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I stand corrected then.
I stand corrected then.
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you think so? Here is his graph and information on pulls. oh yea, this was also on a dyno dynamics dyno. I was told these tend to read lower than most dynos.
1st one- stock ITR ecu w/ 3in intake, DC race header, 2.5 exhaust, ACT clutch/ flywheel
2nd one- Kpro ECU with stock A2 map and same mods
3rd one- Kpro base map w/ Nextgear IM gasket and BPM velocity stack and K&N filter
4th one- Final tuned map
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dynamics do read low. an 07 zo6 put down 397 to the wheels on a local dyno. heres the video. second video down
http://www.kaizenspeed.com/dyno/
you think so? Here is his graph and information on pulls. oh yea, this was also on a dyno dynamics dyno. I was told these tend to read lower than most dynos.
1st one- stock ITR ecu w/ 3in intake, DC race header, 2.5 exhaust, ACT clutch/ flywheel
2nd one- Kpro ECU with stock A2 map and same mods
3rd one- Kpro base map w/ Nextgear IM gasket and BPM velocity stack and K&N filter
4th one- Final tuned map
</TD></TR></TABLE>dynamics do read low. an 07 zo6 put down 397 to the wheels on a local dyno. heres the video. second video down
http://www.kaizenspeed.com/dyno/
hey guys! This is an old pic of my old car way back like 2003 I think...but great reason to run steel hoodpins for you guys running aluminum
I didn't even know this was happening untill the photographer came down and showed me lol.
this is fiberglass like 8lbs
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:48 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:48 PM 5/16/2008
I didn't even know this was happening untill the photographer came down and showed me lol.
this is fiberglass like 8lbs
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:48 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:48 PM 5/16/2008
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This is my old sawybar...it was on my car from 98 ish - 2004 I ran everything from eibach-H&R-1000lbs ERS
The bar never moved or tore out and only was removed one time so I can redrill the endlink hole. I never saw a swaybar reinforcement plate like they have these days back then. I plated the bar on both sites of the subframe(gas tank side).
Drove it on the street and track and put 1000's of km on it.
Why do it like this? well it's light and cheap and works.
Though I've never felt the weight of one of those reinforcement plates, I would run one of them now if I was to do it again.....if its too heavy I can always drill it full of holes lol


Modified by 89civicdx at 7:44 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:46 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:50 PM 5/16/2008
This is my old sawybar...it was on my car from 98 ish - 2004 I ran everything from eibach-H&R-1000lbs ERS
The bar never moved or tore out and only was removed one time so I can redrill the endlink hole. I never saw a swaybar reinforcement plate like they have these days back then. I plated the bar on both sites of the subframe(gas tank side).
Drove it on the street and track and put 1000's of km on it.
Why do it like this? well it's light and cheap and works.
Though I've never felt the weight of one of those reinforcement plates, I would run one of them now if I was to do it again.....if its too heavy I can always drill it full of holes lol


Modified by 89civicdx at 7:44 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:46 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:50 PM 5/16/2008
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didn't even notice until i got home.
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I love that pic and the wheels
didn't even notice until i got home.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I love that pic and the wheels
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wow Polycarbonate? whats that from?
</TD></TR></TABLE>wow Polycarbonate? whats that from?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nickrps »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone else see how bad the front wheel deflection is while under heavy braking? That's with BRAND NEW OEM front LCA bushings and an Innovative crossmember with poly bushings
Oh, and can you say stiffer front spring rates? I'm about to drag my crossmember

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You sit higher than the area the rollbar will protect you(just draw a line from the top of the hoop to the top of your hood. You should lower your seat or get the front half done. I'm not preaching just telling you what I see
You will get hurt if it goes over....it will hurt
i don't want to see that
But car looks great....oh ya rod-ends are your friend lol.
Modified by 89civicdx at 8:48 PM 5/16/2008
Oh, and can you say stiffer front spring rates? I'm about to drag my crossmember

