This was posted in the ITR forum. This AE86 is wicked. If it were a comp. This 8E86 vs. an ITR. The ITR would get owned hardcore. No ITR can handle a corner at that speed or radius. And I love my R but come on. http://c-racing.web.infoseek.c...2.wmv

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DAsix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This was posted in the ITR forum. This AE86 is wicked. If it were a comp. This 8E86 vs. an ITR. The ITR would get owned hardcore. No ITR can handle a corner at that speed or radius. And I love my R but come on. http://c-racing.web.infoseek.c...2.wmv</TD></TR></TABLE>

And no track has a corner with a radius like that unless it is designed for go-karts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drftwerk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any type of racing costs lots of money. Racing in general is not cheap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

YES. Any type of racing DOES cost money. Drifting is NOT racing, its just a waiste of money, gas and tires, while some frilly judges awards you on how "fancy" you drag your *** around.

 

My neighbor's dog has worms. It drags its *** all over the place. I guess he is drifting too . . .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My neighbor's dog has worms. It drags its *** all over the place. I guess he is drifting too . . . </TD></TR></TABLE>

You should bring him a trophy.

 

man whats wrong with you people.. why are you so angry and threatened by what other people want to do .. If they want to work hard to and spend there money on tires then let them .. you lame ***** cry when a car is riced out, you cry when they fly by, you cry when they drift, you cry when there faster than you, you cry when its nice, you cry when its stock. good lord . grow up. most of you sorry ***'s that posted this **** still live at home with your mommy anyway, so dont worry about what other people want to do with the cash. If you have a ounce of ****** initiative or will to succeed then you would get out there, learn it and start making money off it so you can build your drag car that much better.

fawkin over. maybe we should move this to "kills". maturity level may suit this thread a little better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThatRicerDaniel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man whats wrong with you people.. why are you so angry and threatened by what other people want to do</TD></TR></TABLE>

How does "I dont like it" = "threatened" ?

I dont give a **** what someone wants to do with their time and money - and they're allowed to have their opinion as well. This is the land of opportunity. If they are into making amateur bestiality and scat films, thats just peachy. I dont like it, and I dont want to see it (NIMBY). They probably thing that we are stupid for driving around in circles in DE's wasting tires, brake pads, gas, one mis-shift away from blowing our motors to the moon.

I will watch drifting if its there but I'm not going out of my way to see it.... just my opinion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThatRicerDaniel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man whats wrong with you people.. why are you so angry and threatened by what other people want to do .. If they want to work hard to and spend there money on tires then let them.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Who says they cant? Threatened? I think its totally lame and waste of time, thats why I do not paticipate in it. If you think its actually a worthwhile way to spend your time, go do it. That does not mean my opinion changes on drifting. No one is angry or threatened. Have you even read this thread?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you lame ***** cry when a car is riced out, you cry when they fly by, you cry when they drift, you cry when there faster than you, you cry when its nice, you cry when its stock. good lord . grow up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What? What are you doing? You are bitching and crying because several people have an opinion that drifting is retarded. Because we did not post comments like "drifting is awesome!" we are crying? You are the only one crying in this thread.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most of you sorry ***'s that posted this **** still live at home with your mommy anyway, so dont worry about what other people want to do with the cash. If you have a ounce of ****** initiative or will to succeed then you would get out there, learn it and start making money off it so you can build your drag car that much better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wait, so I am supposed to go learn how to drift, go participate in drifting, win at drifting, to save money for a drag car?

1) I dont have a drag car. I have a wrx that is going to be a car for weekends and track days. I have a honda for daily use.
2) I am not 17. I work fulltime for a software company.
3) I would have to buy a RWD car, set it up for drifting, then win ____# of events to pay for the car I had to buy to compete just to break even, never mind actually make it profitable.
4) It would take a tremendous amount of time to make it profitable, all the while I would not be participating in motorsports that I actually enjoy.

So tell me again how your point makes any sense at all, because from where I am sitting, it makes zero.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fawkin over. maybe we should move this to "kills". maturity level may suit this thread a little better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The only one crying and pointing fingers and acting like a child is you. Read the thread.

 

But Nick you are forgetting "drifting" along with owning a 240sx oh sorry; a silvia is the next bandwagon....jeesh

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Read the thread, donkey.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fixed that for you.

 

Can't people just appreciate drifting for what it is. Just people showing their skills and control in a car. Drifting shows are just for entertainment. It's just like watching the Blue Angels or Firebirds, yeah pilots don't normally fly like that, but they are just showing off their skills with a jet. Just becuase its an event with a car doesn't mean it always has to be a race. You don't go to an airshow bitching that they haven't bombed **** or shot down another plane.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DINO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't go to an airshow bitching that they haven't bombed **** or shot down another plane.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe thats what should happen to the losers

 

Idiots.

