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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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They came out very nice. Yes, the welds probably could have been cleaned up a bit, but who really cares about that. It's about time to finish up some project on your car and start putting it together, so you can spend time working out all the programming faults that are going to show up.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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Mr. Electronics whiz, any ideas or insight on this issue?....

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/crx-climate-control-problems-2990263/
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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NICE! Should cleaned up the welds before they got chromed.
I completely agree mate. Its the first stuff ive ever had chromed, I didnt realise it would take to the welds like it did..

Lesson learnt for next time though.. Plus, the only bit i really wanted chroming was the inside of the tubing.. If i get too angry with it, i could always add a decent layer of paint to the outside..
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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Mr. Electronics whiz, any ideas or insight on this issue?....

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2990263
Give me a few minutes to wake up and ill have a look lol.. (6:59am here, just got to work)
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Give me a few minutes to wake up and ill have a look lol.. (6:59am here, just got to work)
No problem, if you have any ideas, that could fix this, I'd be ecstatic!!! 3 controllers and not one works...
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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No problem, if you have any ideas, that could fix this, I'd be ecstatic!!! 3 controllers and not one works...
You should check that there is 12v available at the black/yel cable, and that there is continuity between GND and the black wire.

If those work, i would check the end to end continuity of the GRN/RED and GRN/WHT wires...
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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None of this is currently installed, it's being bench tested, everything works except changing to fresh air, unless I do it direct at the motor, it won't work on the control.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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None of this is currently installed, it's being bench tested, everything works except changing to fresh air, unless I do it direct at the motor, it won't work on the control.
Ahh i see Can you confirm that the 12v power signal is present from the control itself? Im assuming that if youre bench testing the GND is perfect..

The diagram isnt perfect as it doesnt show the values of the zener diodes. But it looks like there should be 12v from the recirc switch, and another voltage from the control circuit. Im unsure of the function of the zeners, they could be to drop the voltage so im not sure..

I think there should be some kind of voltage from all the pins.. With the only source of GND being the GND on the motor..
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:19 PM
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oh man you are genius... because I was bench testing I never hooked up the 12v because the control gets the 12v signal from the AC button which isn't hooked up (doh) clearly I was over thinking this issue. 12v to the control now the lights work (shoulda turned a light bulb on that they weren't working before) Hooked up that 12v, and it is now working just as it should. Now I feel dumb :/ Thank you though! lolz Now I can put the control back together hahaha!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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No worries mate- glad to help out...
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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So where are you with your build in terms of getting it drivable the way you want it?
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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Not too far off to be honest, but at the same time miles away..


Resprays are not cheap over here, especially paying 20% VAT.. So ive been saving, the side project i started to try and make a bit of money for it hasnt worked as well as id hoped, as people are asking for new things im having to invest the profits to develop them..

Im on the last leg now, nearly saved up..

The car is pretty much ready to go back together, most of the parts are done. Just the plumbing, wiring, rear driveshafts and prop to sort out..
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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Here you can get "cheap" resprays starting at $160 but you literally get what you pay for, if you don't care about overspray and paint that won't last very long then you'll be golden with it.

What is VAT?

I know how you feel trying to do side projects for cash. It's a tough situation and the side money never goes far.

Are your rear trailing arms custom 2 piece welded or?? I'm curious about the bearing/hub modification you did on those as well.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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Exactly, my wife has allowed me to do anything i want with the car, but (and i agree) she wants me to make it look perfect, a show car..

VAT is Value Added Tax. We pay it on everything except food (pretty much). It was 17.5% of the total cost of the item but its gone up to 20%. Even if I import something, itll have 20% slapped on top of its value..

This is on top of income tax .etc

My trailing arms are Civic RTSi ones. To make them fit i had to reduce their lengh by about 30mm. I cut a section out, welded them back together and plated the back to box it together. The CRV bearing bolts to the surface of the arm, but the RTSi one bolts from the back through with a piece of metal on top to space the drum brake.

To retain strength, i wanted to keep the rear structure of the bearing, so i cut out the bit that protruded through the arm, and widended it so the CRV bearing would bolt on top.

