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If you're gonna go old skool, make sure you get a light weight helmet because if you are gonna be a lot of welding the old school helmets can weigh somewhat heavy and even though 3-5 lbs doesn't sound heavy a few hours of weldingcan put quite a strain on your neck. The speedglass 9000v has an "off" setting that can be used for tig and gas welding and a variable "auto" setting that can be used for every type of welding. I love it. Not a lot of bling, all plastic, but it does work great.
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I think it has more to do with the quality of the helmet than being auto or not. most if not all of the guys on the hobart forum reccomend auto helmets. There have been a few threads discussing them as well.
project dc2- I would post on the hobart form about the problems you are having with the helmet, the mod/expert on there, Rock, will most likely have suggestions and if he still can't help you may replace the helmet with a working one. They are very serious about customer service. Or you could email him at SSCOTT@MILLERWELDS.COM
project dc2- I would post on the hobart form about the problems you are having with the helmet, the mod/expert on there, Rock, will most likely have suggestions and if he still can't help you may replace the helmet with a working one. They are very serious about customer service. Or you could email him at SSCOTT@MILLERWELDS.COM
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BTW, you guys that are using oxy/acy rigs for welding, heating, cutting, make sure your hose connections are tight each time you break out the torches. I had a little incident tonight that scared the living **** out of me.
I was using the torch to heat a lower control arm so i could get a bolt out and i noticed i smelled gas. One of the connections on my torch namely the acetylene was a little loose and leaking so i reached down to tighten it. Needless to say I didn't think about it being reverse thread. So in reality I made the leak worse and ended up creating a big enough leak to have the ******* thing blow up in my hands. Not blow up like "bang" but blow up like huge fireball that singed the hair off my hands and probably my face (I haven't looked in the mirror yet) Mind you it didn't blow itself out so now I have a flame thrower on the floor of the shop blasting away. I turned the gas off at the bottles immediately and the fire went out with no incident, except for minor burns on my hands and a damaged air hose where the fire was shooting out of the gas hose.
anyway thats my story for the night. CHECK YOUR CONNECTIONS!!
I was using the torch to heat a lower control arm so i could get a bolt out and i noticed i smelled gas. One of the connections on my torch namely the acetylene was a little loose and leaking so i reached down to tighten it. Needless to say I didn't think about it being reverse thread. So in reality I made the leak worse and ended up creating a big enough leak to have the ******* thing blow up in my hands. Not blow up like "bang" but blow up like huge fireball that singed the hair off my hands and probably my face (I haven't looked in the mirror yet) Mind you it didn't blow itself out so now I have a flame thrower on the floor of the shop blasting away. I turned the gas off at the bottles immediately and the fire went out with no incident, except for minor burns on my hands and a damaged air hose where the fire was shooting out of the gas hose.
anyway thats my story for the night. CHECK YOUR CONNECTIONS!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Overblown-Teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok cody.. just wanna make sure here.. Are you being serious about ditching the auto glass? There is this very nice helmet at the welding shop that is suppose to be great. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I use an old helmet allso, no autodimming for me. I actually like it allot better, just one less thing to worry about. I have both types but prefeer the regular non dimming mask.
Rob
I use an old helmet allso, no autodimming for me. I actually like it allot better, just one less thing to worry about. I have both types but prefeer the regular non dimming mask.
Rob
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racerxadam »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, you guys that are using oxy/acy rigs for welding, heating, cutting, make sure your hose connections are tight each time you break out the torches. I had a little incident tonight that scared the living **** out of me.
I was using the torch to heat a lower control arm so i could get a bolt out and i noticed i smelled gas. One of the connections on my torch namely the acetylene was a little loose and leaking so i reached down to tighten it. Needless to say I didn't think about it being reverse thread. So in reality I made the leak worse and ended up creating a big enough leak to have the ******* thing blow up in my hands. Not blow up like "bang" but blow up like huge fireball that singed the hair off my hands and probably my face (I haven't looked in the mirror yet) Mind you it didn't blow itself out so now I have a flame thrower on the floor of the shop blasting away. I turned the gas off at the bottles immediately and the fire went out with no incident, except for minor burns on my hands and a damaged air hose where the fire was shooting out of the gas hose.
anyway thats my story for the night. CHECK YOUR CONNECTIONS!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn dude you know that exact same thing happend to me a few weeks ago! Luckily the tank was low and chained to a cart. Glad to see you came out alright. Looks like you got it abou the same as I did. I did have to shave off the rest of my gotee though...
