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Re: (NAallTheWAY)
It just might be the most god awefully slow thing I've ever driven. There is a little play in the wheel and it pulls slightly to the right sometimes. I was thinking tie rods.
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Re: (EFection)
I think it's worht probably about $1200, given the midwest, as long as it's rust free. bumper/tail lights are not a big deal. the wheels are not all on the correct side, fyi. It looks fairly dent free. Could the paint be buffed?
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The paint on most of it is ok, the hood is scratched bad and the roof has lost a bit of clear coat. Its not got a lot of rust but there is some. A minor pit around the corners of the quarters and a bit around the edges of the tail lights.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFection »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It just might be the most god awefully slow thing I've ever driven. There is a little play in the wheel and it pulls slightly to the right sometimes. I was thinking tie rods.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is dpfi. it makes about 70whp. no joke.
the play and the pull is most definately worn stock rubber bushings. havent bought a crx that i didnt have to replace them.
offer him a grand. buy some 400 dollar konig heliums and some lowering coilovers with decent shocks. fix the 3-4 rust spots and paint it flat black or olive drab. drive it until it dies and when it does, put a Z6 in it and drive it till it dies again. then jump it. far.
it is dpfi. it makes about 70whp. no joke.
the play and the pull is most definately worn stock rubber bushings. havent bought a crx that i didnt have to replace them.
offer him a grand. buy some 400 dollar konig heliums and some lowering coilovers with decent shocks. fix the 3-4 rust spots and paint it flat black or olive drab. drive it until it dies and when it does, put a Z6 in it and drive it till it dies again. then jump it. far.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it's worht probably about $1200, given the midwest, as long as it'srust free . bumper/tail lights are not a big deal. the wheels are not all on the correct side, fyi. It looks fairly dent free. Could the paint be buffed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (xDEFTONESx)
I've had an EF before and it was dpfi, it just felt faster.
I had a guy that was going to buy my EG the other day but he never showed up so I wasn't able to buy the car when I looked at it. Now hes sayin he doesnt know if he can still come.
I had a guy that was going to buy my EG the other day but he never showed up so I wasn't able to buy the car when I looked at it. Now hes sayin he doesnt know if he can still come.
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i was looking around because i plan to order a b16 from hmo this week but i have a few questions.
I was told to just order the engine,tranny, ecu instead of the complete changeover. Because you dont use the wiring harness,mounts, shift linkage.
I already have my a6 harness and i need to order a rywire vtec subharness, i have da axles and a Im shaft if i need it.
Any other things i need let me know.
Thanks.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchMo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was looking around because i plan to order a b16 from hmo this week but i have a few questions.
I was told to just order the engine,tranny, ecu instead of the complete changeover. Because you dont use the wiring harness,mounts, shift linkage.
I already have my a6 harness and i need to order a rywire vtec subharness, i have da axles and a Im shaft if i need it.
Any other things i need let me know.
Thanks.
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take the dust seals off the end of the axles
bang the frame rail near the alt.
integra radiator hoses
b series throttle cable maybe
you know its only a few hundred more to put a K24 in an EF these days if you know where to look? b16s are actually getting rare. thnk about it.
i was looking around because i plan to order a b16 from hmo this week but i have a few questions.
I was told to just order the engine,tranny, ecu instead of the complete changeover. Because you dont use the wiring harness,mounts, shift linkage.
I already have my a6 harness and i need to order a rywire vtec subharness, i have da axles and a Im shaft if i need it.
Any other things i need let me know.
Thanks.
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take the dust seals off the end of the axles
bang the frame rail near the alt.
integra radiator hoses
b series throttle cable maybe
you know its only a few hundred more to put a K24 in an EF these days if you know where to look? b16s are actually getting rare. thnk about it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> maybe you know its only a few hundred more to put a K24 in an EF these days if you know where to look? b16s are actually getting rare. thnk about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i thought the k24 doesnt fit in the ef chassis? i thought it is a little too tall. hell, if it fits with the ef chassis with an carbon sir style hood with no webbing (jdm and usdm), then i may be interested myself. 6 speed, lots of torque and 200 horsepower. cant beat that. who woulda thought that hondas could have torque.
