<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im just saying that thread about it is useless , it gives no explanation at all . and i would love to see evidence as to the rod being the failure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When you see the pic u can draw your own conclusion, the end was a deep black color like it got burnt to hell, and it snapped in the middle in all honestly I think I remember him saying it was the oil pump that failed, but this was more than a year ago so I dont recall for sure, but I wil get the story along with the pic when I see him, I will try to go to his shop tomorrow. the funny thing is he now only uses eagles.

 

from what your telling me , is a bearing spun , heated the rod up and snaped it , again , show me evidence that a pauter rod has snapped from having a flaw , or being weak.

 

you guys sound funny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what your telling me , is a bearing spun , heated the rod up and snaped it , again , show me evidence that a pauter rod has snapped from having a flaw , or being weak.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are asking me to do what? when did I imply that any rod was weak? I created this thread trying to get rod bolt questions answered, not try to single out a rod or manufacturer, I have no evidence that pauter or eagle or crower or any rod has a flaw and is weak, and I have never heard of an eagle rod failing locally and thats what eveyone here runs from what I know. again the reason I want pauters for my second motor is because the design is said to support the type of application I am building.

everyone seems to have love hate relationship with eagles, I remember last month someone posted pics of eagles after his motor grenaded, and they didnt even have a scratch. and with all the bad talk about eagle no one seem to have proof that installation was done correctly or even proof that a rod did break, including you. but I am not here to have a pissing contest. either way honda-tech success or failure stories doesnt influence my decsion when buying parts. I want pauters specifically for a reason.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When it comes down to it, a $20 Timex tells time as well as a $2000 Rolex. Or does it? </TD></TR></TABLE>


But the Timex takes a licking and keeps on ticking unlike the Rolex.

 

Earl lock this thread I already got my answer and this thread is just going to turn to **** by eagle haters vs eagle supporters.

 

I bought scat's which look just like eagles. Shipped with arp2000 bolts, 3/8". Put 500 miles on them so far. I trust them.

Hell, they all feel the same no matter how much they cost... until one snaps. We'll see.

Matt

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitey. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


But the Timex takes a licking and keeps on ticking unlike the Rolex. </TD></TR></TABLE>

spoken from somebody who has never owned both

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=962075

There is a little info on some Eagle rods when compared to crower's if anyone cares. I have exact measurements of the eagles in that thread as well. As far as what's been discussed sofar... I'm with earl on this one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as stated by Larry @ Endyn:
I've seen Pauters break (recently) and I've never thought much of their design. They (Pauter's) won't be finding their way into any engines we build.

http://www.theoldone.com/forum...17032

im happy with my eagle rods.......and so are many others.......if i were to build an all out crazy high HP engine then i would look into other brands......but pauter wouldn't be one of them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the thread where Luke got into one of his pissing contests with Earl over the design of the Pauters.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

spoken from somebody who has never owned both </TD></TR></TABLE>


Wow, go change your JDM tampon.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitey. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Wow, go change your JDM tampon. </TD></TR></TABLE>

dont get butthurt whitey

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont get butthurt whitey</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your the one who needs to call people out for no reason. It was a joke, try to lighten up a little and stop taking life so seriously.

 

Battle of the egos.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitey. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your the one who needs to call people out for no reason. It was a joke, try to lighten up a little and stop taking life so seriously. </TD></TR></TABLE>

whose calling anyone out?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whose calling anyone out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not choosing sides, but you did call him out. lol

You said he aint got either the timex or rolex and gave him a thumbs down. Anything but the thumbs down!! lol

Can't we all just get along?

 

how is that calling somebody out , he stated an untrue comment about rolex ......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how is that calling somebody out , he stated an untrue comment about rolex ......</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kidding.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i dunno $2000 won't get you a great Rolex </TD></TR></TABLE>I knew I was going to get busted for that comparison

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostincoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wonder if Eagle would still want to do business with you if they read some of what you've posted. </TD></TR></TABLE>I could only wish that someone from there WOULD contact me.
You do get what you pay for with rods and Eagle is the only cheap rod that I would ever consider using...but only for lower horsepower apps.
For Eagle to make the change in bolt size, you KNOW there had to be problems somewhere with the smaller bolts.

 

Hella_JDM, sorry but Eagle rod end caps don't just "fly off." I'm going with builder error, no matter how reputable you say the builder was.

 

pauter has an excellent x beam design, you spend a fortune on your build, why go cheap with eagle rods, its always good to have more than enough in my book

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrettyLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pauter has an excellent x beam design, you spend a fortune on your build, why go cheap with eagle rods, its always good to have more than enough in my book</TD></TR></TABLE>

...because most people don't need anything better.

 

Quote, originally posted by Whitey. »

But the Timex takes a licking and keeps on ticking unlike the Rolex.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

spoken from somebody who has never owned both </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I tell you what I would buy enough timex watches to last me 2 or 3
lifetimes and still spend less then 90k. Anyways, you can argue this forever.
I'm happy with eagles and would buy again but even if you were to spend
more money cause you wanted a "stronger" rod why not manely? From
prices I've seen they seem to be alittle cheaper.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mikes01GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Anyways, you can argue this forever.
I'm happy with eagles and would buy again but even if you were to spend
more money cause you wanted a "stronger" rod why not manely? From
prices I've seen they seem to be alittle cheaper. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm surprised no one mentioned manley until now. I believe there good for about 600. Maybe because the tread is tittled pauter vs. eagle.

Personally I'm running the eagle rods with the 5/16 bolt. Motor's been running for 1 1/2 years now. My hp goals weren't that high when I did the initial build so I went with eagle. If I had to do it all over again. Correction, on my next build I'm going with manley or pauter.

When I called Eagle to ask them how much hp there rods were good for they told me the rods with 5/16 bolt(s) were good for 600, and the one's with the 3/8 bolt(s) were good for 900hp.

My current #'s on the eagle rods are in signature. (knocking on wood that they last a little longer.)