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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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with the compression im at and only being a 1.6 liter, lets just say the "JOURNAL" bearing tga 6157 was a bit large on my setup in my opinion. Should be alot better after i get the skunk2 76mm exhaust

the tga 5857 however, i feel is prefect match, minus being a journal bearing. full boost on the 5857 around 5k on my setup.

but, pretty sure the tga 6157 would be a better fit for a k20. also, im not sure how the 57mm turbine will work on the two liter. mite be a bit small. if i ever build another block or up the compression in my b16, ill be reverting back to the 6157

im also not using any features to ramp boost up any faster. just a straight hallman mbc

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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 08:22 AM
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the spool rate on both are pretty crazy. i love to try the ceramic ball bearing chras, but that another grand
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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decided to take a couple pics. not carried away with the typical sticker bomb. windshields not cracked
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with the compression im at and only being a 1.6 liter, lets just say the "JOURNAl" bearing tga 6157 was a bit large on my setup in my opinion.

the tga 5857 however, i feel is prefect match, minus being a journal bearing. full boost on the 5857 around 5k on my setup.

but, pretty sure the tga 6157 would be a better fit for a k20. also, im not sure how thr 57mm turbine will work on the two liter. mite be a bit small. if i ever build another block or up the compression in mh b16, ill be reverting back to the 6157

im also not using any features to ramp boost up any faster. just a straight hallman mbc
Have you played with ignition timing to get the turbo to full boost faster?
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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outside set base timing and general maintenance, absoluty not. i have no experience in the tables tabs. cars runs perfect, not goin to destory anything attempting to change something that suits me as of now. last mods of this year will be a sparco harness bar and harness. cant decide on red or black. leaning towards red. i feel theres to much slop between me and the seat

edit: i remember mentioning to my tuner that i wanted a more aggressive ignition map, we went into specifics. then he assured me its pointless goin conservative. then says none of his tuned cars leave conversative. seeing how the cars perform for three years straight, i have nothing but faith in him

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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 01:32 PM
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Car looks cleeeean man!
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Car looks cleeeean man!
honestly, it has scratches and such from the fifteen years of street use. its a street machine, so it comes with the territory. it will get painted eventually after im settle modding the powertrain

your build still goin. last i seen was a time slip at an event. your runnin the tga 5454 right?
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Cars looking good! After talking with Greg yesterday for a bit we decided on the tga 6157 for my motor! hope for full boost by 4500rpms:p will start a build thread as parts come in!
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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Cars looking good! After talking with Greg yesterday for a bit we decided on the tga 6157 for my motor! hope for full boost by 4500rpms:p will start a build thread as parts come in!
sounds like some thought was put into it. have you found anything out bout k series on 57mm turbine wheels. greg is the man, THEY ( because its not just greg) are coming up quickly
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sounds like some thought was put into it. have you found anything out bout k series on 57mm turbine wheels. greg is the man, THEY ( because its not just greg) are coming up quickly
Like any engine, its all about purpose. K-series can do fine with the F1-57 exhaust wheel, but it depends upon what you're using it for. Want over 600whp? Then no, don't use it with your 61mm compressor wheel thinking its going to give you the best of two worlds.

K-series cylinder heads are more volumetrically efficient than B-series, we all know this. But you have to plan accordingly for your turbocharging needs by matching the combination just as you would B-series.

So, in essence, to use a F1-57 exhaust wheel is not a Yes/No question. Its more of a "what am I doing with this car / what's the compressor wheel I'm using it with?" type of question.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 06:26 PM
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honestly, it has scratches and such from the fifteen years of street use. its a street machine, so it comes with the territory. it will get painted eventually after im settle modding the powertrain

your build still goin. last i seen was a time slip at an event. your runnin the tga 5454 right?
Well it's looks clean as hell from a distance lol.

Yep my little **** box is still going strong. I was just at the track last night and trapped 120mph for the first time. Im just running a precision 5431 with a .48ar hotside on a basically stock ls. I beat the **** out of it every time I drive it lol.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 07:16 PM
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Like any engine, its all about purpose. K-series can do fine with the F1-57 exhaust wheel, but it depends upon what you're using it for. Want over 600whp? Then no, don't use it with your 61mm compressor wheel thinking its going to give you the best of two worlds.

K-series cylinder heads are more volumetrically efficient than B-series, we all know this. But you have to plan accordingly for your turbocharging needs by matching the combination just as you would B-series.

So, in essence, to use a F1-57 exhaust wheel is not a Yes/No question. Its more of a "what am I doing with this car / what's the compressor wheel I'm using it with?" type of question.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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Well it's looks clean as hell from a distance lol.

Yep my little **** box is still going strong. I was just at the track last night and trapped 120mph for the first time. Im just running a precision 5431 with a .48ar hotside on a basically stock ls. I beat the **** out of it every time I drive it lol.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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Nice. It was interesting to see the same exact turbo I decided to go with for my setup as well.. I'm hoping to hit 500whp.

