<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_sir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah but if you look at it right $350 compared to $500 that can easily go into a nice 2hours of dyno tuning......Either way after everything you spend on the Crome Pro it's still going to be cheaper.... Well I think i'm going to have to end up selling my swap and just building my D16y8 with a SC it's will have alot more ***** than.....We need torque and that something a b16 lacks! So I guess we are going to start seeing some progress soon! Did you guys notice that the JRSC dropped the prices from $2400 to $1900 for the kit!


Does anyone know if endyn is still selling the pulley upgrade to up the boost....i want to see if i can get the blower to run atleast 11psi</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uh, just sc the b16, and you will have the bottom end, and the m62 blower.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_sir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah but if you look at it right $350 compared to $500 that can easily go into a nice 2hours of dyno tuning......</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where can you get two hours of nice dyno tuning @ $75 an hour?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PickleTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Where can you get two hours of nice dyno tuning @ $75 an hour?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Joe's Tacos and Dyno Tuning

 

If I want the M62 I could just get the one from Endyn they made it for the d16's....plus I already have a buyer for the engine offering me $3000 it's a JDM B16 w/ LSD tranny and stage 1 driveshafts and exedy clutch and flywheel and new water pump/timing belt/tensioner/and Oil gear

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_sir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I want the M62 I could just get the one from Endyn they made it for the d16's....plus I already have a buyer for the engine offering me $3000 it's a JDM B16 w/ LSD tranny and stage 1 driveshafts and exedy clutch and flywheel and new water pump/timing belt/tensioner/and Oil gear</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it is already in there why go throught the hassle of taking it back out. D series as much as I like them still have a stepchild of a gearbox. Your b16 has lsd and a nice gear box, and one more cam. If it's not broke don't fix it.

 

Well I haven't even swapped it in it's just sitting in my storage on the engine stand....And even when I do the swap I wont have enough funds to bump the Hp on it so i rather spend it on my D16....Well about the gear box my friend is selling me a Y8 tranny with an OBX LSD and SRR 4.7 Final drive so i doubt its's a step child gearbox..for $500 or he'll give it to me if I lower the the price of the swap!

 

Just picked up a supercharger this past week which will be going on the y8. This is my first time with boost. I am already running a chipped p28 (using Crome) and the snout pulley is a JR 3.4 What does this mean? Is that the 8psi pulley?

Do you think I will need to upgrade my fuel pump and injectors right away or can I wait? I have a PLX wideband with datalogging for tuning, so I should have no problem using Crome to get the fuel maps right.

Should I also ditch my stage 2 cam in favour of the stock y8 cam? Will it work better? Is it better to adjust the Vtec engagement point down to 2500rpms such that Vtec engages as soon as the charger starts making boost?

I'm an n/a guy coming over to boost for the first time, so I have a lot of questions!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solorex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just picked up a supercharger this past week which will be going on the y8. This is my first time with boost. I am already running a chipped p28 (using Crome) and the snout pulley is a JR 3.4 What does this mean? Is that the 8psi pulley?

Do you think I will need to upgrade my fuel pump and injectors right away or can I wait? I have a PLX wideband with datalogging for tuning, so I should have no problem using Crome to get the fuel maps right.

Should I also ditch my stage 2 cam in favour of the stock y8 cam? Will it work better? Is it better to adjust the Vtec engagement point down to 2500rpms such that Vtec engages as soon as the charger starts making boost?

I'm an n/a guy coming over to boost for the first time, so I have a lot of questions!</TD></TR></TABLE>

No you don't need to set your VTEC point at 2500rpm just keep it at the stock setting...your cam should be ok as long as it doesn't have that much overlap...3.4 pulley i think will get you anywhere around 6psi i think or 7 it's kind of different toward everyone's engine....your fuels system should hold out good for up to 200hp but when going with boost it's always a smart idea to atleast get some 550cc injector an FPR and a good fuel tuning system...


