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the 4x 114.3 is prelude and accord right?. there also was a eg civic coupe (red) that was in a magazine and had a homemade turbo and had the intercooler piping coming thru the stock airbox and it went to the throttle body. it appeared like a stock car. black piping to appear like it was stick plastic piping. very nice. almost exactly what chad is describing.it was a stock appearing d series motor in it. stock height, etc. very sleeper.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 4x 114.3 is prelude and accord right?...</TD></TR></TABLE>
some...
also late model ITR
some...
also late model ITR
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 4x 114.3 is prelude and accord right?.</TD></TR></TABLE>
96 spec itr.
and the civic that you are talking about witht he sleeper turbo setup was in scc about a year and a half ago. cover story was something like budget boost.
96 spec itr.
and the civic that you are talking about witht he sleeper turbo setup was in scc about a year and a half ago. cover story was something like budget boost.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">96 spec itr. and the civic that you are talking about witht he sleeper turbo setup was in scc about a year and a half ago. cover story was something like budget boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly, it so reminds me of the red dx? (or si) hatchback with hubcaps over real rims and it has a b18c5 w/ lsd under the hood. sleepers are great
exactly, it so reminds me of the red dx? (or si) hatchback with hubcaps over real rims and it has a b18c5 w/ lsd under the hood. sleepers are great
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exactly, it so reminds me of the red dx? (or si) hatchback with hubcaps over real rims and it has a b18c5 w/ lsd under the hood. sleepers are great
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LP says "ZZZZ" ??
exactly, it so reminds me of the red dx? (or si) hatchback with hubcaps over real rims and it has a b18c5 w/ lsd under the hood. sleepers are great
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can anyone shed some more light on the 90-91 EX brakes?
I've looked around and about all I can come up with is that the calipers are slightly bigger and rotors are bigger (thats what I remember anyways)
so.....basically the same as DA but the knuckles fit better?
now? do they fit the stock 14" 90-91 si rims? or do you have to shave the caliper brakets?
if anyone has the full story on this swap let me know...I have a line on 2 90-91 EXs
I've looked around and about all I can come up with is that the calipers are slightly bigger and rotors are bigger (thats what I remember anyways)
so.....basically the same as DA but the knuckles fit better?
now? do they fit the stock 14" 90-91 si rims? or do you have to shave the caliper brakets?
if anyone has the full story on this swap let me know...I have a line on 2 90-91 EXs
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHC_C-REX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can anyone shed some more light on the 90-91 EX brakes?
I've looked around and about all I can come up with is that the calipers are slightly bigger and rotors are bigger (thats what I remember anyways)
so.....basically the same as DA but the knuckles fit better?
now? do they fit the stock 14" 90-91 si rims? or do you have to shave the caliper brakets?
if anyone has the full story on this swap let me know...I have a line on 2 90-91 EXs </TD></TR></TABLE>
calipers and rotors are the same size as da but the knuckle is the same height as the civic. the da knuckle is slightly taller-which is good for a free camber correction on a car lowered about 2 inches.
yes, they clear 14's-no shaving required.
I've looked around and about all I can come up with is that the calipers are slightly bigger and rotors are bigger (thats what I remember anyways)
so.....basically the same as DA but the knuckles fit better?
now? do they fit the stock 14" 90-91 si rims? or do you have to shave the caliper brakets?
if anyone has the full story on this swap let me know...I have a line on 2 90-91 EXs </TD></TR></TABLE>
calipers and rotors are the same size as da but the knuckle is the same height as the civic. the da knuckle is slightly taller-which is good for a free camber correction on a car lowered about 2 inches.
yes, they clear 14's-no shaving required.
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some...
also late model ITR</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually what you mean is "earlier" model ITR. LATE model refers to "latest". im pretty sure my 13 yr old cousin knows that.
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exactly, it so reminds me of the red dx? (or si) hatchback with hubcaps over real rims and it has a b18c5 w/ lsd under the hood. sleepers are great </TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, but to be a sleeper you need to run faster than 13.80s at 95mph.
and that guy with the boulder looks EXACTLY like omniman. i mean, it could be steve rothenbuehler. scary. im gonna call him and ask him if he ever smashed a crx with a rock.
some...
also late model ITR</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually what you mean is "earlier" model ITR. LATE model refers to "latest". im pretty sure my 13 yr old cousin knows that.
