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From: Hessian Aggression
Re: (mekanism)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mekanism »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hey just as a suggestion you may want to strip the majority of the old paint off and do your body work on bare metal. It makes things much easier when trying to blend and feather the filler. If your not careful you will see where the filler and old paint meet up after you color sand when filling over old paint.
If you are simply doing spot repairs then you have no choice, but by the looks of things it looks like you are doing a full refinish. Just a thought!
Looking good by the way!
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the car was taken down to the bare metal, high/low spots were addressed wit ha light skinning. i then mixed the primer 40/60 instead of 60/40 with reducer so it layed down real thick. i THEN blocked the entire car again. this is why is looks like it does. but its smooth as can be. i spent the most time aligning body panels probably. did the doors with a jack.
Hey just as a suggestion you may want to strip the majority of the old paint off and do your body work on bare metal. It makes things much easier when trying to blend and feather the filler. If your not careful you will see where the filler and old paint meet up after you color sand when filling over old paint.
If you are simply doing spot repairs then you have no choice, but by the looks of things it looks like you are doing a full refinish. Just a thought!
Looking good by the way!
</TD></TR></TABLE>the car was taken down to the bare metal, high/low spots were addressed wit ha light skinning. i then mixed the primer 40/60 instead of 60/40 with reducer so it layed down real thick. i THEN blocked the entire car again. this is why is looks like it does. but its smooth as can be. i spent the most time aligning body panels probably. did the doors with a jack.
Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the car was taken down to the bare metal, high/low spots were addressed wit ha light skinning. i then mixed the primer 40/60 instead of 60/40 with reducer so it layed down real thick. i THEN blocked the entire car again. this is why is looks like it does. but its smooth as can be. i spent the most time aligning body panels probably. did the doors with a jack.
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What color is it going to be? Blade?
the car was taken down to the bare metal, high/low spots were addressed wit ha light skinning. i then mixed the primer 40/60 instead of 60/40 with reducer so it layed down real thick. i THEN blocked the entire car again. this is why is looks like it does. but its smooth as can be. i spent the most time aligning body panels probably. did the doors with a jack.
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What color is it going to be? Blade?
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From: Hessian Aggression
Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What color is it going to be? Blade?</TD></TR></TABLE>
hood roof and hatch panel are HOK super jet black and the car is blade silver. im leaving the handles and mirrors stock because
1. ill probably replace the mirrors with some fake spoon looking ones soon.
2. the handles are one more place for me to scratch.
this little primer trick worked really well mixing it 40/60. id reccomend it.
What color is it going to be? Blade?</TD></TR></TABLE>
hood roof and hatch panel are HOK super jet black and the car is blade silver. im leaving the handles and mirrors stock because
1. ill probably replace the mirrors with some fake spoon looking ones soon.
2. the handles are one more place for me to scratch.
this little primer trick worked really well mixing it 40/60. id reccomend it.
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Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hood roof and hatch panel are HOK super jet black and the car is blade silver. im leaving the handles and mirrors stock because
1. ill probably replace the mirrors with some fake spoon looking ones soon.
2. the handles are one more place for me to scratch.
this little primer trick worked really well mixing it 40/60. id reccomend it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I look foward to seeing it.
Come tax time mine will be painted too. I'm gonna get it prep'd this weekend for the cage. I'm still debating on the color.
hood roof and hatch panel are HOK super jet black and the car is blade silver. im leaving the handles and mirrors stock because
1. ill probably replace the mirrors with some fake spoon looking ones soon.
2. the handles are one more place for me to scratch.
this little primer trick worked really well mixing it 40/60. id reccomend it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I look foward to seeing it.
Come tax time mine will be painted too. I'm gonna get it prep'd this weekend for the cage. I'm still debating on the color.
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From: Hessian Aggression
Re: (NAallTheWAY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAallTheWAY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I look foward to seeing it.
Come tax time mine will be painted too. I'm gonna get it prep'd this weekend for the cage. I'm still debating on the color.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im sprayin mine with the black when we spray the hood. then im wrapping it with a **** load of newspaper for the install.
i still need a good place to get raingutter seals and rear window seals. anyone? none of the honda parts sites list em.
I look foward to seeing it.
Come tax time mine will be painted too. I'm gonna get it prep'd this weekend for the cage. I'm still debating on the color.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im sprayin mine with the black when we spray the hood. then im wrapping it with a **** load of newspaper for the install.
i still need a good place to get raingutter seals and rear window seals. anyone? none of the honda parts sites list em.
Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hood roof and hatch panel are HOK super jet black and the car is blade silver. im leaving the handles and mirrors stock because
1. ill probably replace the mirrors with some fake spoon looking ones soon.
2. the handles are one more place for me to scratch.
this little primer trick worked really well mixing it 40/60. id reccomend it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Black handles on silver What kind of primer or you useing a high build? What paint system you useing nad are u spraying it yourself?
hood roof and hatch panel are HOK super jet black and the car is blade silver. im leaving the handles and mirrors stock because
1. ill probably replace the mirrors with some fake spoon looking ones soon.