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You sit higher than the area the rollbar will protect you(just draw a line from the top of the hoop to the top of your hood. You should lower your seat or get the front half done. I'm not preaching just telling you what I see
You will get hurt if it goes over....it will hurt
i don't want to see that
But car looks great....oh ya rod-ends are your friend lol.
Modified by 89civicdx at 8:48 PM 5/16/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89civicdx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys! This is an old pic of my old car way back like 2003 I think...but great reason to run steel hoodpins for you guys running aluminum
I didn't even know this was happening untill the photographer came down and showed me lol.
this is fiberglass like 8lbs
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:48 PM 5/16/2008
omg, now that's what I call a hood scoop.
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omg, now that's what I call a hood scoop.
I didn't even know this was happening untill the photographer came down and showed me lol.
this is fiberglass like 8lbs
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:48 PM 5/16/2008
omg, now that's what I call a hood scoop.
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omg, now that's what I call a hood scoop.
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You sit higher than the area the rollbar will protect you(just draw a line from the top of the hoop to the top of your hood. You should lower your seat or get the front half done. I'm not preaching just telling you what I see
You will get hurt if it goes over....it will hurt
i don't want to see that
But car looks great....oh ya rod-ends are your friend lol.
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his seat is as low as can be mounted in a crx(w/o mounting directly to the floor), but yes if he was to only use that car for the track, a full cage would be beneficial...nick is a pretty tall dude, but i think that picture doesn't represent the height of the top of the bar too well
You sit higher than the area the rollbar will protect you(just draw a line from the top of the hoop to the top of your hood. You should lower your seat or get the front half done. I'm not preaching just telling you what I see
You will get hurt if it goes over....it will hurt
i don't want to see that
But car looks great....oh ya rod-ends are your friend lol.
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his seat is as low as can be mounted in a crx(w/o mounting directly to the floor), but yes if he was to only use that car for the track, a full cage would be beneficial...nick is a pretty tall dude, but i think that picture doesn't represent the height of the top of the bar too well
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his seat is as low as can be mounted in a crx(w/o mounting directly to the floor), but yes if he was to only use that car for the track, a full cage would be beneficial...nick is a pretty tall dude, but i think that picture doesn't represent the height of the top of the bar too well</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then mount the seat to the floor.....get a aluminum seat or something. I'm just talking from experience from crash testing that roof and not deforming the B pillar
I posted the pics before somwhere.
ollbar+raceseat+harness+sitting so close the roof....it's not the safest way to do it.
I'm well aware of how tall the bar is
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:24 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:27 PM 5/16/2008
his seat is as low as can be mounted in a crx(w/o mounting directly to the floor), but yes if he was to only use that car for the track, a full cage would be beneficial...nick is a pretty tall dude, but i think that picture doesn't represent the height of the top of the bar too well</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then mount the seat to the floor.....get a aluminum seat or something. I'm just talking from experience from crash testing that roof and not deforming the B pillar
I posted the pics before somwhere.ollbar+raceseat+harness+sitting so close the roof....it's not the safest way to do it.
I'm well aware of how tall the bar is
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:24 PM 5/16/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:27 PM 5/16/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89civicdx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys! This is an old pic of my old car way back like 2003 I think...but great reason to run steel hoodpins for you guys running aluminum
I didn't even know this was happening untill the photographer came down and showed me lol.
this is fiberglass like 8lbs
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are you sitting on a milk crate?
I didn't even know this was happening untill the photographer came down and showed me lol.
this is fiberglass like 8lbs
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are you sitting on a milk crate?
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are you sitting on a milk crate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Milk crates would be too tall
Its a sparco rev on rails and I'm only 5'7 lol
are you sitting on a milk crate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Milk crates would be too tall
Its a sparco rev on rails and I'm only 5'7 lol
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forgive me I am slow just going though all the pages lol
that pic is gorgeous
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forgive me I am slow just going though all the pages lol
that pic is gorgeous
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I'm well aware of how tall the bar is
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lol i was standing right next to the girl who took that pic....yea idk what im gonna do about mounting my seats yet...prob just weld in 88crx seat floor mounts so i can rock the nagisa nams seat rails
I'm well aware of how tall the bar is
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:24 PM 5/16/2008
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lol i was standing right next to the girl who took that pic....yea idk what im gonna do about mounting my seats yet...prob just weld in 88crx seat floor mounts so i can rock the nagisa nams seat rails
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forgive me I am slow just going though all the pages lol
that pic is gorgeous
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haha thanks...unfortunately my car isnt
forgive me I am slow just going though all the pages lol
that pic is gorgeous
</TD></TR></TABLE>haha thanks...unfortunately my car isnt
thanks man
that was a while ago 03 or whatever ya I know so retro
I keep those pics around to show how stupid I was with no cage and how I almost died
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This was 05


