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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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yes im goin for looks obviously..but its also has power to ya know and it gets used for drag days/track days...
the cali plates only for show/meets
i loved the tucked bay because i think DA bays are way to clustered looking and im not feeling the coloured bay tbh..it will be painted same colour as car..
and il be gettin the cage welded in soon once its chrome dipped..and its pure steel so its strong its not alliminuim?was made froma company who specialise in pro-drift cars!
i had to camber the rear wheels or else the bbs would stick out a mile like?
i am currently disqualified from driving for 2 years so it only goes to shows atm...but once im back driving itll be getting a build b18c5
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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Ya it's very clean. There is a couple things I would do, but it isn't my car.

No license would suck if I owned something like that and couldn't drive it.

I partially wire tucked my bay. Cleans things up, but still able to work on it if something ever goes wrong. I think cages are ugly and agree it's a very common look these days. Not sure why, but everything comes and goes over time hehe.

PS: Those BBS rims are just drop dead gorgeous!
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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hahah, uhoo, what are you suspended for? What did you do?

Is the parking pole an OE piece or did you put it on.

What's done to the motor now?

Bond, nothing is wrong with a cage, just not a bolted in cage that really serves no purpose at all besides looks.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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the pole is a oem peice came from my old DA6 witch i kept and put in the current DA6

eh i apparently was speeding through a local town?i actually wasnt but the cop had a hatred towards me so i got done

its a b16b...CTR
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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The header looked stock all wrapped up, rsr header huh, nice! Pretty rare huh?

I gotta admit, I am jealous! Wish my car was this clean!
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EFcivicJDM
yes im goin for looks obviously..but its also has power to ya know and it gets used for drag days/track days...
the cali plates only for show/meets
i loved the tucked bay because i think DA bays are way to clustered looking and im not feeling the coloured bay tbh..it will be painted same colour as car..
and il be gettin the cage welded in soon once its chrome dipped..and its pure steel so its strong its not alliminuim?was made froma company who specialise in pro-drift cars!
i had to camber the rear wheels or else the bbs would stick out a mile like?
i am currently disqualified from driving for 2 years so it only goes to shows atm...but once im back driving itll be getting a build b18c5
ppl are trippin you have one of the sickes da i have seen on here in a min, rhd, clean, bay looks fresh, cage does need welding but whatever, clean camber ,and wheels, sits perfect , idk i think your ***** sick!
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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my pos for your hating needs EFCivic
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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your ***** clean too, but id run your motor in his car hahaha just my .02
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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i like your teg matt..i wish i had a boosted DA haha...but b18c5 on ITBs is my plan...

thanks da9parling
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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I cant wait til my DA is all finished all fresh and painted....
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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ITBs are sick, so is boost, idk what id do i love how itbs sound but.... boost is boost haha idk
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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your ***** clean too, but id run your motor in his car hahaha just my .02
hahah yea, but I love my car, despite it's beat-up-ness!

Originally Posted by EFcivicJDM
i like your teg matt..i wish i had a boosted DA haha...but b18c5 on ITBs is my plan...
thanks da9parling
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ITBs are sick, so is boost, idk what id do i love how itbs sound but.... boost is boost haha idk
Ehh ITBS, especially on a B series are a waste of money IMO. There are tons of manifold/tb combos that will perform better or just as well for 1/4 the cost of QUALITY ITBS. They are another one of those show stopper things, and the only cars I have seen benefit from them a good deal are built K's.

If I had a built B all motor setup I'd go for a nice 68mm tb and the edelbrock performer X manifold.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattb16teg
Ehh ITBS, especially on a B series are a waste of money IMO. There are tons of manifold/tb combos that will perform better or just as well for 1/4 the cost of QUALITY ITBS. They are another one of those show stopper things, and the only cars I have seen benefit from them a good deal are built K's.
Individual throttle bodies aren't about power, they're about throttle response. They aren't a waste of money if you're competatively road racing, where cost is often ignored in favor of better lap times. Throttle response is pretty useless in drag racing.

ITBs are no more of a "showstopper thing" than a car with a huge, expensive top-mount turbo kit. If you don't use them for what they're intended, ITBs and turbos are equally "showstopper things."
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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I guess the cage is to each their own. Personally I don't like them. Driven a couple of cars that had one and it was a total pain as a DD. I know it's functional when needed, but I don't plan on running one on my DA.

Sucks about losing his licence. We still get the most negative attention where I live. They just follow you untill they can pull you over and give you a VI. Pretty lame.

I don't think anyone was saying his car was a very nice DA so I'm not sure where that all came from
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Didn't really mention power there did I?

Umm more air, more power right? Which is the idea behind ITBS. Tune-ability also.
Def not useless in drag racing either, as mentioned above especially in built K cars, ESPECIALLY since those ITBS act as RAM air on those cars. Forcing that MORE air into the engine, more than a traditional intake setup.

Kinda hard not to use a top mount for what it's intended for................................
Running a larger turbo than what can fit between the block and front end, or quicker spool times...
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Bond, nothing is wrong with a cage, just not a bolted in cage that really serves no purpose at all besides looks.
Not singling you out Matt, but didn't want to quote each and everytime it was mentioned...