2. the handles are one more place for me to scratch.
this little primer trick worked really well mixing it 40/60. id reccomend it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Black handles on silver
What kind of primer or you useing a high build? What paint system you useing nad are u spraying it yourself?
Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im sprayin mine with the black when we spray the hood. then im wrapping it with a **** load of newspaper for the install.
i still need a good place to get raingutter seals and rear window seals. anyone? none of the honda parts sites list em.</TD></TR></TABLE>
gutters
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+TRIM
window seals
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...HIELD
im sprayin mine with the black when we spray the hood. then im wrapping it with a **** load of newspaper for the install.
i still need a good place to get raingutter seals and rear window seals. anyone? none of the honda parts sites list em.</TD></TR></TABLE>
gutters
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+TRIM
window seals
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...HIELD
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From: Hessian Aggression
Re: (Boosted Chemist)
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Black handles on silver What kind of primer or you useing a high build? What paint system you useing nad are u spraying it yourself?</TD></TR></TABLE>
its a highbuild that is supposed to be mixed 60%reducer, 40% primer and i did it 60primer and 40 reducer. the name of the HVLP is on the tip of my tongue, cant think of it. there are 3 diff guns including a small little 4-6 ounce one for doing a-pillars. i primed it but i dont quite trust myself to spray it. the new owner of iceman is actually spraying it. ordered all the paint at carquest believe it or not. but its a franchised one that sells all kinds of wild ****. the silver is PPG and the black is HOK, whoever makes their paint for them.
the guy who sold me the paint talked me out of the bronze clear. told me it would make the silver look brown. im just going to buff the **** out of the clear to get it to look a foot deep.
im typing this and looking up at the assword:jdm add and just laughing at those ********. 1200 for a si-r front with NO hood, NO lip and dicked up fenders. hahahaha
Black handles on silver
What kind of primer or you useing a high build? What paint system you useing nad are u spraying it yourself?</TD></TR></TABLE>its a highbuild that is supposed to be mixed 60%reducer, 40% primer and i did it 60primer and 40 reducer. the name of the HVLP is on the tip of my tongue, cant think of it. there are 3 diff guns including a small little 4-6 ounce one for doing a-pillars. i primed it but i dont quite trust myself to spray it. the new owner of iceman is actually spraying it. ordered all the paint at carquest believe it or not. but its a franchised one that sells all kinds of wild ****. the silver is PPG and the black is HOK, whoever makes their paint for them.
the guy who sold me the paint talked me out of the bronze clear. told me it would make the silver look brown. im just going to buff the **** out of the clear to get it to look a foot deep.
im typing this and looking up at the assword:jdm add and just laughing at those ********. 1200 for a si-r front with NO hood, NO lip and dicked up fenders. hahahaha
Re: (xDEFTONESx)
carquest is the **** expletive assword, im sure they are running out of business by now. IS the primer a chemical reaction with the reducer or the reducer just a solvent that evaporates?
expletive assword, im sure they are running out of business by now. IS the primer a chemical reaction with the reducer or the reducer just a solvent that evaporates?
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
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Black handles on silver </TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed
Black handles on silver
</TD></TR></TABLE>agreed
Re: (Autoworks)
So I think the time has come to sell my yota 4x4, gas is way too much for my poor college *** 
Im in the market for a stock clean Ef hb (pref si), if anyone knows of any please hit me up.
Im in the market for a stock clean Ef hb (pref si), if anyone knows of any please hit me up.
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From: Tornado Alley
Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
gutters
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+TRIM
window seals
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...HIELD
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I'm going to save this for later. I pulled pretty much all the exterior trim and trashed it. Most of it was discolored and/or cracked, especially the ext window trim on the door, the one right below the mirror. I'm going to buy all new stuff when I buy the new 88-89 moldings.
Chad - I've found that http://www.hondapartsdeals.com usually has the best prices and the widest variety of OEM stuff. I've often found parts on there that were no longer available in dealerships or anywhere else online. That may not be the case with the trim, though, I haven't cecked.
gutters
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+TRIM
window seals
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...HIELD
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I'm going to save this for later. I pulled pretty much all the exterior trim and trashed it. Most of it was discolored and/or cracked, especially the ext window trim on the door, the one right below the mirror. I'm going to buy all new stuff when I buy the new 88-89 moldings.
Chad - I've found that http://www.hondapartsdeals.com usually has the best prices and the widest variety of OEM stuff. I've often found parts on there that were no longer available in dealerships or anywhere else online. That may not be the case with the trim, though, I haven't cecked.
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Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the car was taken down to the bare metal, high/low spots were addressed wit ha light skinning. i then mixed the primer 40/60 instead of 60/40 with reducer so it layed down real thick. i THEN blocked the entire car again. this is why is looks like it does. but its smooth as can be. i spent the most time aligning body panels probably. did the doors with a jack.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh ok it sounds like you know what you are doing. As far as the primer goes as long as you sanded most of it back off it will be fine, but high build primers tend to shrink over time if you leave it thick. Basically you just use a high build primer to fill in sanding scratches, not for a fill. After that I would recommend an epoxy primer used as a sealer before applying the base.