I only have to make that mistake 1 time lol

Modified by 89civicdx at 10:01 PM 5/16/2008
that was a while ago 03 or whatever ya I know so retro
I keep those pics around to show how stupid I was with no cage and how I almost died<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stefndogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw your hatch is sick man....love the front splitter
</TD></TR></TABLE>This was 05


I only have to make that mistake 1 time lol

Modified by 89civicdx at 10:01 PM 5/16/2008
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Then mount the seat to the floor.....get a aluminum seat or something. I'm just talking from experience from crash testing that roof and not deforming the B pillar
I posted the pics before somwhere.
ollbar+raceseat+harness+sitting so close the roof....it's not the safest way to do it.
I'm well aware of how tall the bar is
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:24 PM 5/16/2008
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Don't you think you're preaching a bit much? Don't I see a fixed-back seat in that hatch of yours without a roll bar?
No, I will not mount my seat to the floor. That's as low as it will go without hitting the eyebolts for my 6 point harness. Yes, I am tall. Does my helmet stick up past the roll bar? No. Is it close? Yes. Am I at least running a roll bar? Yes.
We can't all be eye level with our horn buttons like you.
Oh, and thanks for the tip on the deflection issue I've already identified, Captain Obvious.
Then mount the seat to the floor.....get a aluminum seat or something. I'm just talking from experience from crash testing that roof and not deforming the B pillar
I posted the pics before somwhere.ollbar+raceseat+harness+sitting so close the roof....it's not the safest way to do it.
I'm well aware of how tall the bar is
Modified by 89civicdx at 9:24 PM 5/16/2008
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Don't you think you're preaching a bit much? Don't I see a fixed-back seat in that hatch of yours without a roll bar?
No, I will not mount my seat to the floor. That's as low as it will go without hitting the eyebolts for my 6 point harness. Yes, I am tall. Does my helmet stick up past the roll bar? No. Is it close? Yes. Am I at least running a roll bar? Yes.
We can't all be eye level with our horn buttons like you.
Oh, and thanks for the tip on the deflection issue I've already identified, Captain Obvious.
got the title in the mail for the AE86 today. if i have enough time, i will wash it, take pictures, and put it up for sale tomorrow. i still have my y-49 crx. getting detailing stuff soon to clean it up some.
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This is my old sawybar...it was on my car from 98 ish - 2004 I ran everything from eibach-H&R-1000lbs ERS
The bar never moved or tore out and only was removed one time so I can redrill the endlink hole. I never saw a swaybar reinforcement plate like they have these days back then. I plated the bar on both sites of the subframe(gas tank side).
Drove it on the street and track and put 1000's of km on it.
Why do it like this? well it's light and cheap and works.
Though I've never felt the weight of one of those reinforcement plates, I would run one of them now if I was to do it again.....if its too heavy I can always drill it full of holes lol
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Light? How much lighter could it possibly be compared to an ST rear bar? Is yours hollow?
Doing it b/c its cheap i can understand, but the ST rear bar isnt expensive now and it wasnt then.
It all looks a bit suspect to me, but hey, it worked for you so thats cool.