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exactly, it so reminds me of the red dx? (or si) hatchback with hubcaps over real rims and it has a b18c5 w/ lsd under the hood. sleepers are great </TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, but to be a sleeper you need to run faster than 13.80s at 95mph.
and that guy with the boulder looks EXACTLY like omniman. i mean, it could be steve rothenbuehler. scary. im gonna call him and ask him if he ever smashed a crx with a rock.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
calipers and rotors are the same size as da but the knuckle is the same height as the civic. the da knuckle is slightly taller-which is good for a free camber correction on a car lowered about 2 inches.
yes, they clear 14's-no shaving required.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks... do the stock crx calipers have the same bolt locations as the ex?
if so does that leave more options as far as upgrading to larger calipers IE Accord Wagon, Prelude vtec, ITR, Legend, NSX, ETC ETC?
calipers and rotors are the same size as da but the knuckle is the same height as the civic. the da knuckle is slightly taller-which is good for a free camber correction on a car lowered about 2 inches.
yes, they clear 14's-no shaving required.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks... do the stock crx calipers have the same bolt locations as the ex?
if so does that leave more options as far as upgrading to larger calipers IE Accord Wagon, Prelude vtec, ITR, Legend, NSX, ETC ETC?
omniman wears glasses thou
i think the 4 lug itr was the 96 spec us itr. i also thought that with a b series type r motor (jdm, so maybe i mean b18c) in an ef, it would be able to do low 13s, high 12s (maybe its the driver)
i think the 4 lug itr was the 96 spec us itr. i also thought that with a b series type r motor (jdm, so maybe i mean b18c) in an ef, it would be able to do low 13s, high 12s (maybe its the driver)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHC_C-REX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks... do the stock crx calipers have the same bolt locations as the ex?
if so does that leave more options as far as upgrading to larger calipers IE Accord Wagon, Prelude vtec, ITR, Legend, NSX, ETC ETC?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i don't know if the crx calipers have the same boltup locations as the ex/da's but i have seen the mugen/big nissin calipers on a da so i can only ASSUME (since i am not 100% certain that they were bolt on).
anything is possible with an adapter plate/machine shop time.
if so does that leave more options as far as upgrading to larger calipers IE Accord Wagon, Prelude vtec, ITR, Legend, NSX, ETC ETC?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i don't know if the crx calipers have the same boltup locations as the ex/da's but i have seen the mugen/big nissin calipers on a da so i can only ASSUME (since i am not 100% certain that they were bolt on).
anything is possible with an adapter plate/machine shop time.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">omniman wears glasses thou
i think the 4 lug itr was the 96 spec us itr.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there was no us spec 96 itr. only in japan.
there was a 97 itr-the only year with the early front, then there was 98, 00, and 01. 99 did not exist.
i think the 4 lug itr was the 96 spec us itr.</TD></TR></TABLE>there was no us spec 96 itr. only in japan.
there was a 97 itr-the only year with the early front, then there was 98, 00, and 01. 99 did not exist.
A sleeper (US English) or Q-car (British English) is a car that has high performance and an unassuming exterior. Sleeper cars are termed such because their exterior looks little or no different from a normal version of the car, but internally they are modified to perform at higher levels, thus they can catch the unaware "sleeping".
Some cars come like this from the factory to suit the tastes of those who want performance without drama, whether understatedness suits their chosen image or lifestyle, or because they do not wish to attract undue attention of the police. For instance, many high-performance sedans look hardly different from the lower-powered models in the range; for example, the Audi RS4, Acura TL Type-S, Cadillac CTS-V, Volvo S60R, Chrysler 300C SRT8, Mercury Marauder, Volkswagen Passat W8, 1996 Chevrolet Impala SS, Nissan Skyline GT-R, and the Dodge Charger SRT8, among others. Cars with external badging, or other visual elements that give the impression of high performance, are not true sleeper cars.
Other vehicle owners create sleepers by swapping more powerful engines, or other performance modifications like turbochargers, and leave the external appearance exactly the way it came from the factory. Sometimes hints of the car's true nature show if one looks and listens carefully: wider tires, a lower stance, or a different engine tone or exhaust note. Gauges and instrumentation are often kept to a minimum. Some owners go as far as to use weight reduction techniques employed by other performance enthusiasts, such as removing items not fundamental to street racing, such as rear seats, interior trim, spare tire, or even the heater.
In some countries, customized sleeper vehicles (as with other heavily modified street cars) may be considered illegal for road use, because the car's level of performance is higher than intended by the vehicle manufacturer; if the owner has focused only on straight-line performance, the existing braking, steering, tires, and suspension systems may have been rendered inadequate. The emissions control system (such as intake and exhaust restrictions, or the EGR system) is often bypassed or removed entirely in customized sleeper vehicles.
Owners sometimes reduce the evidence that their high-performance car is such by removing characteristic badging and trimmings. Sleeper cars often contain stock body work and wheels found on their less-capable brethren to better blend with other traffic and appear unassuming. Some owners simply like having performance without show, but a more predatory use of the sleeper is in street racing, where it is used to fool an opponent into underestimating a car's performance for the purposes of "hustling". Some have even gone so far as to leave their cars' exteriors banged up and rusting, and sometimes even causing additional rusting with the use of battery acid.
Sometimes sleepers will be cheaper to insure when compared to an equally fast sports car, but some insurance companies may refuse insurance to owners of heavily modified vehicles.
