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (,BJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ,BJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats the dumbest thing evAR. A drifter will never beat a regular racers time on an track.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What if the track is dirt or gravel?
Thats the dumbest thing evAR. A drifter will never beat a regular racers time on an track.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What if the track is dirt or gravel?
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (,BJ)
Usually, on most corners in the entire world, drifting will not be the fastest way through the apex.
On a few corners (usually on down hill curves), high-speed drifting is the only fast way to go through the turn. Usually, on these types of turns, if you would grip through them, you would not be as fast as if you would slide through them.
Again, I say, there are not a lot of these.
You guys can call Drifting Rice, or whatever you want, but the main point of drifting is showing how much control you have in a situation where your tires have no grip at all. It's a skill you CANNOT acquire without learning the fundamentals of grip.
The people who can drift their cars, show their superb ability to control a car in it's most unstable state.
call it whatever you want, it is still an impressive, difficult, and fun sport. (Even if it isn't "Real Racing")
On a few corners (usually on down hill curves), high-speed drifting is the only fast way to go through the turn. Usually, on these types of turns, if you would grip through them, you would not be as fast as if you would slide through them.
Again, I say, there are not a lot of these.
You guys can call Drifting Rice, or whatever you want, but the main point of drifting is showing how much control you have in a situation where your tires have no grip at all. It's a skill you CANNOT acquire without learning the fundamentals of grip.
The people who can drift their cars, show their superb ability to control a car in it's most unstable state.
call it whatever you want, it is still an impressive, difficult, and fun sport. (Even if it isn't "Real Racing")
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (The HamsterBall)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The HamsterBall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Usually, on most corners in the entire world, drifting will not be the fastest way through the apex.
On a few corners (usually on down hill curves), high-speed drifting is the only fast way to go through the turn. Usually, on these types of turns, if you would grip through them, you would not be as fast as if you would slide through them.
Again, I say, there are not a lot of these.
You guys can call Drifting Rice, or whatever you want, but the main point of drifting is showing how much control you have in a situation where your tires have no grip at all. It's a skill you CANNOT acquire without learning the fundamentals of grip.
The people who can drift their cars, show their superb ability to control a car in it's most unstable state.
call it whatever you want, it is still an impressive, difficult, and fun sport. (Even if it isn't "Real Racing")</TD></TR></TABLE>
What corners would you be talking about? I have yet to see any F1 racers, NASA, or hell...ANy professional racers of any type other than 'drifters' actually drift a corner. I can assure you, if it was faster real racers would be doing it.
On a few corners (usually on down hill curves), high-speed drifting is the only fast way to go through the turn. Usually, on these types of turns, if you would grip through them, you would not be as fast as if you would slide through them.
Again, I say, there are not a lot of these.
You guys can call Drifting Rice, or whatever you want, but the main point of drifting is showing how much control you have in a situation where your tires have no grip at all. It's a skill you CANNOT acquire without learning the fundamentals of grip.
The people who can drift their cars, show their superb ability to control a car in it's most unstable state.
call it whatever you want, it is still an impressive, difficult, and fun sport. (Even if it isn't "Real Racing")</TD></TR></TABLE>
What corners would you be talking about? I have yet to see any F1 racers, NASA, or hell...ANy professional racers of any type other than 'drifters' actually drift a corner. I can assure you, if it was faster real racers would be doing it.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (W O T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by W O T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Says the man trying to buy a 240 specifically for this purpose and wants our approval for this cool sport</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm buying a 240 for other reasons as well.
You don't have to approve this cool sport. Everybody has their disagreements/annoyances with different sports. I.e. I hate baseball, I can't watch the damn game without changing the channel, or walking out of the stadium. That's just my opinion, yet everybody still sits down to watch.
I don't have any problems with others enjoying their hobbies/entertainment.
They aren't asking for my approval, and I'm not asking for anybody else's.
You could bitch about it as much as you want.
Oh, and I'm buying the 240, because I love the damn car. For my $2000-less budget, this is the car that has all the things I would want in a car (For that price range).
It's FUN to drive (i'm young, that's what i'm about), there isn't really a risk in the reliability of the stock KA24E engine (as long as you don't buy a fucked up car), the thing looks pretty sleek (for my taste), and there is of course alot of aftermarket support for it as well.
I plan on using the car for Auto-X, canyon fun (grip), and MAYBE (probably not) some drifting.
Who says I'm buying it SPECIFICALLY FOR DRIFTING?
It's people that have close minds like you that don't see things in the larger view.
Who knows what thoughts people like you have?
You may think of DRIFTING, when somebody mentions the word 240SX.
You may think of TERRORIST, when somebody mentions the word muslim.
etc..
I think you just need to lighten up about the the whole subject and have a beer or something.
I'm buying a 240 for other reasons as well.
You don't have to approve this cool sport. Everybody has their disagreements/annoyances with different sports. I.e. I hate baseball, I can't watch the damn game without changing the channel, or walking out of the stadium. That's just my opinion, yet everybody still sits down to watch.