Modified by gospeedgo1 at 6:14 PM 1/29/2007
i thought the k24 doesnt fit in the ef chassis? i thought it is a little too tall. hell, if it fits with the ef chassis with an carbon sir style hood with no webbing (jdm and usdm), then i may be interested myself. 6 speed, lots of torque and 200 horsepower. cant beat that. who woulda thought that hondas could have torque.
Modified by gospeedgo1 at 6:14 PM 1/29/2007
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchMo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im just going to do a b16 for now, Thanks alot chad.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a week after you get it running, youll be lookign for an LS block. i gurantee it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i thought the k24 doesnt fit in the ef chassis? i thought it it a little too tall. hell, if it fits with the ef chassis with an carbon sir style hood with no webbing (jdm and usdm), then i may be interested myself. 6 speed, lots of torque and 200 horsepower. cant beat that. who woulda thought that hondas could have torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a hood is a small sacrifice. the k24 to find is the element motor. its the straight non vtec one. all you have to do is switch the rocker assembly from the vtec head, not the whole vtec head. then youre looking at a 230horse motor with a k-pro.
a week after you get it running, youll be lookign for an LS block. i gurantee it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i thought the k24 doesnt fit in the ef chassis? i thought it it a little too tall. hell, if it fits with the ef chassis with an carbon sir style hood with no webbing (jdm and usdm), then i may be interested myself. 6 speed, lots of torque and 200 horsepower. cant beat that. who woulda thought that hondas could have torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a hood is a small sacrifice. the k24 to find is the element motor. its the straight non vtec one. all you have to do is switch the rocker assembly from the vtec head, not the whole vtec head. then youre looking at a 230horse motor with a k-pro.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a hood is a small sacrifice. the k24 to find is the element motor. its the straight non vtec one. all you have to do is switch the rocker assembly from the vtec head, not the whole vtec head. then youre looking at a 230horse motor with a k-pro.</TD></TR></TABLE>
really, is this on pump gas also?? hmmm.... i dont remember seeing this development on the all motor forum. i know they are doing k24/k20 head frankenstiens. so, is this what they are doing?
really, is this on pump gas also?? hmmm.... i dont remember seeing this development on the all motor forum. i know they are doing k24/k20 head frankenstiens. so, is this what they are doing?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the k24 to find is the element motor. its the straight non vtec one. all you have to do is switch the rocker assembly from the vtec head, not the whole vtec head. then youre looking at a 230horse motor with a k-pro.</TD></TR></TABLE>wow...
the k24 to find is the element motor. its the straight non vtec one. all you have to do is switch the rocker assembly from the vtec head, not the whole vtec head. then youre looking at a 230horse motor with a k-pro.</TD></TR></TABLE>wow...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
really, is this on pump gas also?? hmmm.... i dont remember seeing this development on the all motor forum. i know they are doing k24/k20 head frankenstiens. so, is this what they are doing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats cuz i didnt read it there. you see, the benifit with the B series isnt only the vtev, its that the head itself flows better than the LS head.
but with the K series, the best flowing head is the element head. and all you need is a i-vtec rocekr assembly. you can also get the 5 speed EP3 trannies for cheap and throw a dash shifter in it.
it is my more than educated opinion that as every single day passes, it is getting dumber and dumber to put a B series in your car and not put a K series in it.
1 motor has been out of production since 2001 model year, 1 is still being made.
by the way, i saw the turbo acura SUV today and i am literally calling every yard and leaving my number so i can be the first one to get my greasy hands on that motor and make an adapter plate for the manual 6 speed tranny.
honda factory 300hp turbo k series swap with factory 6 speed. it would be an all oem mid 11 second car that oculd probably do 400hp on the stock turbo.
jsut remember the first place you read "adapter plate for the 2.3L turbo K"
really, is this on pump gas also?? hmmm.... i dont remember seeing this development on the all motor forum. i know they are doing k24/k20 head frankenstiens. so, is this what they are doing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats cuz i didnt read it there. you see, the benifit with the B series isnt only the vtev, its that the head itself flows better than the LS head.
but with the K series, the best flowing head is the element head. and all you need is a i-vtec rocekr assembly. you can also get the 5 speed EP3 trannies for cheap and throw a dash shifter in it.
it is my more than educated opinion that as every single day passes, it is getting dumber and dumber to put a B series in your car and not put a K series in it.
