im running 8 psi with greddy e-manage and was wondering if i should retard my timing. right now its at stock 16 degrees, unless e-manage changes it??? anyone know if it does? if not should i retard it a couple degrees via the distributor? or should i get msd or something? will it hurt performance if its retarded and im not boosting?

thanks.

EDIT: i think you have to have the ignition wire harness for e-manage to do it right?


Modified by mike93eh at 6:21 AM 8/9/2005

 

have you hit boost already?

if you have and haven't heard any pinging or detonation, i would just leave it at stock setting like you have it now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaeg8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you hit boost already?

if you have and haven't heard any pinging or detonation, i would just leave it at stock setting like you have it now. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well sometimes when im really on it i hear a crackling sound, but my plugs show no sign. i have the engine disassembled right now and all looks good.

would retarding it 1-2 degrees hurt my non-boosting performance?

 

then i would retard it 2 degrees and take it for a test drive and see if you hear the same sound.

 

it only does it sometimes when i suddenly floor the gas and my mbc spikes to 10psi for a second and drops to 8.

 

I would personally retard the Timing a little just to be on the safe side.

 

i would junk the E-manage and get uberdata/crome/hondata/neptune

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted k20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would junk the E-manage and get uberdata/crome/hondata/neptune</TD></TR></TABLE>


...yea

 

yea ive heard it a million times, stfu. I KNOW! jeeesh!

give me the money for hondata and you go take the time to travel for hours to go get it tuned. otherwise dont tell me what i need. i just want some opinions on retarding, retards.

seems every thread i make has a couple people in it saying i need to get hondata.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea ive heard it a million times, stfu. I KNOW! jeeesh!

give me the money for hondata and you go take the time to travel for hours to go get it tuned. otherwise dont tell me what i need. i just want some opinions on retarding, retards.

seems every thread i make has a couple people in it saying i need to get hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol, junk the emanage

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted k20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, junk the emanage </TD></TR></TABLE>

emanage &gt; *

 

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EDIT: i think you have to have the ignition wire harness for e-manage to do it right?


Modified by mike93eh at 6:21 AM 8/9/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, you'll need the Support Tool & the Ignition Harness to adjust timing. I can get you a rockin good deal on the Ignition or Injector Harness but you'd still need the support tool.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i2un &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, you'll need the Support Tool & the Ignition Harness to adjust timing. I can get you a rockin good deal on the Ignition or Injector Harness but you'd still need the support tool.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of rockin deal?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what kind of rockin deal?</TD></TR></TABLE>

pm'd

 

retarding 2 degrees will probably be enough and won't make make much difference off of boost if any at all

 

Junk the emanage and run uberdata, n00b

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jizzmaster Zero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Junk the emanage and run uberdata, n00b</TD></TR></TABLE>

e-manage &gt; uberdata

 

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e-manage &gt; uberdata

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hahaaaa, you wish!

 

Ignition Harness & Injector Harness

 

Backside...sorry it's blurry

 

cracklign sound is most likely detonation, good idea to retard timing in the boosted portions of the map

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just want some opinions on retarding, retards.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know I'd reduce timing in that situation. A detonating motor makes less power than a tuned motor, its a given.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">emanage &gt; *</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong

You need to use some sort of boost timing retard feature.
(Leave distributor timing at 16.5 deg at idle)

I would suggest .85 deg per lbs of boost to start off with.