Oh, was it fun redrilling the holes for the endlinks? lol
This is my old sawybar...it was on my car from 98 ish - 2004 I ran everything from eibach-H&R-1000lbs ERS
The bar never moved or tore out and only was removed one time so I can redrill the endlink hole. I never saw a swaybar reinforcement plate like they have these days back then. I plated the bar on both sites of the subframe(gas tank side).
Drove it on the street and track and put 1000's of km on it.
Why do it like this? well it's light and cheap and works.
Though I've never felt the weight of one of those reinforcement plates, I would run one of them now if I was to do it again.....if its too heavy I can always drill it full of holes lol
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Light? How much lighter could it possibly be compared to an ST rear bar? Is yours hollow?
Doing it b/c its cheap i can understand, but the ST rear bar isnt expensive now and it wasnt then.
It all looks a bit suspect to me, but hey, it worked for you so thats cool.
Oh, was it fun redrilling the holes for the endlinks? lol
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Don't you think you're preaching a bit much? Don't I see a fixed-back seat in that hatch of yours without a roll bar?
No, I will not mount my seat to the floor. That's as low as it will go without hitting the eyebolts for my 6 point harness. Yes, I am tall. Does my helmet stick up past the roll bar? No. Is it close? Yes. Am I at least running a roll bar? Yes.
We can't all be eye level with our horn buttons like you.
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Did you read the rest of it or you just replied to that post?
That was my old car from 5 years ago and yes I was stupid. It was total bad judgment on my part and I can't believe I was such an idiot
Your head does stick up past the rollbar....just draw a line from the top of the bar down to the top of your hood using your own pictures. NOT the top of the sheet metal.
I'm only posting because that rollbar will not help you clearly shown by those crx crash pictures. You are being defensive and I am only posting if I cared about you getting hurt....or I could skip over your pictures totaly and not give a ****
You are stuck in your seat upright and you are going to crush your spine. This topic that relates directly to your situation that you are having was discussed 2 years ago in the RR section at length....you don't have to take my word. Those are my accident pictures that is my head sticking out the window. I'm only alive because I wasn't wearing a harness or had a rollbar. It's not something that needs to be argued about just look at the crash pics and the perfect B pillar vs the A pillar. It's not my opinion or feelings....it's what happend.
Captin Obvious...well I guess so lol. You are telling me for your own safety you wouldn't lower your seat because you are hitting **eyebolts** for a removable harness.
Pull out the eyebolts and get a bolt in lapbelt. Does that seat use a cusion? Sparcos use big fat cusion you can pull em out and run something thinner. You are using aftermarket sidemounts........NONE of those side mounts will lower your seat enough. I tried using Sparco mounts to mount my seat...it doesn't work....the seats sit too high. Your mounts are the same design with the bend near the bottom.
Move your rails out and drop the seat inbetween. ****SWAP the right rail to the left side then bend the lever in the opposite direction*** This will allow you to drop the seat all the way down.
My seat was still on rails.....you just have to drill new holes for the rails.
I wish I had more pictures but we-todd-did doesn't seem to work anymore