1 motor has been out of production since 2001 model year, 1 is still being made.
by the way, i saw the turbo acura SUV today and i am literally calling every yard and leaving my number so i can be the first one to get my greasy hands on that motor and make an adapter plate for the manual 6 speed tranny.
honda factory 300hp turbo k series swap with factory 6 speed. it would be an all oem mid 11 second car that oculd probably do 400hp on the stock turbo.
jsut remember the first place you read "adapter plate for the 2.3L turbo K"
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that isnt ****. "the tea father" is doing 307. there are a couple guys doing 270-280 with the combination i mentioned. this is what i have read, i wasnt tanding at the dyno, but i saw the sheets.
that isnt ****. "the tea father" is doing 307. there are a couple guys doing 270-280 with the combination i mentioned. this is what i have read, i wasnt tanding at the dyno, but i saw the sheets.
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your talking about the new RDX motor? i thought someone bought one already and took it apart (mainly to see if they could put stuff in the K but was not the same). i thought i saw it on either the forced induction or the allmotor forum a while back. im more of an allmotor person, i didnt really like the 1.8t in my gti, cousins jetta. the vr6 felt so much smoother and nicer.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gospeedgo1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your talking about the new RDX motor? i thought someone bought one already and took it apart (mainly to see if they could put stuff in the K but was not the same). i thought i saw it on either the forced induction or the allmotor forum a while back. im more of an allmotor person, i didnt really like the 1.8t in my gti, cousins jetta. the vr6 felt so much smoother and nicer. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i just got rid of my mk3 gti vr6 drivers edition. the whole motor will work with an adapter plate. its just a destroked k24 with an awd tranny.
i just got rid of my mk3 gti vr6 drivers edition. the whole motor will work with an adapter plate. its just a destroked k24 with an awd tranny.
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K23A1
Turbocharged
Found in:
2007 Acura RDX
Displacement: 2300 cc (acura.com)
Compression: 8.8:1 (acura.com)
Power: 240 hp @ 6000 rpm (SAE net)
Torque: 260 ft·lbf @ 4500 rpm (SAE net)
Redline: 6800 (acura.com)
Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 99 mm
The RDX is powered by Acura’s first turbocharged engine. The 2.3-liter I4 K23A1 engine has all-aluminum construction, an i-VTEC head, and dual balance shafts. Acura’s variable flow turbocharger reduces turbo lag by using a valve to narrow the exhaust passage at low rpm, increasing the velocity of the exhaust flow and keeping the turbine spinning rapidly. At higher rpm, the valve opens to allow more exhaust flow for increased boost. The engine also features a top-mounted intercooler which receives air from the grille, channeled by ducting under the hood. The Acura RDX engine is rated at 240 bhp @ 6000 rpm with a torque peak of 260 ft·lbf. @ 4500. The EPA estimated fuel mileage is 19 city and 23 highway miles per gallon. The recommended fuel is premium unleaded.
Turbocharged
Found in:
2007 Acura RDX
Displacement: 2300 cc (acura.com)
Compression: 8.8:1 (acura.com)
Power: 240 hp @ 6000 rpm (SAE net)
Torque: 260 ft·lbf @ 4500 rpm (SAE net)
Redline: 6800 (acura.com)
Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 99 mm
The RDX is powered by Acura’s first turbocharged engine. The 2.3-liter I4 K23A1 engine has all-aluminum construction, an i-VTEC head, and dual balance shafts. Acura’s variable flow turbocharger reduces turbo lag by using a valve to narrow the exhaust passage at low rpm, increasing the velocity of the exhaust flow and keeping the turbine spinning rapidly. At higher rpm, the valve opens to allow more exhaust flow for increased boost. The engine also features a top-mounted intercooler which receives air from the grille, channeled by ducting under the hood. The Acura RDX engine is rated at 240 bhp @ 6000 rpm with a torque peak of 260 ft·lbf. @ 4500. The EPA estimated fuel mileage is 19 city and 23 highway miles per gallon. The recommended fuel is premium unleaded.