H2B Shifting Problems
There putting it back together tomorrow and trying it out. I will keep this thread updated as i receive info from them. Also this is Evo working on my car not Bisi just to clear that up
Ok turbo any word on whats going on?
u know whats messed brownkid your car ran better before doing an h2b , i remmeber the gears always going in on your car at the track, i hope we get an answer from turbo , two thubs up for always keeping us posted
u know whats messed brownkid your car ran better before doing an h2b , i remmeber the gears always going in on your car at the track, i hope we get an answer from turbo , two thubs up for always keeping us posted
ralph actually brought up a good point, why not just slap in a cable tranny and convert our cars to cable
im going to take pics of my shitbox tonight and take some pics the way it looks on a stock b16car
im going to take pics of my shitbox tonight and take some pics the way it looks on a stock b16car
Last edited by fukenricen; Nov 25, 2008 at 04:31 PM.
sorry guys im in california visiting family. i havent got a chance to speak to evo as they have been closed. all i know as of now is they said they got it working and shifting smooth. i am picking it up first thing monday and am going to have them explain to me what they did and make sure it shifts fine at high rpms and doesnt creep on the line. so you car works fine right fukenricen??
nope i kept going threw 2nd gears for some odd reason before and never thought about the kit, so i replaced all syncrols and noticed the same issue as you guys where its locked out completely , new slave,master,clutch and pressure plate is mint, and the car was bled right, really pissed off to tell you the truth because i was about to purchase the other h2b kit.
Tony, maybe I'm on the wrong path here, but has anyone ever bothered to measure how far the fork needs to travel in order to fully disengage the clutch? and then inversely checked the max throw on the slave? Looking at your pictures, it looks as though the slave is misaligned, and even at max throw wouldn't be able to move the fork enough to fully disengage the clutch. but that's just my eye
your absolutely right that must be the cause of the issue and that is why they keep playing with the bracket. honestly i think the best thing to do is compare it to a qsd or stock setup
Kits going for sale this weekend! If i dont hear from evo.
ITR tranny rebuild $200
+B16tranny $600 plus rebuild $200
+ITR tranny second rebuild $200
+New Master/Slave from honda
+New Clutch
=QSD FTW!!!!!
ITR tranny rebuild $200
+B16tranny $600 plus rebuild $200
+ITR tranny second rebuild $200
+New Master/Slave from honda
+New Clutch
=QSD FTW!!!!!
hate to say it, but maybe the past problems took a toll on the syncros causing the shifting problem? unless this has already been addressed, you might want to take a gander inside the tranny to see if anything is out of the ordinary. just my 2 cents.....
All i have to say is **** EVO!! I get there pick up my car and everything is shifting alright. Drove it down the freeway for about 60 miles normal driving then got off to grab a bite to eat. After i ate and went to take off my car would not go into gear. I called them and they said they would not work on it again and i was basically ****ed being stuck 300 miles from home with no way of getting there. That is unacceptable in my opinion. They for some reason believe it cant be anything with there kit and it has to be my clutch or tranny. My tranny was inspected and rebuilt by a very reputable guy here in Phx (Tage Evanson) and i trust him fully. If it was my tranny why would it go in gear with the car off? The clutch is not disengaging if i start it with the clutch pressed fully in and the car in first it will lung forward obviously that means the clutch is not disengaging. Then they say well it must be the clutch, my brand new competition clutch that has been proven for years. Highly doubt thats the problem. Now my car is home and i dont know where to go from here. Why would it go into gear fine and the clutch work when its cold but after things warm up the problems start? Tranny fluid is full and brand new.
Also if this is a clutch/flywheel issue i dont think converting to cable is going to help anything. I mean all of our hydro systems are working properly its just the clutch/flywheel is not
you said it drove fine when you picked it up and now it wont go into gear.
it sounds like it lost hydro pressure to me.
nothing is physically going to change w/ the clutch or flywheel within a few minutes to cause that.
or it could possibly be since you got some heat in the trans from driving it, it now acts up like it was doing before. this would be internal problems w/ syncros, sliders and so forth.
how long ago was the trans inspected? have you missed alot of shifts since then??
it sounds like it lost hydro pressure to me.
nothing is physically going to change w/ the clutch or flywheel within a few minutes to cause that.
or it could possibly be since you got some heat in the trans from driving it, it now acts up like it was doing before. this would be internal problems w/ syncros, sliders and so forth.
how long ago was the trans inspected? have you missed alot of shifts since then??
my tranny was inspected right before install and once it was in the car started locking me out of 2nd, this is the 3rd tranny locking me out of 2nd
whats the best way of getting a hold of qsd?
i have 3guys looking for h2b
whats the best way of getting a hold of qsd?
i have 3guys looking for h2b
well my luck must be alot better than i thought because i havent had any problems all year and my car is strictly drag.
maybe evo should hire me as their poster car/driver
if one of you guys are willing to send me your clutch and flywheel i will tell you if they are the culprit or not.
who knows maybe the kit simply works better w/ one brand clutch vs. another brand. every brand is different and it may be that small difference which is the straw to break the camels back, so to speak.
i will tell you guys this, alot of us have had problems w/ the comp clutch in the past for stock b and h series. they DO cause the car to creep, which means they are not fully disengaging to begin with, and they DO cause shifting issues, then add in the h2b and the problem may be even worse. their twin disk is better but even that requires the install of a clutch stop
im getting ready to pull my motor/trans for the winter. if you guys send me your clutches i will tell you if they are infact the problem. you can also send me your flywheels and i will check them against mine for spec. i will do this for free to help you guys out, but you guys will pay for shipping both ways obviously.
if we can determine the problem to be that the kit only works with certain clutches than maybe evo will check into it and fix the issue. at the very least you will be able to install a brand clutch you know will work w/ the kit
maybe evo should hire me as their poster car/driver