I was using the torch to heat a lower control arm so i could get a bolt out and i noticed i smelled gas. One of the connections on my torch namely the acetylene was a little loose and leaking so i reached down to tighten it. Needless to say I didn't think about it being reverse thread. So in reality I made the leak worse and ended up creating a big enough leak to have the ******* thing blow up in my hands. Not blow up like "bang" but blow up like huge fireball that singed the hair off my hands and probably my face (I haven't looked in the mirror yet) Mind you it didn't blow itself out so now I have a flame thrower on the floor of the shop blasting away. I turned the gas off at the bottles immediately and the fire went out with no incident, except for minor burns on my hands and a damaged air hose where the fire was shooting out of the gas hose.
anyway thats my story for the night. CHECK YOUR CONNECTIONS!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn dude you know that exact same thing happend to me a few weeks ago! Luckily the tank was low and chained to a cart. Glad to see you came out alright. Looks like you got it abou the same as I did. I did have to shave off the rest of my gotee though...
I have a cheap autodark that I like, except sometimes it seems to change darkness on me, like if the ark should spark out, it gets darker for a second.. that is pretty anoying.. is it just because I have a cheap one, or do all autodarks do that?
also, mine is adjustable from shade 7-13... I like to weld on 7 (mig).. it doesnt bother my eyes, and as far as I know the darkness is just to keep the brightness from bothering you, and the uv protection is always in the glass, but I want to make sure from someone that knows.. will using the 7 shade damage my eyes??
also, mine is adjustable from shade 7-13... I like to weld on 7 (mig).. it doesnt bother my eyes, and as far as I know the darkness is just to keep the brightness from bothering you, and the uv protection is always in the glass, but I want to make sure from someone that knows.. will using the 7 shade damage my eyes??
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You can damage your vision if the shield isn't dark enough, if it bothers your eyes you should go darker. Other wise I try to stay at a 9 or darker. Welders flash sucks, feels like sand in your eyes for days.
I couldn't tell you since I have been used to welding with only 2 helmets, one fixed and one auto. I used the fixed for years when sticking and miging but when I finally switched to an auto(my speedglas 9000v) I swore I would never go back. It makes you look like an alien but it works fantastic and its light weight and works on watch batteries not to mention when it doesn't see activity for 30 min. it goes into failsafe shade 5 saving battery life.
Anyway I'm through with sounding like a commercial. When it comes to helmets I have found you get what you pay for. The Jackson's weigh too much for me, the millers have alot of bling and you have to pay for other welding darknesses, I have just found A LOT of satisfaction with the 9000v.
EDIT: oh yeah believe it or not IT DOES NOT FOG UP!
Anyway I'm through with sounding like a commercial. When it comes to helmets I have found you get what you pay for. The Jackson's weigh too much for me, the millers have alot of bling and you have to pay for other welding darknesses, I have just found A LOT of satisfaction with the 9000v.
EDIT: oh yeah believe it or not IT DOES NOT FOG UP!
yes i was serious todd. switched to manual flip, and my welds improved 10fold. Let alone the fact that I havent blinded myself from the "flippies" that occur when youre up inside a collector with the torch, filler, and an odd angle that somehow prevents light from getting to the helmet 

^ I totaly agree. I have an old school helmet, weighs alot and i have flipping up and down looking for where i am gona hit my peice. I bought a Jackson Nex-Gen and will never go back. It has 9cu. in. of veiwing space so i can see everything and with 1/20,000 of a second darking i have not had any problems with flash burn.
yea $271 is alot but its rated the top helmet for tigging and plus you only get one set of eyes.
heres a pic
yea $271 is alot but its rated the top helmet for tigging and plus you only get one set of eyes.
heres a pic
Goto a local Welding supply store and try on a Speedglas, wether it be auto, adjustable or what have you, i nknwo youll love it. they are expensive but they are so comfortable and you can breath in them for ever with no problems.
-Brian W.
-Brian W.
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to an extent, the puddle will start to wet out to far and the bead profile will probably be larger than when you started. you can usually also see a good amount of material coming through the back side where you are too hot.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hulkhb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ I totaly agree. I have an old school helmet, weighs alot and i have flipping up and down looking for where i am gona hit my peice. I bought a Jackson Nex-Gen and will never go back. It has 9cu. in. of veiwing space so i can see everything and with 1/20,000 of a second darking i have not had any problems with flash burn.
yea $271 is alot but its rated the top helmet for tigging and plus you only get one set of eyes.
heres a pic
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i had a cheaper jackson before and it would go out on me from time to time... i thought it was a factory defect so i sent it back... they replaced it and again the same ****... i decided to try the new-gen... best money i ever spent... ended up getting 2 of them
yea $271 is alot but its rated the top helmet for tigging and plus you only get one set of eyes.
heres a pic
i had a cheaper jackson before and it would go out on me from time to time... i thought it was a factory defect so i sent it back... they replaced it and again the same ****... i decided to try the new-gen... best money i ever spent... ended up getting 2 of them
I don't trust the auto helmets. I used one and it would turn off and on with the tig. I ended up getting really bad flashburn.