To keep 100x4 PCD, i have to use Civic ABS front hubs. These press into the CRV bearings but are too short (if you tighten the driveshaft, it pulls it all together and fouls). I havnt done it yet, but i need to have a set of shims made. Basically Aluminium rings, that are the same internal and external dimensions of the front hubs, but approx 5mm thick just to stop it pulling together..
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 12:24 AM
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What a great wife! :D

WOW that's crazy! Here I was complaining when they raised our sales tax (basically the same thing) by 1% to 9.75%! 20% is crazy! And to pay it even on stuff from outside! sheesh! CA which is where I live is going to start charging sales tax to for ALL internet sales here soon. Amazon started to fight it and then gave up after coming to an agreement to have a 1 year longer non tax year. Before only internet sales inside CA shipped to CA buyers were charged sales tax, if you purchased outside CA sales tax wasn't collected, but this state spends money on the stupidest crap that they need more money.

I see I follow you up until using the front hubs on there. If I'm understanding correctly the hub where it presses into the bearing is shorter than the length of the crv bearing, so you need to create a spacer to fill that gap? If this is true, isn't that going to create an issue when the axle goes into the hub and not fully engage with the teeth?
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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I agree its stupid- but there is nothing we can do about it..

Youre correct, the first 5mm of the splines wont engage with the hub. But if my actual front hubs can pass 650bhp, im pretty sure the rears will handle it too.. As long as the torsional strain isnt too great on that 5mm..

Im not going to worry about it at all to be honest.. Id be more worried about the CRV clutch pack slipping before the axle sheering..
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 12:48 AM
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I wish there was, taxes are a bit ridiculous when the money is spent on ridiculous crap.

This is all gonna be very interesting. I too hope to go awd eventually with my LS :D
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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It is stupid- and you never seem to see any of your taxes do anything locally to you.. The first time ive ever seen it do anything is a few weeks ago when our street was tarmac'd.

If my build helps you with your AWD conversion, ask as much as you want. Rallysol has a cracking build on here- its where i got my inspiration..
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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They FINALLY repaved my street withing the last month or so, which was AWESOME, because I live on a dead end street, but at the end there is a freeway exit, so we get a lot of traffic and the street was messed up. As long as I can remember they have never done it, but they also did some stupid paving where they pushed the corners of the sidewalk out in toward the street making them larger for handicap people. Dumbest thing my city has done, you can no longer make right turns on red now because of it. They replaced all the street lights down the main parkway to nicer looking ones, but they aren't LED to save energy! It was a really dumb project overall besides the repaving. It was all over the local news because it was a HUGE controversy on what they were doing, locals were mad because construction was being started at 6am when there is a city ordinance that you are not to start any construction noise before 8am, they interviewed someone with the city and in other words he basically said we are the city and we can do what we want. RIDICULOUS!!!

I definitely will, I'll have to look up his build as well! :D
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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**** we only got 7% sales tax, damn i got it good haha

Shifting gears a bit, im loving the progress man, cant wait
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Its all a bit confusing really. I try to keep out of it- there is nothing i can do so why bother yourself with it..

Anyway, I didnt know whether to post these pics up as im really not happy with them.

Theyre really only a mock up, tack welded onto the wing brackets.

The holes for the cables arent in the right place. Its ended up with the threads binding as the wing moves to the lowest position. Ive bagged them up now but it looks like im going to have to grind them off and rethink it..







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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Its all a bit confusing really. I try to keep out of it- there is nothing i can do so why bother yourself with it...
I got a gun and a bug out bag for when **** gets too crazy (and it will) here! If you don't know what a Bug Out Bag is Google it!
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Im lost on what you are talking about now haha! :p

I have an idea as a fix ill explain with some edited pics when I get home dunno if it will work for you but doesn't hurt to help since you've helped me
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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I got a gun and a bug out bag for when **** gets too crazy (and it will) here! If you don't know what a Bug Out Bag is Google it!
Not a bad idea mate.. Why dont i have something like that?!

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Im lost on what you are talking about now haha! :p

I have an idea as a fix ill explain with some edited pics when I get home dunno if it will work for you but doesn't hurt to help since you've helped me
I think i know what to do with it, im just going to grind off my welds, move the plate slightly futher in, so the cable is dead centre, and weld it back on.. Im not massively happy with the actual shape of the mock up either so ill see what it turns out..

But it cant help to have another pair of eyes on it.. If you have time, show me what you mean, but dont go out of your way mate..
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