H2B Shifting Problems
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Re: (turboedsupe)
Originally Posted by turboedsupe
So when you put it into gear is it a little stiff feeling? This is weird that yours will go into gear at all. I mean mines wont even go into gear at all with either forks i wonder what i should do now??
Modified by powerofdreams8 at 4:53 PM 11/15/2008
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Well that right there rules out the next idea from evolution. They next started thinking the PP might be to stiff, but if its happening with oem as well then that cant be. Well ill be calling them monday maybe i can take my car there to be inspected by there team and figure this problem out
i hope its figured out before spring, im getting more fed up of this car day by day with these tranny issues
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Re: (turboedsupe)
Originally Posted by turboedsupe
Well that right there rules out the next idea from evolution. They next started thinking the PP might be to stiff, but if its happening with oem as well then that cant be. Well ill be calling them monday maybe i can take my car there to be inspected by there team and figure this problem out
I think if they fiddle a little more with that new adapter they will get it. Cause honestly it shift a lot better but still not 100%.
EVO PLEASE HELP!
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So it still wants to move with the clutch fully deppressed? Its still hard to shift and would grind at high rpm's right? This is going to be a reference for when i call them tomorrow. brownkid- you think you could post pics of the fork/slave with the clutch out and in? I would like to compare it to mine
That thing looks kinda like the QSD slave cylinder adapter. Do you use the factory b series trans fork with this setup?
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I have been running an EVO kit for almost a year. I track the car and rape it on the streets.... NEVER had an issue.
I would suggest is to check the runnout at crank.
I have seen cranks crack, warp, and flex. This would cause the flywheel to "wobble" thus not allowing it to fully disengage. It happened to us during a filming of PINKS, forceing use to drop out of the show.
Bisi can vouch for this, we tried 5 different clutch options....With th clutch pedel pressed in, the highest the car would rev was about 5k. Then the RPMs would have to drop way down between shifts in order to engage the next gear.
Exedy, SPEC, CC, CM, and ACTION clutches....Some singles, some twin disks.
Finally we found the "wobble"....Upon teardown we discovered a cracked crank...
This was in 2poin6's All Motor Drag Civic....Granted it isnt H2B, but I dont see a difference.
I would suggest is to check the runnout at crank.
I have seen cranks crack, warp, and flex. This would cause the flywheel to "wobble" thus not allowing it to fully disengage. It happened to us during a filming of PINKS, forceing use to drop out of the show.
Bisi can vouch for this, we tried 5 different clutch options....With th clutch pedel pressed in, the highest the car would rev was about 5k. Then the RPMs would have to drop way down between shifts in order to engage the next gear.
Exedy, SPEC, CC, CM, and ACTION clutches....Some singles, some twin disks.
Finally we found the "wobble"....Upon teardown we discovered a cracked crank...
This was in 2poin6's All Motor Drag Civic....Granted it isnt H2B, but I dont see a difference.
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I have been running an EVO kit for almost a year. I track the car and rape it on the streets.... NEVER had an issue.
I would suggest is to check the runnout at crank.
I have seen cranks crack, warp, and flex. This would cause the flywheel to "wobble" thus not allowing it to fully disengage. It happened to us during a filming of PINKS, forceing use to drop out of the show.
Bisi can vouch for this, we tried 5 different clutch options....With th clutch pedel pressed in, the highest the car would rev was about 5k. Then the RPMs would have to drop way down between shifts in order to engage the next gear.
Exedy, SPEC, CC, CM, and ACTION clutches....Some singles, some twin disks.
Finally we found the "wobble"....Upon teardown we discovered a cracked crank...
This was in 2poin6's All Motor Drag Civic....Granted it isnt H2B, but I dont see a difference.
I would suggest is to check the runnout at crank.
I have seen cranks crack, warp, and flex. This would cause the flywheel to "wobble" thus not allowing it to fully disengage. It happened to us during a filming of PINKS, forceing use to drop out of the show.
Bisi can vouch for this, we tried 5 different clutch options....With th clutch pedel pressed in, the highest the car would rev was about 5k. Then the RPMs would have to drop way down between shifts in order to engage the next gear.
Exedy, SPEC, CC, CM, and ACTION clutches....Some singles, some twin disks.
Finally we found the "wobble"....Upon teardown we discovered a cracked crank...
This was in 2poin6's All Motor Drag Civic....Granted it isnt H2B, but I dont see a difference.
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ok sorry i posted what happend in the other thread but due to the update i guess its gone. So we installed the stock fork and the new adapter. And with the old kit at around 6-6500 when you were in first gear with the clutch all the down (ie launching) the clutch would try to engage on its own. So the first thing i did was check that. Well it no longer goes that at 6-6500 but it does it at around 75-7700 which is my first indication that the problem is still not100% fixed. It was raining the first couple of day but i finally got to go through the gears and the car does shift at high rpm BUT there is resistance ie it doesnt do it smoothly. So my conclusion is the new adapter did help but its still not 100%. If evo works on that adapter i think they mite get it.