if one of you guys are willing to send me your clutch and flywheel i will tell you if they are the culprit or not.
who knows maybe the kit simply works better w/ one brand clutch vs. another brand. every brand is different and it may be that small difference which is the straw to break the camels back, so to speak.
i will tell you guys this, alot of us have had problems w/ the comp clutch in the past for stock b and h series. they DO cause the car to creep, which means they are not fully disengaging to begin with, and they DO cause shifting issues, then add in the h2b and the problem may be even worse. their twin disk is better but even that requires the install of a clutch stop

im getting ready to pull my motor/trans for the winter. if you guys send me your clutches i will tell you if they are infact the problem. you can also send me your flywheels and i will check them against mine for spec. i will do this for free to help you guys out, but you guys will pay for shipping both ways obviously.
if we can determine the problem to be that the kit only works with certain clutches than maybe evo will check into it and fix the issue. at the very least you will be able to install a brand clutch you know will work w/ the kit
well my luck must be alot better than i thought because i havent had any problems all year and my car is strictly drag.
maybe evo should hire me as their poster car/driver
if one of you guys are willing to send me your clutch and flywheel i will tell you if they are the culprit or not.
who knows maybe the kit simply works better w/ one brand clutch vs. another brand. every brand is different and it may be that small difference which is the straw to break the camels back, so to speak.
i will tell you guys this, alot of us have had problems w/ the comp clutch in the past for stock b and h series. they DO cause the car to creep, which means they are not fully disengaging to begin with, and they DO cause shifting issues, then add in the h2b and the problem may be even worse. their twin disk is better but even that requires the install of a clutch stop
im getting ready to pull my motor/trans for the winter. if you guys send me your clutches i will tell you if they are infact the problem. you can also send me your flywheels and i will check them against mine for spec. i will do this for free to help you guys out, but you guys will pay for shipping both ways obviously.
if we can determine the problem to be that the kit only works with certain clutches than maybe evo will check into it and fix the issue. at the very least you will be able to install a brand clutch you know will work w/ the kit
maybe evo should hire me as their poster car/driver

if one of you guys are willing to send me your clutch and flywheel i will tell you if they are the culprit or not.
who knows maybe the kit simply works better w/ one brand clutch vs. another brand. every brand is different and it may be that small difference which is the straw to break the camels back, so to speak.
i will tell you guys this, alot of us have had problems w/ the comp clutch in the past for stock b and h series. they DO cause the car to creep, which means they are not fully disengaging to begin with, and they DO cause shifting issues, then add in the h2b and the problem may be even worse. their twin disk is better but even that requires the install of a clutch stop

im getting ready to pull my motor/trans for the winter. if you guys send me your clutches i will tell you if they are infact the problem. you can also send me your flywheels and i will check them against mine for spec. i will do this for free to help you guys out, but you guys will pay for shipping both ways obviously.
if we can determine the problem to be that the kit only works with certain clutches than maybe evo will check into it and fix the issue. at the very least you will be able to install a brand clutch you know will work w/ the kit










