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Re: (RSZero1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RSZero1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1989Civicsi - what will I need for the update? I know i would have needed the manifold, but that will be replaced by the SC manifold, so that part will be done. 99Si ECU would be helpful, 2 O2's? Anything engine wise that I will need to tap and add sensors?</TD></TR></TABLE>
To be completely honest with you, I'm not too well versed in OBD2 emissions equipment. Hell, I'm not even sure if it'd be worth it (more tuning options with OBD1/less headache?). Hopefully someone else can chime in with what's required.
1989Civicsi - what will I need for the update? I know i would have needed the manifold, but that will be replaced by the SC manifold, so that part will be done. 99Si ECU would be helpful, 2 O2's? Anything engine wise that I will need to tap and add sensors?</TD></TR></TABLE>
To be completely honest with you, I'm not too well versed in OBD2 emissions equipment. Hell, I'm not even sure if it'd be worth it (more tuning options with OBD1/less headache?). Hopefully someone else can chime in with what's required.
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Re: (Stefndogg)
oops, misread the previous convition, stef's right, that is considered probable cause, within reasonable passage of time. Other words, if you kept a clean record, you should not continue to be hassled on it 6 years from now, but it is officer's discretion in most cases, so ...
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Re: (1989CivicSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've had my hood popped because of a burnt out rear license plate bulb back up in NorCal 
. In actuality, my plate was lighting up just fine.
I understand the logic of the argument/waste of time, but the thing is if you've nothing to hide then you've nothing to lose. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh I had plenty to hide. It was gonna be my second offense of possession. I would of at least lost my license for 6mo again, and went to jail for a month. I had weed, and a pipe in the car. Which was irrelevant though for he still had no reason to search my car. Afterwords, I removed those items from my car. I think of it as a sign. No more riddin' dirty for me. Except I have not a cat or a charcoal canister in any of my cars.
. In actuality, my plate was lighting up just fine. I understand the logic of the argument/waste of time, but the thing is if you've nothing to hide then you've nothing to lose. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh I had plenty to hide. It was gonna be my second offense of possession. I would of at least lost my license for 6mo again, and went to jail for a month. I had weed, and a pipe in the car. Which was irrelevant though for he still had no reason to search my car. Afterwords, I removed those items from my car. I think of it as a sign. No more riddin' dirty for me. Except I have not a cat or a charcoal canister in any of my cars.
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Re: (1989CivicSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
To be completely honest with you, I'm not too well versed in OBD2 emissions equipment. Hell, I'm not even sure if it'd be worth it (more tuning options with OBD1/less headache?). Hopefully someone else can chime in with what's required.
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Dangit. I'm not too worried about further tuning potential, as the B with the SC smog legal would keep me happy. legal being the key word.
To be completely honest with you, I'm not too well versed in OBD2 emissions equipment. Hell, I'm not even sure if it'd be worth it (more tuning options with OBD1/less headache?). Hopefully someone else can chime in with what's required.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Dangit. I'm not too worried about further tuning potential, as the B with the SC smog legal would keep me happy. legal being the key word.
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Re: (Stefndogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stefndogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im pretty sure in cali all they need is probable cause(which your drug-related prior would qualify as)...i understand it sucks but everyone i know with similar priors has had to deal with a certain amount of harassment from cops</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not probable cause here. They have to smell, see, or hear something. A past record is just the past.
im pretty sure in cali all they need is probable cause(which your drug-related prior would qualify as)...i understand it sucks but everyone i know with similar priors has had to deal with a certain amount of harassment from cops</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not probable cause here. They have to smell, see, or hear something. A past record is just the past.
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Re: (Rywire)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rywire »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gastank sensor, immob equipped ecu, 2nd o2, p2t ecu, tuning sux, these are things to consider...</TD></TR></TABLE>
IF you have a K, buy K Pro. If you have a B,D,H,F, then do a chipped OBD1 ECU, and use a DIY program to edit it. Those are really the only good choices. Then again I live in Ohio so, I don't know how smog works. I know there are many ways around it though.
IF you have a K, buy K Pro. If you have a B,D,H,F, then do a chipped OBD1 ECU, and use a DIY program to edit it. Those are really the only good choices. Then again I live in Ohio so, I don't know how smog works. I know there are many ways around it though.
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Re: (Rywire)
yeah they are, but if i can have the whole shebang legal, BAR'd and running, it'd feel pretty good.
I'm not in a rush to get things completed, just want to make sure I am not doing things twice.
I'm not in a rush to get things completed, just want to make sure I am not doing things twice.
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Re: (RSZero1)
Can anyone tell me the flange i need for this turbo? Its like a weird 5 bolt, I think the the down pipe has a the t3 5 bolt like everyone else has.
more pics http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/itschillylol/
halp!
Modified by Folgers at 3:14 PM 10/1/2008
more pics http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/itschillylol/
halp!
Modified by Folgers at 3:14 PM 10/1/2008
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Re: (CRXBart)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
IF you have a K, buy K Pro. If you have a B,D,H,F, then do a chipped OBD1 ECU, and use a DIY program to edit it. Those are really the only good choices. Then again I live in Ohio so, I don't know how smog works. I know there are many ways around it though. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If I could get away with that, I'd love it, but no, CA is needlessly complicated on that point.
EDIT: And Folgers, I have to admit, that avatar is a bit disturbing, I see an image of some guy pissing in my morning coffee.
Modified by RSZero1 at 12:12 PM 10/1/2008
IF you have a K, buy K Pro. If you have a B,D,H,F, then do a chipped OBD1 ECU, and use a DIY program to edit it. Those are really the only good choices. Then again I live in Ohio so, I don't know how smog works. I know there are many ways around it though. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If I could get away with that, I'd love it, but no, CA is needlessly complicated on that point.