Drifting is often criticized for not being "the fast way of driving". But, if you are a drifter, you know that is not the intention. Drifting, is a style of driving. It is the perfect balance of car control. It takes great concentration, understanding, and reaction speed.

Idiots.

Ill be back after lunch and explained it to all of you dolts

 

We already went over this.

You're 3 days late.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRUENOCOUPE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ill be back after lunch and explained it to all of you dolts</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please dont.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRUENOCOUPE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Idiots.

Drifting is often criticized for not being "the fast way of driving". But, if you are a drifter, you know that is not the intention. Drifting, is a style of driving. It is the perfect balance of car control. It takes great concentration, understanding, and reaction speed.

Idiots.

Ill be back after lunch and explained it to all of you dolts</TD></TR></TABLE>

We already know that. Its the same thing as figure skating in terms of real world significance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DINO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't people just appreciate drifting for what it is. Just people showing their skills and control in a car. Drifting shows are just for entertainment. It's just like watching the Blue Angels or Firebirds, yeah pilots don't normally fly like that, but they are just showing off their skills with a jet. Just becuase its an event with a car doesn't mean it always has to be a race. You don't go to an airshow bitching that they haven't bombed **** or shot down another plane.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You make a PERFECT point, some of those planes are built to seek and destroy, but you dont see them blowing **** up. Correct.

But you also dont see some asswipe judge give him points on how well he stuck his hand out of the cockpit while he banked for a left turn.....

Thats the real difference. Its changes from mere entertainment, when people try to turn it into a real "racing competition" ....

But the japanese are smart, and you just dont see it. They can make millions of dollars off of something so stupid, because these dumb american kids will jump on any hot fad of the week.

"Fads come and go, REAL motorsports, will always stay the same"

In a few years, drifting will be a joke, much like the ricer **** of the F&F years ....

And you will surely be humping on the next big &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

 

This is an example of PISSED OFF TUNER. Not Ricer but Pissed off Tuner.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you a pissed off tuner...?

Its simple, ive seen all kind of people in the import/tuning scene but one group of people seems to dominate most of the scene, the pissed off tuner. The pissed off tuner shrugs when you mention a nice car, and makes comments like "oh he just has money thats nothing special". The pissed off tuner also says "i dont like those wheels" but if they were on his car they would be the sh*t. The pissed off tuner critisizes every car except his own and his friends, the pissed off tuner will never accept he lost, whether his car wasnt running right, he had is a/c on or he has rod knock in his rx7. The pissed off tuner is not rice with his shop stickers, but those with shop stickers are rice to the pissed off tuner. The pissed off tuner goes to car events and critisizes the way it was organized and how parking was set up, because the pissed off tuner can do a better job. The pissed off tuner will have nos but but will still remaim all motor turbo. The pissed off tuner will have a well setup car, but his car will understeer because of the poor setup. The pissed off tuner will swear his make and model is the best, until he gets a new car and realizes he was all wrong and his new car & make then takes its place. I say these people are pissed off tuners because they always walk around on the defense, you see them everywhere, they always seem upset about other peoples cars, if your team wins its because you got lucky on the last pass, if the pissed off tuner's team wins its because of hard work dedication and good driver. Do you know any pissed off tuners?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let see.. 10 years ago we had the very first Drifting Comp in the US. That was very very small. 2-4 years after we had Speedtrial USA/ Club4ag hosting small drift events. 4-6 After the drifting is bigger than ever. D1GP came to US. Formula D/SCCA made a drifting comp. all over the US. Every week someone is hosting a Drifting Event. Now JGTC (might not be drifting) is coming to US. Drift Day (driftday.com) is hosting events every month.

It will never go away cause us real enthusiast is here to stay. Wether you like it or not. Everyone always doubted that drifting will never be as big in Japan but we are almost there.

It will go away? Yeah right....

CALI BIGGEST DRIFT EVENTS - http://www.driftday.com
Driver Search for the biggest DRIFTING EVENT - http://www.d1gp.com/
Canada Drifting Events - http://www.vancouverdrifters.org/
Washington DC Events - http://www.driftshowoff.com/
Hawaii Drifting Events - http://www.driftsession.com/
Houston, TX - http://www.driftnation.com
New Jersey - East Coast Events - http://www.dgtrials.com/events.html
VA - http://www.godrift.biz/lktevents.htm

Everyone is just pissed off cause Drifting is getting more attention than ever.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRUENOCOUPE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everyone is just pissed off cause Drifting is getting more attention than ever.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like you are the one that is pissed off.

