H2B Shifting Problems
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gen2ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im stumpped.
I know it isnt Bisi's problem, but it seems like he is more then willing to help.
I would PM him.
Dont give up on the EVO kit just yet.
You'll be sad if you switch!</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what do you think the problem is?
So far ive tried 3 different transmissions.
Had the clutch and flywheel sent to the clutch manufacture they machined the pressure plate.
New master and slave from honda
Motul Fluid
The only thing left to change is the kit!!!
I have sent them numerous messages with no response.
The only thing i'll be sad about if the qsd kit works is that i wasted all that money to buy the evolution kit.
I know it isnt Bisi's problem, but it seems like he is more then willing to help.
I would PM him.
Dont give up on the EVO kit just yet.
You'll be sad if you switch!</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what do you think the problem is?
So far ive tried 3 different transmissions.
Had the clutch and flywheel sent to the clutch manufacture they machined the pressure plate.
New master and slave from honda
Motul Fluid
The only thing left to change is the kit!!!
I have sent them numerous messages with no response.
The only thing i'll be sad about if the qsd kit works is that i wasted all that money to buy the evolution kit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gen2ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would only recommend the Evo kit for my future customers.
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you seem to be the only person that has stepped forward as saying the seriously drag there evo kit. Not saying anything bad about the evo kit. So far i cant prove its the kits fault but i will be trying the qsd kit next season and i will let you guys know the results.
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you seem to be the only person that has stepped forward as saying the seriously drag there evo kit. Not saying anything bad about the evo kit. So far i cant prove its the kits fault but i will be trying the qsd kit next season and i will let you guys know the results.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrowNKiD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you seem to be the only person that has stepped forward as saying the seriously drag there evo kit. Not saying anything bad about the evo kit. So far i cant prove its the kits fault but i will be trying the qsd kit next season and i will let you guys know the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm, i use the evo kit w/ great success and my car is DRAG ONLY
here check out this thread, you will see mine works great https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2308216
theres nothing wrong w/ the kit, if it worked fine in the first place then something else has changed in your setup. its not rocket science, the kit itself isnt going to wear or change.
have you opened up the trans and checked everything? because it would suck for you to purchase the qsd kit and still not be able to shift the car
you seem to be the only person that has stepped forward as saying the seriously drag there evo kit. Not saying anything bad about the evo kit. So far i cant prove its the kits fault but i will be trying the qsd kit next season and i will let you guys know the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm, i use the evo kit w/ great success and my car is DRAG ONLY
here check out this thread, you will see mine works great https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2308216
theres nothing wrong w/ the kit, if it worked fine in the first place then something else has changed in your setup. its not rocket science, the kit itself isnt going to wear or change.
have you opened up the trans and checked everything? because it would suck for you to purchase the qsd kit and still not be able to shift the car
one thing i do question about the evo kit is weather or not the shift fork requires more hydro pressure to move it. this would quickly wear out an old slave and/or master cylinder and cause the exact problems everyone is complaining about.
i have seen my buddys master and slave cylinders start leaking and my own master cylinder started leaking a while ago causing me to miss gears 3 passes in a row. i replaced the leaking master cylinder and it shifts like butter again
your trans is only gonna take so many missed gears before it needs a rebuild in order to work properly, especially in a drag car. so people could replace their leaking cylinders and still not be able to shift because their trans is poo poo
i have seen my buddys master and slave cylinders start leaking and my own master cylinder started leaking a while ago causing me to miss gears 3 passes in a row. i replaced the leaking master cylinder and it shifts like butter again
your trans is only gonna take so many missed gears before it needs a rebuild in order to work properly, especially in a drag car. so people could replace their leaking cylinders and still not be able to shift because their trans is poo poo
I have a solution that may work very well, and this will be incorporated in every Evolution and Bisimoto H2B, and F2B kit. It accomodates for aging slave cylinders, and we have beta tested it with much success. Anyone who has shifting issues should PM me for assistance....I am here to help!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a solution that may work very well, and this will be incorporated in every Evolution and Bisimoto H2B, and F2B kit. It accomodates for aging slave cylinders, and we have beta tested it with much success. Anyone who has shifting issues should PM me for assistance....I am here to help!</TD></TR></TABLE>
does this mean my theory is correct?
does this mean my theory is correct?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a solution that may work very well, and this will be incorporated in every Evolution and Bisimoto H2B, and F2B kit. It accomodates for aging slave cylinders, and we have beta tested it with much success. Anyone who has shifting issues should PM me for assistance....I am here to help!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bisi to the rescue!
Bisi to the rescue!
honestly at point u name it ive changed it. Ihad my typer tranny rebuilt the gear selector broke. Then my b16 blew the same way. Now my type r is showing the same symptoms. I personally know someone running the same kit with over 500 to the wheels. but at this point i have changed just about everything. In the morning im gonna order a brand new master and slave from honda.