That sucks more than anything.
My friend just got one of the Optrel helmets. It is very nice... Maybe some of you might consider looking into them.
That sucks more than anything.My friend just got one of the Optrel helmets. It is very nice... Maybe some of you might consider looking into them.
first of all I would just like to say hello to all the welding experts, I never welded before, but want to learn how. I have a couple questions...
what kind of welders do you use?
Would this or another $150-$200 welder be a good welder to start withhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...46413 is it good enought to do some regular turbo-related welding like flanges, IC piping, downpipes?
also do you guys have any links to sites that have welding faqs or tutorials??
what kind of welders do you use?
Would this or another $150-$200 welder be a good welder to start withhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...46413 is it good enought to do some regular turbo-related welding like flanges, IC piping, downpipes?
also do you guys have any links to sites that have welding faqs or tutorials??
I would spend more and at least get a mig welder that is set up for gas... the gasless welds look verry bad... also you may want one with more power.. I would suggest about 150 amps... most people making manifolds are welding 1/2" steel... the one in the link is only rated to 1/8.. you can get a good mig new for around $400, but then you will need some gloves and a bottle as well which runs between $80-$130... you will prolly be sorry if you go too cheap on your tools
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matt_sb2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't trust the auto helmets. I used one and it would turn off and on with the tig. I ended up getting really bad flashburn.
That sucks more than anything.
My friend just got one of the Optrel helmets. It is very nice... Maybe some of you might consider looking into them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
There are specific types of auto helmets, ones for mig and ones for tig there all different. Its just personal perference i guess.
That sucks more than anything.My friend just got one of the Optrel helmets. It is very nice... Maybe some of you might consider looking into them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
There are specific types of auto helmets, ones for mig and ones for tig there all different. Its just personal perference i guess.
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There are specific types of auto helmets, ones for mig and ones for tig there all different. Its just personal perference i guess.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I wasn't saying the auto helmets are crap or anything. You are right, it is just prefrence. I like my normal helmet.
There are specific types of auto helmets, ones for mig and ones for tig there all different. Its just personal perference i guess.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I wasn't saying the auto helmets are crap or anything. You are right, it is just prefrence. I like my normal helmet.
you said that gasless welds look bad, im not really concerned with looks more with funciton. Will gasless welds function as good as ones with gas?
I am not going to be making manifolds, thats too advanced for me, I just want to be able to weld my own IC piping, downpipes, BOV/Turbo flanges, mufflers, what kind of amp rating would you suggest for that??
I am not going to be making manifolds, thats too advanced for me, I just want to be able to weld my own IC piping, downpipes, BOV/Turbo flanges, mufflers, what kind of amp rating would you suggest for that??
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporty240 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you said that gasless welds look bad, im not really concerned with looks more with funciton. Will gasless welds function as good as ones with gas?
I am not going to be making manifolds, thats too advanced for me, I just want to be able to weld my own IC piping, downpipes, BOV/Turbo flanges, mufflers, what kind of amp rating would you suggest for that??</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you arn't going to be doing alot of welding you could just come by my place and i could weld up anything for you, seeing that you are from WA (pending where in WA - i am in PS area)
As for just welding IC piping and such a gasless will work fine. To make it look a little better you can grind down the welds and paint it to make it look better, although doing so will loose a little strength.
I am not going to be making manifolds, thats too advanced for me, I just want to be able to weld my own IC piping, downpipes, BOV/Turbo flanges, mufflers, what kind of amp rating would you suggest for that??</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you arn't going to be doing alot of welding you could just come by my place and i could weld up anything for you, seeing that you are from WA (pending where in WA - i am in PS area)
As for just welding IC piping and such a gasless will work fine. To make it look a little better you can grind down the welds and paint it to make it look better, although doing so will loose a little strength.
A welder will be a life long purchase.. spending a few extra bucks now will really pay off in the end.. in six months when your really good with your welder and are ready to take on some more projects your gonna wish you had opted for the best one to begin with.. I would recomend the 110V lincoln migs. For $700ish you should be able to get into a complete setup.


