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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Default Turbo Timer on a N/A Car

Anyone here have one? I'm thinking about maybe getting the small Apexi one to help my car cool down a bit after hard runs.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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For what purpose? The whole idea of the turbo timer is to let the oil circulate through the turbo to cool it off some after a hard run so that the oil doesnt stop running and sit inside the turbo and "bake" and coat to the walls of the oil lines (remember turbos generally get 1200-1400 degrees on hard runs) Your head doesnt get NEARLY that hot.....

Btw, I still have mine on there due only to the fact laying in the drivers footwell in a miata is a bitch and hurts your back. Eventually I will take it out. Its turned off either way.....

Waste of money IMO.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:04 AM
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as useless as putting a boost gauge in your NA car
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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as useless as putting a boost gauge in your NA car
Hey! I have one of those too! (havent removed it yet)

DAMN! Starting to look like a riceboy here.....
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 12:18 PM
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good thought....

but......

i think that might interfer with my Blow off Valve electronical wiring
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Insted of a turbo timer why not customize your own oil cooler?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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i have a friend who has this kind of setup !

his car revs to 8500 and he is running synthetic oil , he says that after hard runs ( if the car is turned off as soon as a hard run ) the oil sticks to the block and it also causes the oil to turn black faster .
now if the car has a turbo timer , then the oil is able to cool , which help prevent oil sticking to the block and extends the live of the oil ..

now don't flame me , i am just saying what he said . i dont know if it makes sense to any of you guys but......
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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your friend is a dum dum
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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i had a tt on my na car for a while, but thats cuz i was waiting for my turbo kit to arrive.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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you guys arnt quite thinking about this are you?

he did state "after a hard run"

your engine will be at its peak and should be allowed to cool down for at least one easy lap after "going hard"

this includes your brakes/clutch/engine/heartbeat

so dont dis the idea straight out, it does have some merit in certain situations.

but a turbo timer may be overkill,

just dont "go hard" then stop and shut down...

t..
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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you guys arnt quite thinking about this are you?

he did state "after a hard run"

your engine will be at its peak and should be allowed to cool down for at least one easy lap after "going hard"

this includes your brakes/clutch/engine/heartbeat

so dont dis the idea straight out, it does have some merit in certain situations.

but a turbo timer may be overkill,

just dont "go hard" then stop and shut down...

t..
Uhhhh, why dont you think about it somemore..... name a situation where you would run your car hard and then immediatley stop, get out, and leave and lock your car?

There is no reason to put a turbo timer in a NA car. Unless you are trying to perpetrate that you have turbo or something.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Turbo Timer on a N/A Car (tonyxcom)

i never would,

i also stated that a turbo timer would be overkill.

thats all.

just making sure everyone understood that cool downs are important (which you obviously agree)

t..


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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Turbo Timer on a N/A Car (tinkerbell)

It probably is overkill.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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"Before shutdown after a hard run"

In case you didnt know (for those who think this is a dumb subject), shutting down quickly after hard run is a bad thing to do no matter what aspiration. After a hard run and shutdown, the engine can actually gain temperature because there is no 'circulation' taking place (coolant & oil need to flow to keep temperature under control). I would advise idling for a few seconds before shutdown. If youre really circuit, install oil cooler. Oh and.. Turbo + circuit = not good -"Best Motoring"
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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A great situation this would be used in is at an autocross event.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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I have a turbo timer on my N/A. I got it for $45 brand new. It's the old APEXi one. I do plan to go turbo in the future. It's on my car cuz I thought it was better to have fun with it rather than having it sit in my room.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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A great situation this would be used in is at an autocross event.

I think I would have to agree to this point... in an autocross event it would be an effective way to take an extra precaution. y'all are right in saying that the engine can/will get hotter after you cut it off due to the lack of oil circulation... i really don't see it being effective for your daily driver though... nor do i think it would be needed for anyone aside from the SERIOUSLY DEVOTED auto-xer. I don't see why you couldn't let it run for 30 secs or so after your run though.

OT: Can you use a turbo timer with a car that has an alarm on it? Or would arming the car while it was running cause a problem?
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 11:15 PM
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"Before shutdown after a hard run"

In case you didnt know (for those who think this is a dumb subject), shutting down quickly after hard run is a bad thing to do no matter what aspiration. After a hard run and shutdown, the engine can actually gain temperature because there is no 'circulation' taking place (coolant & oil need to flow to keep temperature under control). I would advise idling for a few seconds before shutdown. If youre really circuit, install oil cooler. Oh and.. Turbo + circuit = not good (from "Best Motoring") - Quick 200k Mile Motor
circuit = road race


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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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Waste of money IMO.
I agree.
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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OH yeah I'm thinking about putting blinker fluids, so it can turn faster. How about muffler bearings? Those will make 50 whp and some type R sticker.


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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Turbo Timer on a N/A Car (Ltech)

out of curiosity, are there any N/A cars on this board running a turbo timer for a reason aside from "too lazy to take it off" or "getting the turbo soon"?

and could you use a turbo timer with a viper alarm, for instance
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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no laughs
Just idle for a few seconds before shutdown.
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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haha, well that was my thought too... but curiosity got the best of me and I'm sure that there are people on here (not as many as SHO) that are running turbo timers on there n/a cars
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 01:09 PM
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Turbo timers are beneficial to turbos. Period.
Because after your Turbo engine (oil pump) has shut down, the TURBINES are still spinning with dwindling lubrication. They will spin for a long time depending on how the car was driven before shut-down. By maintaining an oil supply, Turbo-Timers prevent damage to the turbo bearings (that are still moving) from the heat caused by them spinning with NO OIL. (This applies to Water cooled turbos also)

Your NA engine's crank, cams, and valves stop moving after you shut the engine off. . . .
So does your car's body. . . The oil will not see a temperature benefit because there is no air going through any oil cooler. Plus your engine parts are not moving, so they do not need any further lubrication.

Has anyone ever had a car that begins to overheat? (My 86 Integra) When you are driving it, the temps stay lower than when you idle at a light. Why? Because air is flowing through the radiator and/or oil cooler. The same principle applies to a NA car that is parked using a Turbo Timer. There is no temperature benefit from this setup because there is no airflow until the cooling fans decide to come on. And since the parts are still moving, they are still creating heat due to friction between the parts. This = no cooling effect.

Turbo Timers are solely meant to keep the bearings of the turbos lubed until they slow enough to cool.

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