Modified by BrowNKiD at 6:03 AM 10/30/2008
Modified by BrowNKiD at 6:03 AM 10/30/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, sir not at all. Aging slave cylinders are the culprit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm thats what i said, old (aging) slave and/or master clinders could give out and start leaking.....
btw, you may want to research the matter a little further because its not just the slave cylinder that will start leaking
Modified by NAH2B at 7:44 AM 10/30/2008
umm thats what i said, old (aging) slave and/or master clinders could give out and start leaking.....
btw, you may want to research the matter a little further because its not just the slave cylinder that will start leaking
Modified by NAH2B at 7:44 AM 10/30/2008
yes please do update us once you install it, i am waiting for my part too from evolution but im only putting it in the spring when shes out of storage.
Does anyone know if i can use any mount kit with the evo h2b? thinking of putting solid mounts
Does anyone know if i can use any mount kit with the evo h2b? thinking of putting solid mounts
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MikeySpec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do recall having a couple people calling me asking for advice on a similar issue they are having with the evo kit. We've yet to witness it first hand since we are QSD FOR LIFE!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problems shifting or leaving the line, might be courtesy of my clutchmasters twin disc clutch..
No problems shifting or leaving the line, might be courtesy of my clutchmasters twin disc clutch..
I am having problems right now on a customer car with the evo kit. I installed a brand new slave and master from the beginning to be sure. Car won't go into gear at all; clutch in, start to engage first and the car starts to creep but never goes into gear. I have tried the master at full adjustment both ways. The slave moves nearly an inch, which seems normal. Really hoping the solution is not to pull the tranny back off...
anther thing is with the longer fork is it have to be push more then a shorter one would have to be
so if the stock fork dont fix it you should buy a new flywheel(that will work with the evo kit) and/or clutch
so if the stock fork dont fix it you should buy a new flywheel(that will work with the evo kit) and/or clutch
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrowNKiD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well im waiting on a new part from evo. Once it arrived i'll have to pull the tranny again. But i'll keep everyone updated.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fukenricen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes please do update us once you install it, i am waiting for my part too from evolution but im only putting it in the spring when shes out of storage.
Does anyone know if i can use any mount kit with the evo h2b? thinking of putting solid mounts</TD></TR></TABLE>
What part have you guys ordered from evo?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fukenricen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes please do update us once you install it, i am waiting for my part too from evolution but im only putting it in the spring when shes out of storage.
Does anyone know if i can use any mount kit with the evo h2b? thinking of putting solid mounts</TD></TR></TABLE>
What part have you guys ordered from evo?
its a adapter that allows me to use the stock fork so it doesnt make the slave push more then it should.
_____here is my conclusion please tell me if its right.....
Im the guy brownkid was talking about with 500hp no problem on the h2b until recently where i started to have the same problems as him. Now tell me if im right or wrong. i had everything replaced when i first did the kit.(keep in mind) Is this happening because the evo fork is so big that my slave is pushing extra hard causing it to fail and cause it to have a shorter life expectency? is this correct? because it sure seems like it since i am being sent an adapter that will allow me to use a stock fork.
_____here is my conclusion please tell me if its right.....
Im the guy brownkid was talking about with 500hp no problem on the h2b until recently where i started to have the same problems as him. Now tell me if im right or wrong. i had everything replaced when i first did the kit.(keep in mind) Is this happening because the evo fork is so big that my slave is pushing extra hard causing it to fail and cause it to have a shorter life expectency? is this correct? because it sure seems like it since i am being sent an adapter that will allow me to use a stock fork.
I personally think its the fork also. I am in arizona and evo said they sent my part monday i guess i will be the first to drop the tranny and put the stock fork on and this adapter. I will let everyone know how it goes and include pictures. Im hoping it works though if i drop this tranny for nothing i will be highly disappointed
heres my theory. Because the evo kit extends the clutch fork to move the clutch the same amount it would require the slave cylinder to move more.

If you extend d2 then you have to move it more to have f1 move the same distance.
If you extend d2 then you have to move it more to have f1 move the same distance.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrowNKiD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres my theory. Because the evo kit extends the clutch fork to move the clutch the same amount it would require the slave cylinder to move more.

If you extend d2 then you have to move it more to have f1 move the same distance.
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If you extend d2 then you have to move it more to have f1 move the same distance.
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thanks for the ghetto drawing brownkid lol,
turboedsupe--- thanks man i hope it works out for you and the rest of us.
But thubs up for evo for being good to its clients and sending us what we need.
turboedsupe--- thanks man i hope it works out for you and the rest of us.
But thubs up for evo for being good to its clients and sending us what we need.