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Well i dropped the car off at evo today and right off the back we figured out the problem, well kinda. If you look at the two pics in this thread you can see what im saying https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2335536 When i was looking at these pics my eyes were focused more on the slave but if you look at the fork position you can see why one works and the other doesnt. When i got to there shop and looked at a car there there fork was sitting towards the passenger side and mine was straight or almost leaning towards the driver side. Now they are still working on addressing the cause of this but its either my clutch PP or the flywheels is too far spaced from the motor. Hopefully i will know more monday when they inspect everything
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Do yourself a favor and buy the QSD kit. EVO customer service blows. I was missing the engine side mount. After 3 days and a half dozen phone calls between them and the company i bought the kit from, EVO basically called me a liar, saying it was almost impossible for it to be missing. However, they agreed to send me the missing piece, i asked them to overnight it since their mistake has already put me behind. They tell me no and that it will go out ASAP. Took them almost a week to ship it.
Anyways...back on topic
Anyways...back on topic
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They took the tranny out already and on monday will be comparing and measuring the flywheel and PP thats on my car. Something is making the throwout bearing sit too far in towards the tranny. The PP could be too tall or the flywheel could be spaced to far from the motor only time will tell. Ill keep you guys posted
LudeSH- sorry you had problems with evo but for me there customer service has been great. I mean everytime i have called i recieved calls back following up and now they are working on my car to fix this problem. Most companies would tell you to **** off but thats not the case. Why would i buy the qsd kit? I dont want it, personally i dont like the way the motor sits and didnt want to do all these little mods to make it fit
LudeSH- sorry you had problems with evo but for me there customer service has been great. I mean everytime i have called i recieved calls back following up and now they are working on my car to fix this problem. Most companies would tell you to **** off but thats not the case. Why would i buy the qsd kit? I dont want it, personally i dont like the way the motor sits and didnt want to do all these little mods to make it fit
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They took the tranny out already and on monday will be comparing and measuring the flywheel and PP thats on my car. Something is making the throwout bearing sit too far in towards the tranny. The PP could be too tall or the flywheel could be spaced to far from the motor only time will tell. Ill keep you guys posted
LudeSH- sorry you had problems with evo but for me there customer service has been great. I mean everytime i have called i recieved calls back following up and now they are working on my car to fix this problem. Most companies would tell you to **** off but thats not the case. Why would i buy the qsd kit? I dont want it, personally i dont like the way the motor sits and didnt want to do all these little mods to make it fit
LudeSH- sorry you had problems with evo but for me there customer service has been great. I mean everytime i have called i recieved calls back following up and now they are working on my car to fix this problem. Most companies would tell you to **** off but thats not the case. Why would i buy the qsd kit? I dont want it, personally i dont like the way the motor sits and didnt want to do all these little mods to make it fit
The suggestion to go with qsd was for the post above mine, i think the mods deleted it though.
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Anyone try using a D series pivot in B series trans? They are shorter and in the picture above it would help space the the clutch fork away from the slave. That slave cyl piston is bottomed out and wont work properly.
Am I the only one seeing a MASSIVE difference here?
Maybe it's just me, but in the last pic it doesn't look as though, even at max throw on the slave, that it would push the release fork far enough??
(and for the lazy buggers like me)
Maybe it's just me, but in the last pic it doesn't look as though, even at max throw on the slave, that it would push the release fork far enough??
(and for the lazy buggers like me)
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Their customer service is horrible. Had a problem and they just gave me the run around.
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Why are you posting complaints about the customer service in our shifting problems thread? If you really want to cry about it start your own thread 2step
Brownkid-No wonder yours goes into gear it looks way better then mines at stand still. Yours is almost straight on have you tried adjusting the clutch pedal and taking all the play out of it??
Clayton- I think the main difference your seeing is the last pic has a stock b series fork with their revised slave adapter. You can kinda see it but they mounted the slave at an angle with the fork so when its fully out it is straight on. Hopefully i will have another update today maybe they figured it out already
Brownkid-No wonder yours goes into gear it looks way better then mines at stand still. Yours is almost straight on have you tried adjusting the clutch pedal and taking all the play out of it??
Clayton- I think the main difference your seeing is the last pic has a stock b series fork with their revised slave adapter. You can kinda see it but they mounted the slave at an angle with the fork so when its fully out it is straight on. Hopefully i will have another update today maybe they figured it out already
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The setup I am working on looks just like brownkids; slave fully comressed, arm sitting similar too. This car won't go in gear at all though. So any news from bisi on your car turboedsupe? I am really ready to get this done, contemplating throwing a cable trans on this... Anyone using a cable trans with the H2B kit?