Modified by jdm_sir2 at 3:36 PM 9/18/2006

 

A quick answer for the person asking of alternatives to buying a blower pulley for more boost. The Y7 and Y8 seem to have the biggest crank pulley so if you dont have a Y7 or 8 get one of those pulleys. I have one on my A6 and it gives me about 9-10 psi. Also if you want to tune your A6 you can use Turboedit, 450 dsm, and by a chip burner off ebay for $30. Thats cheap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_sir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No you don't need to set your VTEC point at 2500rpm just keep it at the stock setting...your cam should be ok as long as it doesn't have that much overlap...3.4 pulley i think will get you anywhere around 6psi i think or 7 it's kind of different toward everyone's engine....your fuels system should hold out good for up to 200hp but when going with boost it's always a smart idea to atleast get some 550cc injector an FPR and a good fuel tuning system...


Modified by jdm_sir2 at 3:36 PM 9/18/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like a should get the charger on first, see what kind of boost its making with the current pulleys and tune it from there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JICEK9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think i've asked it three times allready but, what cam works best in our set ups from evpirience??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm running a DOHC JRSC setup, not SOHC, but I'd go with an aftermarket turbo cam. You want reasonably low valve overlap and large lift; the turbo cams will give you that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveb91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A quick answer for the person asking of alternatives to buying a blower pulley for more boost. The Y7 and Y8 seem to have the biggest crank pulley so if you dont have a Y7 or 8 get one of those pulleys. I have one on my A6 and it gives me about 9-10 psi. Also if you want to tune your A6 you can use Turboedit, 450 dsm, and by a chip burner off ebay for $30. Thats cheap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are all they D series crank pullies interchangable?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by creechrr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Are all they D series crank pullies interchangable?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have an A6 and have used the Z6 and Y8 Y7 pullies on it with no problems some have more accessory drives than others but the all fit one to the other.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Veris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm running a DOHC JRSC setup, not SOHC, but I'd go with an aftermarket turbo cam. You want reasonably low valve overlap and large lift; the turbo cams will give you that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, but I don't think just any turbo cam will work on the sohc. I don't really know, but what from I've read, some cams make you LOOSE hp. the sohc's are hard enough to make 200+hp out of. I'm wondering if it is worth it, or the $$ would be spent better elsewhere.

 

I got my SOHC kit in, i just recently obtained a B20 crank pulley, has anybody had good boost with this set up? Would you also happen to know the correct belth length for this set up?

thanks!

 

Thinking about switch from turbo to S/C since..im a poor college student. How do you guys use the Eaton superchargers on the D-series?

Here is my current situation.

Blown motor. No compression in one cylinder...also fired rings.
Full turbo setup w/ small IHI RHB5 turbo

After reading this thread I was thinking about rebuilding my motor with oem parts minus the rod bolts and S/C it. I found a online compression calculator and these were the results i found.

Stock Z6 w/ D16A1 pistons = 12.03:1 static compression

Is this to high for a supercharger? I would like to be around 200 whp+
Also i can get 93 or 94 on the pump and sometimes 100 octane.

Also with the stock head will i be limiting the potential of the supersharger?

Which S/C would help me reach this goal???? Also how do you get the Eaton ones to work?

Or do you think I should just rebuild it for turbo??? Car is a 95 Del Sol Si.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JICEK9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes, but I don't think just any turbo cam will work on the sohc. I don't really know, but what from I've read, some cams make you LOOSE hp. the sohc's are hard enough to make 200+hp out of. I'm wondering if it is worth it, or the $$ would be spent better elsewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No kidding... You'll definately need a SOHC cam designed for your motor! I though that was pretty obvious.

Somthing like the stage 2 found here: http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml

They make a similar cam for the d16z motors as well.

Now if it is worth it or not, that is up to you... I'm just providing some direction in regards to an optimal camshaft. That was the original question.




Modified by Veris at 10:51 AM 9/19/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Veris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No kidding... You''ll definately a SOHC cam designed for your motor! I though that was pretty obvious.

Somthing like the stage 2 found here: http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml

They make a similar cam for the d16z motors as well.

Now if it is worth it or not, that is up to you... I'm just providing some direction in regards to an optimal camshaft. That was the original question.

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Your right man but is also come down to what your looking for like me i'm going to be using an aftermarket cam more as a told than to use it for just hp gains....i mean you can compare a stock cam to an aftermarket cam on a SC set you might now gain any top end HP but i will make the world of difference throughout your rpm range if it's tuned right!