EDIT: And Folgers, I have to admit, that avatar is a bit disturbing, I see an image of some guy pissing in my morning coffee.
Modified by RSZero1 at 12:12 PM 10/1/2008
Re: (1989CivicSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
To be completely honest with you, I'm not too well versed in OBD2 emissions equipment. Hell, I'm not even sure if it'd be worth it (more tuning options with OBD1/less headache?). Hopefully someone else can chime in with what's required.
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you can probably convert to obd2 and run apexi power fc.
To be completely honest with you, I'm not too well versed in OBD2 emissions equipment. Hell, I'm not even sure if it'd be worth it (more tuning options with OBD1/less headache?). Hopefully someone else can chime in with what's required.
</TD></TR></TABLE>you can probably convert to obd2 and run apexi power fc.
Re: (Folgers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Folgers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can anyone tell me the flange i need for this turbo? Its like a weird 5 bolt, I think the the down pipe has a the t3 5 bolt like everyone else has.
more pics http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/itschillylol/
halp!
Modified by Folgers at 3:14 PM 10/1/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like a Chrysler 5 bolt
more pics http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/itschillylol/
halp!
Modified by Folgers at 3:14 PM 10/1/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like a Chrysler 5 bolt
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Re: (89hatcher)
RSZ: Its simply not worth it to go obd2b. Early obd2a (like '97) is a different story and is much easier. Ref the b16 stock and add what u want.
CRXbart: Cops in general arent stupid. If you've got a prior for drugs, then chances are you'll have some on you if/when a cop comes into contact w/ you (generally it seems people never learn). Turns out the cop was right! Dont blame your stupidity on the cop. He's doing his job any way he can. You are being sneaky, and at the same time u get pissed off at him for doing the same? LOL.
CRXbart: Cops in general arent stupid. If you've got a prior for drugs, then chances are you'll have some on you if/when a cop comes into contact w/ you (generally it seems people never learn). Turns out the cop was right! Dont blame your stupidity on the cop. He's doing his job any way he can. You are being sneaky, and at the same time u get pissed off at him for doing the same? LOL.
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
Anybody commute by bicycle? I just got into road biking/bought my first real roadbike (Felt F75)...after racing my roommate to school I couldn't say no, lol. 15 mins by car in the morning traffic, 8 mins by road bike just cruising along. 
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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1900 for the crx isnt bad at all. Looks sharp 
What ever happened to ZZZZZ that red civic std with the b18c5? I havent seen pics of that car in a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea...anybody have pics of that car? it was my favorite!
What ever happened to ZZZZZ that red civic std with the b18c5? I havent seen pics of that car in a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>yea...anybody have pics of that car? it was my favorite!
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Re: (UltimX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UltimX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">typical 5 bolt flange u can get at most places that sell turbo parts or diy manifold places</TD></TR></TABLE>
My buddy had a 5 bolt flange laying around and it matched the dp not the turbo. this one is just slightly different.
My buddy had a 5 bolt flange laying around and it matched the dp not the turbo. this one is just slightly different.
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Re: (CRXBart)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh I had plenty to hide. It was gonna be my second offense of possession. I would of at least lost my license for 6mo again, and went to jail for a month. I had weed, and a pipe in the car. Which was irrelevant though for he still had no reason to search my car. Afterwords, I removed those items from my car. I think of it as a sign. No more riddin' dirty for me. Except I have not a cat or a charcoal canister in any of my cars. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Given your prior, the officer had "reason to believe," not exactly "probable cause." He knew that perfectly well, which is why he asked to perform the search. When you denied his request, he pushed the issue by bluffing on the K9 unit. Many people would have fallen for his bluff and given permission for the search, which would validate his search and in turn cause any paraphernalia he might find to be permissible evidence against you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It cracks me up they think they can trample on your civil rights like that. He had no right to search my car, but since I had a prior, he felt like he should.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He was doing his job and it sounds like he did respect your civil rights by not performing the search.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Given your prior, the officer had "reason to believe," not exactly "probable cause." He knew that perfectly well, which is why he asked to perform the search. When you denied his request, he pushed the issue by bluffing on the K9 unit. Many people would have fallen for his bluff and given permission for the search, which would validate his search and in turn cause any paraphernalia he might find to be permissible evidence against you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It cracks me up they think they can trample on your civil rights like that. He had no right to search my car, but since I had a prior, he felt like he should.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He was doing his job and it sounds like he did respect your civil rights by not performing the search.
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Re: (Smokinsax)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smokinsax »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its illegal to lie to a cop...but not illegal for a cop to lie to you. 
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Its illegal both ways, you just need to be trained in semantics and know the loopholes.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Its illegal both ways, you just need to be trained in semantics and know the loopholes.
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
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He was doing his job and it sounds like he did respect your civil rights by not performing the search. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm going to agree with you here. C'mon, Bart, you have a prior. On top of that, you HAVE NOT learned your lesson...which is evident by you having weed and a pipe in the car
I neither empathize or support your rants on cops.
He was doing his job and it sounds like he did respect your civil rights by not performing the search.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm going to agree with you here. C'mon, Bart, you have a prior. On top of that, you HAVE NOT learned your lesson...which is evident by you having weed and a pipe in the car
I neither empathize or support your rants on cops.
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Re: (g2_teg_)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g2_teg_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cops used to bother me when i broke the law. i've done my best to stop and they've left me alone. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Same.
Same.