Some cars come like this from the factory to suit the tastes of those who want performance without drama, whether understatedness suits their chosen image or lifestyle, or because they do not wish to attract undue attention of the police. For instance, many high-performance sedans look hardly different from the lower-powered models in the range; for example, the Audi RS4, Acura TL Type-S, Cadillac CTS-V, Volvo S60R, Chrysler 300C SRT8, Mercury Marauder, Volkswagen Passat W8, 1996 Chevrolet Impala SS, Nissan Skyline GT-R, and the Dodge Charger SRT8, among others. Cars with external badging, or other visual elements that give the impression of high performance, are not true sleeper cars.
Other vehicle owners create sleepers by swapping more powerful engines, or other performance modifications like turbochargers, and leave the external appearance exactly the way it came from the factory. Sometimes hints of the car's true nature show if one looks and listens carefully: wider tires, a lower stance, or a different engine tone or exhaust note. Gauges and instrumentation are often kept to a minimum. Some owners go as far as to use weight reduction techniques employed by other performance enthusiasts, such as removing items not fundamental to street racing, such as rear seats, interior trim, spare tire, or even the heater.
In some countries, customized sleeper vehicles (as with other heavily modified street cars) may be considered illegal for road use, because the car's level of performance is higher than intended by the vehicle manufacturer; if the owner has focused only on straight-line performance, the existing braking, steering, tires, and suspension systems may have been rendered inadequate. The emissions control system (such as intake and exhaust restrictions, or the EGR system) is often bypassed or removed entirely in customized sleeper vehicles.
Owners sometimes reduce the evidence that their high-performance car is such by removing characteristic badging and trimmings. Sleeper cars often contain stock body work and wheels found on their less-capable brethren to better blend with other traffic and appear unassuming. Some owners simply like having performance without show, but a more predatory use of the sleeper is in street racing, where it is used to fool an opponent into underestimating a car's performance for the purposes of "hustling". Some have even gone so far as to leave their cars' exteriors banged up and rusting, and sometimes even causing additional rusting with the use of battery acid.
Sometimes sleepers will be cheaper to insure when compared to an equally fast sports car, but some insurance companies may refuse insurance to owners of heavily modified vehicles.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i don't know if the crx calipers have the same boltup locations as the ex/da's but i have seen the mugen/big nissin calipers on a da so i can only ASSUME (since i am not 100% certain that they were bolt on).
anything is possible with an adapter plate/machine shop time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks again...this also sheds alot of light on it (hope tyson doesnt mind)
i don't know if the crx calipers have the same boltup locations as the ex/da's but i have seen the mugen/big nissin calipers on a da so i can only ASSUME (since i am not 100% certain that they were bolt on).
anything is possible with an adapter plate/machine shop time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks again...this also sheds alot of light on it (hope tyson doesnt mind)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> there was no us spec 96 itr. only in japan. there was a 97 itr-the only year with the early front, then there was 98, 00, and 01. 99 did not exist.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i meant, i couldnt remember if it was 96 or 97
thats what i meant, i couldnt remember if it was 96 or 97
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">omniman wears glasses thou
i think the 4 lug itr was the 96 spec us itr. i also thought that with a b series type r motor (jdm, so maybe i mean b18c) in an ef, it would be able to do low 13s, high 12s (maybe its the driver)</TD></TR></TABLE>
im pretty sure there was no 4 lug itr in the US.
a 185whp motor in a fully trimmed civic STD on 14in pizza cutter tires will not do a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
high 13s on a good day, low 14s at palmdale.
i think the 4 lug itr was the 96 spec us itr. i also thought that with a b series type r motor (jdm, so maybe i mean b18c) in an ef, it would be able to do low 13s, high 12s (maybe its the driver)</TD></TR></TABLE>im pretty sure there was no 4 lug itr in the US.
a 185whp motor in a fully trimmed civic STD on 14in pizza cutter tires will not do a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
high 13s on a good day, low 14s at palmdale.
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actually what you mean is "earlier" model ITR. LATE model refers to "latest". im pretty sure my 13 yr old cousin knows that.
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thanks for clarifying that
actually what you mean is "earlier" model ITR. LATE model refers to "latest". im pretty sure my 13 yr old cousin knows that.
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thanks for clarifying that
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDicktonesx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im pretty sure there was no 4 lug itr in the US.
a 185whp motor in a fully trimmed civic STD on 14in pizza cutter tires will not do a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
high 13s on a good day, low 14s at palmdale. </TD></TR></TABLE>
low 14s? no...low 15s maybe...
im pretty sure there was no 4 lug itr in the US.
a 185whp motor in a fully trimmed civic STD on 14in pizza cutter tires will not do a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
high 13s on a good day, low 14s at palmdale. </TD></TR></TABLE>
low 14s? no...low 15s maybe...