 

aww RJ is not getting any attention.

Why don't you write a whole essay again to SCCA of how DRIFTING is not a RACE.

hahahahhaha

Its ok RJ. Honda can still drift. You should try it out.

 

I used to see Altezzas EVERYWHERE. They were the coolest thing anyone had seen. The same people buying those are the same people making drifting such a big deal. The reason it is all over the place every month is because the same people that realized Altezzas =profit have moved onto the equation of drifting = profit.

AND THAT TUNER **** PISSES ME OFF. 1 out of 50,000 people who modify cars has a clue about tuning one.

 

Whats up Truenocoupe! Its Matt... ( black S14, Speed Monkey )

I used to drive an Integra. I had the car for 4 years, autoxing the car the whole time I owned it. Then it got stolen. That was almost three years ago. I have had my 240SX nearly two and a half years. I started autoxing the car the same week I got it, crappy all season tires and all.
Being a part of the 240sx community, naturally drifting was everywhere. So I signed up for a drift day just to see what it was all about. Wow, you have no idea how much fun I had that day. I was hooked!
That I think is what drifting is all about. Sure its about car control as well. But mostly about fun. All you nay-sayers; why are you into cars? Why do you race? Is it to beat other people? Just about bragging right to say I was faster than who ever? Don't know about you people but I race because I LOVE it! It is the most fun thing I can think of! I like going fast, I race karts, I like driving mountain roads ( no, not touge, just driving ) when I was a kid I bombed hills on bikes, roller blades, skate boards, even shopping carts. I just like going fast.
Drifting is not racing. Drifting is NOT the fastest way around the track. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they are talking about. I know because I drift and grip. My lap times have come down a lot because of the skills I learn from drifting, and my drifting gets better from knowing the right way around a race track. I can push harder and take more agressive lines now. So what is the point of a drift compition? What is the point of a free style motocross compition? BMX, Skatebording... you name it. Nobody is going faster than anyone else, so what does it matter? Its about style, and skill. You get judged on Speed, Line, and Angle.
Yes drifting is in the spot light right now. Sorry, these things happen. Why do you suppose Hondas are so popular? Because a fad caught on. Damn you guys have a short memory. Look at the early 90s when people where starting to modify FWD compacts and bring them to the drag strip and out to the street drags. The domestic guys just LAUGHED. Tiny motors, FWD, no way. They also got mad. Just like all ignorant people do when they don't understand something, or dislike something so much for what ever their reasons. Then the whole thing got big. Guess who is mad now? All the guys who have been doing it already, thats who. Its not their underground deal anymore. The media is on it, the cops are on street racing, magazines pop up, companies jump in and start making parts, ******* APC ****** out plastic garbage.....Then Fast and the Furious comes out and EVERYBODY is pissed because now Hollywood is the pimp whoring out your thing, what you are into.

Stuff it.

Do you like having 3 brands of high quality parts to choose from the next mod you want on your car? Forget about the sea of low quality cheap stuff, and ebay no brand stuff. Think about that. High quality requires research and development. R&D requires money. If there where not hella people buying parts for these popular cars and popular motorsports, there would be no money funding the engineering required to produce a race worthy suspension, or brake kit, or cam shafts. So next time you start pissing on about this bandwagon or that, think about the nice parts you have on your car. If hella other people didn't want the same parts for the same racing you do, you would just have to go and figure out how to make it yourself.

As with all fads, drifting will come and go. The enthusiasts will stay behind and it will be theirs again. Have fun driving!

 

drifting is showing more skills then a dragster. anyone can drag race. but drift race, not even a beginner can do it on wet surface.

drifing is all over magazines because its a new style of race thats been brought over from japan...

drifting

 

i agree with wizzards.. honestly.. if u'r gonna rag on any form of racing why not make it drag racing? all u basically do is learn how to shift and control the car in a straight line.. i'm not sayin that's easy but it doesn't exactly require that much skill..

i was too lazy to read through the entire thread so i don't know if anyone has said this yet but drifting takes more skill and technique than street racers, drag racers, or freeway racers. Auto X and drifting require the most skill hands down. And yes gripping is faster than drifting.. SOMETIMES.. i think on the first page someone was talkin about Touge racing.. and whatever he said was completely true.

Btw.. zilvia.net forums r gettin a good laugh outta this thread..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drift_lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iif u'r gonna rag on any form of racing why not make it drag racing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Drifting isn't actual racing, you mental midget.

 

downhill drift time attacks is considered racing you asswipe.