You have tons of room dude just from judging from the pic of you side mount...I've been there and done that.
I don't think I was being rude to you.....and if you thought I am sorry.
Anyhoo good luck I meant no harm.
Modified by 89civicdx at 8:48 AM 5/17/2008
Don't you think you're preaching a bit much? Don't I see a fixed-back seat in that hatch of yours without a roll bar?
No, I will not mount my seat to the floor. That's as low as it will go without hitting the eyebolts for my 6 point harness. Yes, I am tall. Does my helmet stick up past the roll bar? No. Is it close? Yes. Am I at least running a roll bar? Yes.
We can't all be eye level with our horn buttons like you.
Oh, and thanks for the tip on the deflection issue I've already identified, Captain Obvious. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you read the rest of it or you just replied to that post?
That was my old car from 5 years ago and yes I was stupid. It was total bad judgment on my part and I can't believe I was such an idiot
Your head does stick up past the rollbar....just draw a line from the top of the bar down to the top of your hood using your own pictures. NOT the top of the sheet metal.
I'm only posting because that rollbar will not help you clearly shown by those crx crash pictures. You are being defensive and I am only posting if I cared about you getting hurt....or I could skip over your pictures totaly and not give a ****
You are stuck in your seat upright and you are going to crush your spine. This topic that relates directly to your situation that you are having was discussed 2 years ago in the RR section at length....you don't have to take my word. Those are my accident pictures that is my head sticking out the window. I'm only alive because I wasn't wearing a harness or had a rollbar. It's not something that needs to be argued about just look at the crash pics and the perfect B pillar vs the A pillar. It's not my opinion or feelings....it's what happend.
Captin Obvious...well I guess so lol. You are telling me for your own safety you wouldn't lower your seat because you are hitting **eyebolts** for a removable harness.
Pull out the eyebolts and get a bolt in lapbelt. Does that seat use a cusion? Sparcos use big fat cusion you can pull em out and run something thinner. You are using aftermarket sidemounts........NONE of those side mounts will lower your seat enough. I tried using Sparco mounts to mount my seat...it doesn't work....the seats sit too high. Your mounts are the same design with the bend near the bottom.
Move your rails out and drop the seat inbetween. ****SWAP the right rail to the left side then bend the lever in the opposite direction*** This will allow you to drop the seat all the way down.
My seat was still on rails.....you just have to drill new holes for the rails.
I wish I had more pictures but we-todd-did doesn't seem to work anymore

You have tons of room dude just from judging from the pic of you side mount...I've been there and done that.
I don't think I was being rude to you.....and if you thought I am sorry.
Anyhoo good luck I meant no harm.
Modified by 89civicdx at 8:48 AM 5/17/2008
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Light? How much lighter could it possibly be compared to an ST rear bar? Is yours hollow?
Doing it b/c its cheap i can understand, but the ST rear bar isnt expensive now and it wasnt then.
It all looks a bit suspect to me, but hey, it worked for you so thats cool.
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No it wasn't fun....but it was worth it
Was it lighter...when you are running single cam with 118 hp -> lighter is lighter lol.
Its a type R bar...its not hollow
I have had an ST bar....it's well built comes with heim and proper brackets-> it mounts to the shocks which rocks everyone elses.
those endlinks on the R bar are from the ST lol.
Why mount a bar closer to the LCA....hmm well shorter leaver length?
Look at the length of arm you HAVE to run on a EF setup. That R bar isn't really a good example of a short leaver arm though lol.
This is the new bar which looks old
it's even cheaper than the R bar lol.
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:20 AM 5/17/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:31 AM 5/17/2008
Light? How much lighter could it possibly be compared to an ST rear bar? Is yours hollow?
Doing it b/c its cheap i can understand, but the ST rear bar isnt expensive now and it wasnt then.
It all looks a bit suspect to me, but hey, it worked for you so thats cool.
Oh, was it fun redrilling the holes for the endlinks? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
No it wasn't fun....but it was worth it

Was it lighter...when you are running single cam with 118 hp -> lighter is lighter lol.
Its a type R bar...its not hollow
I have had an ST bar....it's well built comes with heim and proper brackets-> it mounts to the shocks which rocks everyone elses.
those endlinks on the R bar are from the ST lol. Why mount a bar closer to the LCA....hmm well shorter leaver length?
Look at the length of arm you HAVE to run on a EF setup. That R bar isn't really a good example of a short leaver arm though lol.This is the new bar which looks old
it's even cheaper than the R bar lol.
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:20 AM 5/17/2008
Modified by 89civicdx at 7:31 AM 5/17/2008
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http://www.memoryfab.com/produ...ies_3/
im pretty sure those are for 90-91, arent they?
http://www.memoryfab.com/produ...ies_3/
im pretty sure those are for 90-91, arent they?