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gold DA9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thinking about switch from turbo to S/C since..im a poor college student. How do you guys use the Eaton superchargers on the D-series?

Here is my current situation.

Blown motor. No compression in one cylinder...also fired rings.
Full turbo setup w/ small IHI RHB5 turbo

After reading this thread I was thinking about rebuilding my motor with oem parts minus the rod bolts and S/C it. I found a online compression calculator and these were the results i found.

Stock Z6 w/ D16A1 pistons = 12.03:1 static compression

Is this to high for a supercharger? I would like to be around 200 whp+
Also i can get 93 or 94 on the pump and sometimes 100 octane.

Also with the stock head will i be limiting the potential of the supersharger?

Which S/C would help me reach this goal???? Also how do you get the Eaton ones to work?

Or do you think I should just rebuild it for turbo??? Car is a 95 Del Sol Si.</TD></TR></TABLE>

With a CR it's going to be tough because it's going to be like a flame throwing motor anything above 11.5:1 CR on a SC setup is going to have a lot of detonation and wont last unless your run some serious octance or some sort of alcohol or water injection because SC aren't like turbos that they past through a IC core and the air temperature is cooled before it reaches the motor...SC's take in engine bay temperature which is already hot increase the velocity of it and stuffs it into the engine so just picture 180+ air cramb into your engine bay and than igniting it? You have to some how fine a way to deminish detonation...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_sir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone know if endyn is still selling the pulley upgrade to up the boost....i want to see if i can get the blower to run atleast 11psi</TD></TR></TABLE>
With my old D16Z6 JRSC setup I got 10psi using the 8lb Jackson pulley and a CRV crank pulley.

We made 180whp on a MD @10psi. Then we threw some nitrous on and made 251whp/227tq. 12.7@113 in the 1/4 mile weighing 2,700lbs

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gitwidit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
With my old D16Z6 JRSC setup I got 10psi using the 8lb Jackson pulley and a CRV crank pulley.

We made 180whp on a MD @10psi. Then we threw some nitrous on and made 251whp/227tq. 12.7@113 in the 1/4 mile weighing 2,700lbs </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah thats the combo everyone has suggested i mean it's not 11psi but it's 10 which is still good... and well by 12psi the SC is producing too much heat...I'm going to call up endyn and see what they have and suggest... on that set up you guys had how much nitrous did you squeeze on it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_sir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on that set up you guys had how much nitrous did you squeeze on it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
100 shot dry tuned using Hondata Nitrous controls to add fuel and pull timing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gold DA9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thinking about switch from turbo to S/C since..im a poor college student. How do you guys use the Eaton superchargers on the D-series?

Here is my current situation.

Blown motor. No compression in one cylinder...also fired rings.
Full turbo setup w/ small IHI RHB5 turbo

After reading this thread I was thinking about rebuilding my motor with oem parts minus the rod bolts and S/C it. I found a online compression calculator and these were the results i found.

Stock Z6 w/ D16A1 pistons = 12.03:1 static compression

Is this to high for a supercharger? I would like to be around 200 whp+
Also i can get 93 or 94 on the pump and sometimes 100 octane.

Also with the stock head will i be limiting the potential of the supersharger?

Which S/C would help me reach this goal???? Also how do you get the Eaton ones to work?

Or do you think I should just rebuild it for turbo??? Car is a 95 Del Sol Si.</TD></TR></TABLE>
d16a6 pistons will get you around 10.0:1 if i remember correctly with the z6 head and stock head gasket

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gitwidit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
100 shot dry tuned using Hondata Nitrous controls to add fuel and pull timing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
before or after the sc?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
d16a6 pistons will get you around 10.0:1 if i remember correctly with the z6 head and stock head gasket</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bingo...

I'm running those pistons in my D16Z6. Compression is around 10.4:1 with a .5mm overbore.

I was boosting with a JRSC on 91 octane without any problems.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JICEK9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
before or after the sc?</TD></TR></TABLE>
befor the sc...ran nitrous for 3 years ALOT and never did any damage to the blower.