I don't have any problems with others enjoying their hobbies/entertainment.
They aren't asking for my approval, and I'm not asking for anybody else's.
You could bitch about it as much as you want.
Oh, and I'm buying the 240, because I love the damn car. For my $2000-less budget, this is the car that has all the things I would want in a car (For that price range).
It's FUN to drive (i'm young, that's what i'm about), there isn't really a risk in the reliability of the stock KA24E engine (as long as you don't buy a fucked up car), the thing looks pretty sleek (for my taste), and there is of course alot of aftermarket support for it as well.
I plan on using the car for Auto-X, canyon fun (grip), and MAYBE (probably not) some drifting.
Who says I'm buying it SPECIFICALLY FOR DRIFTING?
It's people that have close minds like you that don't see things in the larger view.
Who knows what thoughts people like you have?
You may think of DRIFTING, when somebody mentions the word 240SX.
You may think of TERRORIST, when somebody mentions the word muslim.
etc..
I think you just need to lighten up about the the whole subject and have a beer or something.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (,BJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ,BJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What corners would you be talking about? I have yet to see any F1 racers, NASA, or hell...ANy professional racers of any type other than 'drifters' actually drift a corner. I can assure you, if it was faster real racers would be doing it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do NASA, F1, or any Professional <U>Racers</U> ever go on canyon roads where in rare cases they have turns to drift?
No. They all stay on the track (where I don't think there is a single turn to drift for lower lap times).
*Notice the underline. I don't really think of D1 drivers as Racers.
If you read my whole post, you would see that I mentioned that MOST turns are not accomplished faster with drifting, and there are a FEW, RARE, turns that are in SOME DOWNHILL CURVES in which HIGH-SPEED-DRIFTING is more effective.
Do NASA, F1, or any Professional <U>Racers</U> ever go on canyon roads where in rare cases they have turns to drift?
No. They all stay on the track (where I don't think there is a single turn to drift for lower lap times).
*Notice the underline. I don't really think of D1 drivers as Racers.
If you read my whole post, you would see that I mentioned that MOST turns are not accomplished faster with drifting, and there are a FEW, RARE, turns that are in SOME DOWNHILL CURVES in which HIGH-SPEED-DRIFTING is more effective.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (The HamsterBall)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drftwerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In Touge style drift, which is downhill, its about racing. The idea is that you can traverse a corner faster in a controlled slide (drift) than with grip racing because you minimize, through drift, the need to hit the brakes and spend more time on the throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The HamsterBall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a few corners (usually on down hill curves), high-speed drifting is the only fast way to go through the turn. Usually, on these types of turns, if you would grip through them, you would not be as fast as if you would slide through them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ,BJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats the dumbest thing evAR. A drifter will never beat a regular racers time on an track </TD></TR></TABLE>
In DOWNHILL, drifting is faster. Read the quote before you start posting obnoxious replies.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (Xumarius)
Purposely "losing" control of your car at high speeds on a canyon road probably late at night with know one around, cmon guys, itll be fun
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (W O T)
Losing control on a canyon road late at night with no one around?
Are we talking about drifting? Or are we digressing to canyon drifters?
Bleh.. oh well.
You don't see me making fun of EG's, EK's and Integras running around GMR and losing control by understeering, and sliding off the side of the canyon, now do you?
Nope.. you don't. Because I don't comment on other people's decisions.
Well, for street racing, it's kind of a sensitive matter. I won't go into that.
But yeah.. Have a an E-
Are we talking about drifting? Or are we digressing to canyon drifters?
Bleh.. oh well.
You don't see me making fun of EG's, EK's and Integras running around GMR and losing control by understeering, and sliding off the side of the canyon, now do you?
Nope.. you don't. Because I don't comment on other people's decisions.
Well, for street racing, it's kind of a sensitive matter. I won't go into that.
But yeah.. Have a an E-
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (drftwerk)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drftwerk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In DOWNHILL, drifting is faster. Read the quote before you start posting obnoxious replies. </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you have experience with this? If im wrong, PROVE it.
In DOWNHILL, drifting is faster. Read the quote before you start posting obnoxious replies.
</TD></TR></TABLE>do you have experience with this? If im wrong, PROVE it.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (,BJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In DOWNHILL, drifting is faster.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I suggest posting that in the Road Racing forum, where people's experience lies out side japanese cartoons,.
I suggest posting that in the Road Racing forum, where people's experience lies out side japanese cartoons,.
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Re: Question.... WTF is the point of a drift competition??? (drftwerk)
Trying to grip race a downhill turn is not benficial in that trying to brake and take the turn at the same time puts too much front load on the front tires, thus minimizing grip and overall attitiude of the car. This CAN result in understeer. With drift, the attitude of the car adjusts the inertia of the car taking the load off the front tires, and more to the side of the car facing the turn. And because you are the throttle most of the time, wieght is mostly situated to the rear.