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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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are all d16 transmissions interchangable? i just bought a 96 civic dx automatic coupe and i want to convert to manual.
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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yes, i believe that they are all interchangeable, but if i were you, I would go with a 96-98 ex transmission. same connections, same obd-2a.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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ok. do i ahve to change ecu's or anything when i swap trans or anything?
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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You can use any 92-00 d-series tranny and not have to change anything. 96-00 EX and 92-95 EX/Si provide the quickest gearing.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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96-00 tranny has stronger shift forks.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by t0p_sh0tta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">96-00 tranny has stronger shift forks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

true...the y8 trannys grab a little better....
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98h22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok. do i ahve to change ecu's or anything when i swap trans or anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i believe you'd have to get an ecu for a manual car or else it will throw a CEL. they are dirt cheap on ebay, i got an ex manual ecu for my head swap for $35 shipped, a dx ecu would probably be even cheaper.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true...the y8 trannys grab a little better.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

A more durable shift fork won't make anything "grab" better.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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1. any hydro trans will bolt up.
2. the only sensors on the manual trans are the reverse and the vss. The plugs on these are the same for obd1 and obd2.
3. steel forks bend and **** up dog teeth/synchros/synchro sleeves. Take a look at this fucked up gear.
4. aluminum forks break. when they do. they are the only thing that breaks.
5. The ONLY thing that is definitely better about the y8 trans vs z6 trans is that the cage for one of the countershaft bearings is made of metal instead of nylon. This means that oil won't break it down after say, 400k miles.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

true...the y8 trannys grab a little better.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

considering that they share nearly all the same components and are just downright nearly identical. There is no way that this is possible.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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i picked up a y8 trans. do i have to change axles or are trans mounts different?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98h22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i picked up a y8 trans. do i have to change axles or are trans mounts different?</TD></TR></TABLE>

all the same
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1337459

should help you out.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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thanks.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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If you are using an ex ecu you will have serious problems, the manual ecu for the ex uses a two wire iacv while the automatic ex and the non-vtec models use a three wire. Get a dx manual ecu.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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i got a list based on that 44 pix thread of everything needed, with a price list for the most parts based on ebay, how much i'm paying a coworker for his parts, and based on hondaautomotiveparts.com

here's a list:

Y8 tranny - $200
Clutch Flywheel - $185
Flywheel/Clutch bolts: Flywheel: 90011-PM0-000 Clutch/PP: 90034-P10-A01 ~ $15 (ebay you can get the set of JDM ones)
Mounts: upper tranny bracket Part #: 50825-S04-000 ~ $27
lower tranny mount - ?
Part #s: Tranny bolts: 90190-SR3-000 - x3 $0.89x3
Chassis: 90166-SR3-000 - x2 $0.19x2 (bolts)
rear tranny mount - Part#: 50810-SR3-030 $62.76
pedal assembly - Part #: 46912-SD4-000 $3.16 (it's a pin or bolt, don't remember)
manual IM and TB ~ $100(just realized 96-98 and 99-00 have different IM due to a nipple on the 99-00, so I don't know price now, have to find one since I have a 00 EX civic)
ECU - $60-100 (got mine for $45)
shift linkage + shift assembly ~ $30-50 (it was from an auction, you can get for maybe 50 or so on honda-tech, but might hit up to 100)
Clutch Master/Slave Cylinder - $64
VSS - $30
manual starter - $30
manual starter bolt Part#: 95701-10100-08 - $0.89
clutch kit - $115
clutch cables ?
resevoir ?

total ~ $955.86
Give or take, I didn't include how much a wire harness is, as I have a 00 EX Manual ECU I need to get one.

You can use the stock pedals and get a clutch pedal, but brake pedal is huge, so manual pedals suggested, can be used from any 92-00 integra/ civic.

Good luck, im piecing together my swap too.
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