But I hope you guys realize two things. First, that's not a roll cage, it's a roll bar. Huge difference. Second, there's nothing wrong with a bolt in roll bar. I agree, it's stupid if the point is for looks. And in most instances where the car will see a lot of street driving a roll bar like that could be more dangerous than having nothing at all. But it really depends on the specific situation. I'm running a bolt in 4pt roll bar in my Integra and it's great piece of mind when taking those high speed sweepers, or any corner for that matter. Sure, the chance of a rollover is relatively low, but considering the low cost and ease of installation it's something I wasn't willing to do anymore track days without.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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i like itbs
a fella here is runnin a n/a built b18c on itbs and its running 286bhp
and his mate has a built turbo b18 running near 400bhp...
but the itbs cost considerably less than the turbo setup and i prefer the way they perform than the turbo idk why i just do?
and the DA will be used for track days so itll be functional
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattb16teg
hahah yea, but I love my car, despite it's beat-up-ness!




Ehh ITBS, especially on a B series are a waste of money IMO. There are tons of manifold/tb combos that will perform better or just as well for 1/4 the cost of QUALITY ITBS. They are another one of those show stopper things, and the only cars I have seen benefit from them a good deal are built K's.

If I had a built B all motor setup I'd go for a nice 68mm tb and the edelbrock performer X manifold.
yeah i know what you mean ha my da is pretty clean but it still has that hint of beat lol not to mention a motor about to go.... but **** it i love that ****!

and as for the itbs, yeah show stoppers, but turbo looks justs as good if not better imo. just the sound idk gives me chills hahaha
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Not singling you out Matt, but didn't want to quote each and everytime it was mentioned...

But I hope you guys realize two things. First, that's not a roll cage, it's a roll bar. Huge difference. Second, there's nothing wrong with a bolt in roll bar. I agree, it's stupid if the point is for looks. And in most instances where the car will see a lot of street driving a roll bar like that could be more dangerous than having nothing at all. But it really depends on the specific situation. I'm running a bolt in 4pt roll bar in my Integra and it's great piece of mind when taking those high speed sweepers, or any corner for that matter. Sure, the chance of a rollover is relatively low, but considering the low cost and ease of installation it's something I wasn't willing to do anymore track days without.

im weldin in a roll bar.. mostly for seatbelts and camera mount and yeah peace of mind... its my daily but still i like to know, just incase somthing happens,that im good haha..
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattb16teg
Didn't really mention power there did I?
Well, a 68mm throttle body and an Edelbrock intake manifold will not produce better throttle response than a set of properly sized ITBs, so what else could you be talking about other than power? How would the combo you mentioned "perform better" than individual throtle bodies? Fuel efficiency?

Originally Posted by Mattb16teg
Umm more air, more power right? Which is the idea behind ITBS. Tune-ability also.
HAHA. ITBs don't necessarily suck in more air. An unrestricted naturally aspirated engine can only suck in as much air as atmospheric pressure will allow. ITBs are all about throttle response. Rather than having an intake charge flow through a long intake tube into a single plenum that feeds 4 runners, ITBs have direct flow characterists and smooth airflow that give instant throttle response in midrange and high revs.

You have the idea behind ITBs all wrong...

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Def not useless in drag racing either, as mentioned above especially in built K cars, ESPECIALLY since those ITBS act as RAM air on those cars. Forcing that MORE air into the engine, more than a traditional intake setup.
Yeah, that's the only benefit I can see with drag racing. However, if done improperly, the "ram air" actually just creates turbulence and decreases performance.

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Kinda hard not to use a top mount for what it's intended for................................
Running a larger turbo than what can fit between the block and front end, or quicker spool times...
HAHA. If a car with a top mount and another with ITBs are both trailored to a car show, how are they being used for what they were intended?

It's also kinda hard not to use ITBs for what they're intended; I mean, you can get better throttle response driving to the grocery store.

Conclusion: Any performance modification can be used as a "showstopper."
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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thanks knowledge..atleast someone thinks there more than showstoppers ha
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kNOwLedGe.
Well, a 68mm throttle body and an Edelbrock intake manifold will not produce better throttle response than a set of properly sized ITBs, so what else could you be talking about other than power? How would the combo you mentioned "perform better" than individual throtle bodies? Fuel efficiency?

Yeah, that's the only benefit I can see with drag racing. However, if done improperly, the "ram air" actually just creates turbulence and decreases performance.

HAHA. If a car with a top mount and another with ITBs are both trailored to a car show, how are they being used for what they were intended?
On the first part, I've seen a straight swap on a high cmp B make better power through the entire power band with a manifold and tb vs the ITBS. Sure as you mentioned the motor was not built for either specifically but not many ppl out there are building motors for ITBS, they are just throwing them on the motor because it seems like the cool thing to do.

And under the circumstances I mentioned in my post, in that situation the ITBs would force more are into THAT motor at a higher rate than a traditional manifold/tb setup. I have witnessed the increased airflow through logs. No disputing that.



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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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I watched my buddy tune a B20V with ITB's. Lots of work. They switched velocity stacks like it was going out of style! lol

But he said it's the only way to actually tune them correctly. Was pretty interesting. He knows his stuff so I just shut up and listen. I'm no tuner so I can't comment on any part of that! lol

I'd still turbo over them, but they are neat.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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