Oh ok it sounds like you know what you are doing. As far as the primer goes as long as you sanded most of it back off it will be fine, but high build primers tend to shrink over time if you leave it thick. Basically you just use a high build primer to fill in sanding scratches, not for a fill. After that I would recommend an epoxy primer used as a sealer before applying the base.
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From: Tornado Alley
Re: (mekanism)
Hot Rod magazine does an annual paint/body issue that is pretty useful. I learned a lot. Tips/tricks from peeps like Socal Speed Shop and the best body/paint/media blasting guys in the biz.
I ran across this pic. I thought I'd share...
I ran across this pic. I thought I'd share...
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From: Tornado Alley
Re: (mekanism)
mekanism - I'd like to see some pics of your bay again. What did you do to smooth out the fender well area on the driver side? I've done some hammer/dolly action on mine but it's still not real flat. TIA
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From: Hessian Aggression
Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">carquest is the **** expletive assword, im sure they are running out of business by now. IS the primer a chemical reaction with the reducer or the reducer just a solvent that evaporates?</TD></TR></TABLE>
theres no reaction. just a thinner. i just thinned it less. mainly for the engine bay.
i took a wirewheel to all the glue on the seams under the hood. i didnt remove it, i just kind of blended it in. im using the thick primer to fill in the wirewheel marks and contour the bay a little better in those areas.
anyone ever notice how different the engine bay is on an 88 compared to a 90 or 91? metal is stamped all different. glue is in diff places.
thanks for the links. if anyone knows where the body shops get them from lemme know as well.
expletive assword, im sure they are running out of business by now. IS the primer a chemical reaction with the reducer or the reducer just a solvent that evaporates?</TD></TR></TABLE>theres no reaction. just a thinner. i just thinned it less. mainly for the engine bay.
i took a wirewheel to all the glue on the seams under the hood. i didnt remove it, i just kind of blended it in. im using the thick primer to fill in the wirewheel marks and contour the bay a little better in those areas.
anyone ever notice how different the engine bay is on an 88 compared to a 90 or 91? metal is stamped all different. glue is in diff places.
thanks for the links. if anyone knows where the body shops get them from lemme know as well.
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From: Hessian Aggression
Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
theres no reaction. just a thinner. i just thinned it less. mainly for the engine bay.
i took a wirewheel to all the glue on the seams under the hood. i didnt remove it, i just kind of blended it in. im using the thick primer to fill in the wirewheel marks and contour the bay a little better in those areas.
anyone ever notice how different the engine bay is on an 88 compared to a 90 or 91? metal is stamped all different. glue is in diff places.
thanks for the links. if anyone knows where the body shops get them from lemme know as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
edit: im going to compression test this b16 i have and it if comes out around 200 across all 4 i think i might put about 10-12psi to it.
theres no reaction. just a thinner. i just thinned it less. mainly for the engine bay.
i took a wirewheel to all the glue on the seams under the hood. i didnt remove it, i just kind of blended it in. im using the thick primer to fill in the wirewheel marks and contour the bay a little better in those areas.
anyone ever notice how different the engine bay is on an 88 compared to a 90 or 91? metal is stamped all different. glue is in diff places.
thanks for the links. if anyone knows where the body shops get them from lemme know as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
edit: im going to compression test this b16 i have and it if comes out around 200 across all 4 i think i might put about 10-12psi to it.
Re: (xDEFTONESx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
edit: im going to compression test this b16 i have and it if comes out around 200 across all 4 i think i might put about 10-12psi to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
boost? First gens HATE boost. Ive seen 4-5 of them (including mine) that where tuned properly and decided one day the ringland wanted to throw the towel and give up. Idk y it just happens
edit: im going to compression test this b16 i have and it if comes out around 200 across all 4 i think i might put about 10-12psi to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
boost? First gens HATE boost. Ive seen 4-5 of them (including mine) that where tuned properly and decided one day the ringland wanted to throw the towel and give up. Idk y it just happens
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When are we going to see some one man up and do this to a EF bay (minus the gay green theme of coarse)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do what to an EF bay?
Do what to an EF bay?
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Re: (NAallTheWAY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAallTheWAY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hot Rod magazine does an annual paint/body issue that is pretty useful. I learned a lot. Tips/tricks from peeps like Socal Speed Shop and the best body/paint/media blasting guys in the biz.
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Yes! That article was badass, havent read that much since the 90's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 Fly SI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way my name is Thomas</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hello im Chase :EF handshake:
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Yes! That article was badass, havent read that much since the 90's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 Fly SI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way my name is Thomas</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hello im Chase :EF handshake:
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Re: (EF8kid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF8kid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes! That article was badass, havent read that much since the 90's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Me either, not since it was required.
Me either, not since it was required.