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1.Toda may be the only out of the three that makes lumpy cams, but the Mugen and Spoon cams that are not released to the public get much more aggressive than Skunk2 stage 1.

2. .25mm does make a world of difference...TOO BAD I TYPED .025mm. .25mm is outrageous. .025mm is the standard thickness milled off of cylinder heads when trying to bump up compression.

3. I had a friend that built the B16A2 in his 00 EM1. CTR pistons in it, running LUMPY *** JUN Type III camshafts, and stock ITR valves. Never had a problem with clearances. Any smart person will clay the engine to check piston to valve clearances first anyway...

4. "Fact of life" my ***. You still don't know what you're talking about. A thin head hasket will not make your pistons hit your valves. Especially in ChaseIntegra's engine, which will be using P72-00 or P73-00 pistons, no matter what cams he is using (if he is using stock sized valves). Shut up and stop giving people FALSE tech advice.</TD></TR></TABLE>


1) and do they use their thin head gaskets? prove it

2) .025mm will still make a large difference, you are talking **** that is already on the virge of breaking as it is and you want to mill a head, get a thinner headgasket, get lump cams and advance that intake cam?...i will be the one pointing and laughing at you when you pull apart your motor and you have holes in your pistons

3) you are right, claying the motor is the best thing to do, however how far advanced is your friends intake cam? is your friend using a thinner head gasket? things you neglected to mention.....tsk tsk

4) reading comprehension &gt; you, i will quote and BOLD the **** for you since apparently you cant read, or some ****

"you can put b16b pistons in a b16a block with STOCK cams and not hit valves to pistons, i guarantee you that once you get your cams you get cam gears to ADVANCE THE ******* INTAKE, thinner headgasket on top of that your valves slape your pistons, fact of life."

this concludes our broadcast day.....CLICK

 

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1) and do they use their thin head gaskets? prove it

2) .025mm will still make a large difference, you are talking **** that is already on the virge of breaking as it is and you want to mill a head, get a thinner headgasket, get lump cams and advance that intake cam?...i will be the one pointing and laughing at you when you pull apart your motor and you have holes in your pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF??? Who said anything about using a thin gasket AND milling a head? That's just retarded. You do one or the other.

You really think I'm that dumb?...or are you trying to twist my words so you can make me look stupid?

 

wow it looks like honda-tech in here.

 

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WTF??? Who said anything about using a thin gasket AND milling a head? That's just retarded. You do one or the other.

You really think I'm that dumb?...or are you trying to twist my words so you can make me look stupid? </TD></TR></TABLE>


i dont have to twist anything to do that

 

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i dont have to twist anything to do that </TD></TR></TABLE>
C'mon man. Don't tell me I suck at reading comprehension when you are going in different directions.

An engine without PCT pistons can have a thin gasket OR a milled head with lumpy cams and not have pistons slapping valves. A B16A with PCT pistons CANNOT use a thin head gasket or milled head and lumpy cams without pistons slapping valves. Never did I say you could use a B16A with PCT pistons, ON TOP OF having a thin gasket or milled head, and lumpy cams. I don't know where you got that from.... you are right though. That will put holes in your pistons.

It is possible to have a stock JDM ITR engine with lumpy cams and a thin gasket work out fine. It's done ALL THE TIME. You're saying that this setup will have pistons slapping valves?

 

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"you can put b16b pistons in a b16a block with STOCK cams and not hit valves to pistons, i guarantee you that once you get your cams you get cam gears to ADVANCE THE ******* INTAKE, thinner headgasket on top of that your valves slape your pistons, fact of life."
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You do also realize that most aftermarket camshafts use a lot of overlap (measured in degrees ABDC). The cams are ground so that there is a point where the intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time. This is done to account for the high revving properties of the camshafts, to increase air intake at high engine speeds. This higher level of valve overlap is designed so that YOU WON'T HAVE TO ADVANCE THE INTAKE CAM to develop 8,500+ RPM power. This valve overlap reduces dynamic compression ratio at low RPM, and this is why you must use higher compression to maintain low end power when switching to high-lift cams.

Advancing the intake cam shouldn't be a factor when using good cams like the JUN III and Toda B/C. They keep in mind that piston to valve clearances will be tight. This is how my friend used JUN III cams with PCT pistons with no clearance issues.

 

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C'mon man. Don't tell me I suck at reading comprehension when you are going in different directions.

An engine without PCT pistons can have a thin gasket OR a milled head with lumpy cams and not have pistons slapping valves. A B16A with PCT pistons CANNOT use a thin head gasket or milled head and lumpy cams without pistons slapping valves. Never did I say you could use a B16A with PCT pistons, ON TOP OF having a thin gasket or milled head, and lumpy cams. I don't know where you got that from.... you are right though. That will put holes in your pistons.

It is possible to have a stock JDM ITR engine with lumpy cams and a thin gasket work out fine. It's done ALL THE TIME. You're saying that this setup will have pistons slapping valves?

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nope, not saying that, i am saying that when you swap cams you dont leave your cam timing stock, you advance your intake, thus lowering the valve clearance, etc.....

 

DA pics only guys, take the argument to IM!

 

comeon man knowledge is one guy that knows his **** don't try him.

newayz back to subject heres a teaser on mine

 

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newayz back to subject heres a teaser on mine
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says the man with 12 posts

 

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Who registered 9 months ago

 

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Who registered 9 months ago </TD></TR></TABLE>


lurkers can die

 

**crying furiously**

knowledge back me up man LOL

 

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lurkers can die </TD></TR></TABLE>
Post ****** unite.

I ordered my pistons last night

I need boost in my life.

 

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knowledge back me up man LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>


n00b

 

a little drama in the DA thread??

well, i had a free afternoon at the body shop, so i painted up a mad JDM valve cover!!



what do you guys think??

 

I Likie Make Me One

 

Either the picture isn't the best quality or the paint looks ultra 'creamy.'

 

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newayz back to subject heres a teaser on mine
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so sick

 

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I spy PS, though!

 

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yeah rims dont look right.

 

And not much of a teaser when you show the whole car.

Unless the whole tease is that he/ she really doesn't have red GT3's yet.

 

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I would have to agree with this statement. One of the cockiest guys on HT (no offense ) but pull it off with his knowledge.

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well, i had a free afternoon at the body shop, so i painted up a mad JDM valve cover!!



what do you guys think??</TD></TR></TABLE>

How long did it take you? Looks pretty decent.

 

I'm stayin out of this argument at this point. This talk needs to be in the all motor forum!

 

less talking more pics....here is another one of my beater