84MM Benson Sleeved JDM ITR
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Pic is in my build thread in sig.

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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 10:29 PM
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Nice. It was interesting to see the same exact turbo I decided to go with for my setup as well.. I'm hoping to hit 500whp.

84MM Benson Sleeved JDM ITR
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BRMS Mini ram
TGA 6157 Journal bearing

Pic is in my build thread in sig.

man youve been workin on this build a long time. i think you got your turbo around the same time as myself. idont see why you wouldnt smell 500. id like to see what these units can do in the thirty psi range.the 6157 seems like a responsive peaky turbo so to speak. not sure how to explain it, but its definitely a keeper. however, i was looking for more gt30 characteristics over gt35. outside reaction spool of course

wow i was really drunk last night

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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 06:00 PM
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sounds like some thought was put into it. have you found anything out bout k series on 57mm turbine wheels. greg is the man, THEY ( because its not just greg) are coming up quickly
Yeah he originally told me to go with the 6165, but after going over my power goals and spool times I wanted etc the 6157 would fit the bill. I'm hoping for fairly good response with the billet wheel and with the stock 11:1 compression should make my goal of 420whp pretty easy. Havent looked into much on 57mm turbine wheels on k series but it should throw down a nice powerband. Yeah Greg and the entire GoAutoworks staff have the best customer service in the business in my opinion! That's a big reason why I continue to buy from them.

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Like any engine, its all about purpose. K-series can do fine with the F1-57 exhaust wheel, but it depends upon what you're using it for. Want over 600whp? Then no, don't use it with your 61mm compressor wheel thinking its going to give you the best of two worlds.

K-series cylinder heads are more volumetrically efficient than B-series, we all know this. But you have to plan accordingly for your turbocharging needs by matching the combination just as you would B-series.

So, in essence, to use a F1-57 exhaust wheel is not a Yes/No question. Its more of a "what am I doing with this car / what's the compressor wheel I'm using it with?" type of question.
400-440whp street fighter Mac! Yeah after our little chat a while ago and also seeing enough blown k series transmissions I had to agree with you that 475whp on the street for me and my "usage" would be pointless.
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400-440whp street fighter Mac! Yeah after our little chat a while ago and also seeing enough blown k series transmissions I had to agree with you that 475whp on the street for me and my "usage" would be pointless.
Yeah you would be much happier with the smaller compressor and exhaust wheel of the F1-57
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 06:58 AM
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nice, cant wait to see what the vtc does on this that snail
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nice, cant wait to see what the vtc does on this that snail
Pretty much like any other VTEC phenomenon. Tuning will alter normal behaviour of VTC, anyway.
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 07:36 AM
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i seen the vtc pulls some tricks outa its ***, when my buddys kraftswerks setup got tuned. tuner pulled another 20whp down low, aswell as ramping the up the spool rate.
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i seen the vtc pulls some tricks outa its ***, when my buddys kraftswerks setup got tuned. tuner pulled another 20whp down low, aswell as ramping the up the spool rate.
Supercharger is different from turbocharger in terms of linear use of VTEC or VTC. It's easier to see certain differences with a supercharger than a turbocharger when the changes are linear.
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bad news and good news. so after a third gear pull, my climate control console just shoots out at me. the clip holes are completely ripped off.Name:  IMG_20150918_115526781_zps3chsonfq.jpg
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anyone else with oem honda coils that sit up that high. definitely will be needing a coil plate

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bad news and good news. so after a third gear pull, my climate control console just shoots out at me. the clip holes are completely ripped off.

good news, gettin setup for hondata cpr.



anyone else with oem honda coils that sit up that high. definitely will be needing a coil plate
I might have an extra coil plate you can use

The coils do sit high, thats why you need the plate

Pm me if you need one. Ive sold maybe 40 here
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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pics of plate with and without coils. yes it matters lol.

ive been debating on coil on plug for a while. decided i was tired of buying ****** dizzy parts every year. and i wasnt gona buy the cpr kit unless i found good oem coils and oem only. so havent even bout the kit yet, guess thats on the way now
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 04:53 AM
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update!.... finally got the cpr kit in. it was incredibly easy to install if you follow the directions. had a few promblems though. unexpected ones really. prepped the dizzy, then prepped the cpr harness, then went to prep the jumper harness and notice a pin is broken off that goes to injector 4. everything went flawlessly, other than the tach not workin.
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for whatever reason my headgasket started leaking at the typical corner near the engine stamp. dumped baby power in the area to trace the source.
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so now i gota pulls the cams to tighten that stud corner hoping for the best. as for the tach not working, em1 engine bay harness doesnt have a wire leading to the tach signal at the dizzy. itz a dummy pin,... tachs ran from the ecu. so my choices are unloom my whole harness just to add the tach signal wire to a19 i believe, or just wire a aftermarket tach the cpr pin thru the dummy pin at the harness

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