tegasaurus / I could for sure
sam

 

Could someone help me in setting up my williem burner? I got the correct 1:1 cable, adn the power, have the program running. I set up the 12 position switch correctly according to the chip. NO idea about the 4pin dip switch.

What "device" are you saying it is? I have a 29c256 chip, but i have to put it under 28c256 chip since there is no selection for my chip. Any ideas/ I'm getting errors adn can't burn. Thanks

Danny

 

94goldjungsr - what did you end up with on the dyno with that map?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA-MAX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would any of you more experienced guys be willing to solder in the resistors, socket and the 74HC and jumper if we sent you the ECU and the necessary parts(ie-resistors, etc.)?? even for a fee is need be. just wondering...I'm not too experienced with the soldering iron</TD></TR></TABLE>

I could for you. But you would have to ship it out to colorado though.

 

if anyone wants a chip burned, send me an eprom, the file you want burned, 37 cents to send it back and ill burn it for ya
really i will - send me a pm or email
later

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6Elmo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could someone help me in setting up my williem burner? I got the correct 1:1 cable, adn the power, have the program running. I set up the 12 position switch correctly according to the chip. NO idea about the 4pin dip switch.

What "device" are you saying it is? I have a 29c256 chip, but i have to put it under 28c256 chip since there is no selection for my chip. Any ideas/ I'm getting errors adn can't burn. Thanks

Danny</TD></TR></TABLE>

edit -- Here is a message I received from omaha, Hopefully this information will help out others as well

"First of all use this version of the software http://www.willem.org/ZIP/epr097g.zip the at29c256 is in there under "Flash AT29C/AT29EExxx". Make sure the chip is inserted like this. http://www.ditcorp.com/ditol/images/willem.jpg. Make sure switches 5,6,9 and 11 are on per the diagram in the software. The 4 red switches should be left on as well as all the jumpers should have came set properly. If all this is set right it should work. If you get a hardware failure check your printer port settings. If you get a write error make sure everything on the willem is set right and make sure you jumper wire is making good contact but not too thick that it causes pin 1 of the chip to make poor contact. Hope this helps!

Chris"



Modified by R6Elmo at 4:44 PM 10/10/2003

 

true it only costs like $150 to start burning chips and equivilent fuel setups costs like $400......

 

great thread btw, I downloaded the program already but i have some questions about the programmer and chip burning.

With the ROMulator I can make real time changes to my map but how will i be able to get that new map into a chip so i don't have to re-burn every 12-hours.

TIA

 

I'm gonna take a stab at it and say that you will HAVE to buy a burner still...the romulator only allows you to make changes and run the .bin on your ECU(until 12 hours with no power passes), but cannot burn to the chips with it! the burner will alow you to write to the chips and then pop in the ECU and run for however long! I might get both, but I'm still debating if the romulator is truly worthwhile

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and guys thanks for the offers for chipping...I'll probably be contacting one of you next week when I pick up my spare ECU

 

I need a map for a 816a2 w/8-10 lbs of boost! t3/to4e 57-61trim
Should I just start with the gsr map? I know that alot of you guys are runing b16 so post your maps up

 

Why the hell get a ROMulator or whatever? Why spend the money. Get a burner for $65 and youre set. May not be as "cool" but it will make permanant changes. Spend the money from the ROMulator to up the boost instead.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Chipping JDM ecus is considerably more difficult however.-PHiZ</TD></TR></TABLE>

phiz, are you saying this specifically due to the JDM ECUs are missing the injector test circuit and the pa sensor?

i am anticipating that the physically modifying the ECU to recieve a chip should be no more difficult than a USDM. Same for the auto/manual conversion.

the difficulty lies in the fact that the USDM code is going to look for the injector test circuit and the pa sensor, so you will get two CELs, do you agree? or is there more to it?

thanks,
Joe

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si2die4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need a map for a 816a2 w/8-10 lbs of boost! t3/to4e 57-61trim
Should I just start with the gsr map? I know that alot of you guys are runing b16 so post your maps up </TD></TR></TABLE>

try the GSR map

Rob

 

why will the gsr map work can someone explain it to me ??<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjardy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
try the GSR map
Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

It's very, very similar to a B16A map except the injectors stay open a little longer to feed the bigger engine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by falconGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

phiz, are you saying this specifically due to the JDM ECUs are missing the injector test circuit and the pa sensor?

i am anticipating that the physically modifying the ECU to recieve a chip should be no more difficult than a USDM. Same for the auto/manual conversion.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.autoserve.8m.com/St....html

Notice the size difference between the Surface mount components (SMT) used in the JDM ecu, and the regular sized components (VLSI?)on the USDM ecu.

Most performance roms out there are all JDM P30 code, for several reasons, the Japanese ECUs lack several sensors, and well. Most of the performace companies exist in japan.

The approach taken, is to hack ONE rom, and then just tune the fuel and ignition curves for a certain engine. So let's say Mugen, does all the sensor hacking open loop/closed loop, A/C cut, etc. and then have a version for B16 and a version for B18cR... make sense?

-PHiZ

 

are you saying that the JDM ecus use surface mount components and the USDM ECUs use through hole parts (parts with leads that go through holes in the board)?

i agree that requires a bit more skill to solder surface mount parts, but i was more concerned with the electrical differences between the ECUs.

thanks for a link to katmans site. i hadnt seen it yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by falconGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you saying that the JDM ecus use surface mount components and the USDM ECUs use through hole parts (parts with leads that go through holes in the board)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

If the rom you load doesn't check for the sensors, the sensors being missing doesn't matter. I.e. a JDM rom base in a USDM ecu.

And that's not Katmans site, if you're thinking of my links, that is my friend richard's site.

-PHiZ

http://jdmhondaparts.com/ecu.htm is katman's site, good guy

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly.

If the rom you load doesn't check for the sensors, the sensors being missing doesn't matter. I.e. a JDM rom base in a USDM ecu.

And that's not Katmans site, if you're thinking of my links, that is my friend richard's site.

-PHiZ

http://jdmhondaparts.com/ecu.htm is katman's site, good guy </TD></TR></TABLE>

oh ok cool. i guess i'll try a JDM bin on my JDM ecu. i dont know how i will add boost and edit the fuel and timing tables though. maybe one of the pgmfi programs will work? like crome or uberdata?

since this is going in a GSR, i'll probably start with a jdm p72 bin, but this is going to expect to see the knock board installed,which my jdm p28 (or any p28) will not have.

is the best approach to dasm the bin and figure out how / where to disable the knock code? if there is some sort of subroutine that processes the raw knock input, i could just disable the output (set it to null or something) of this code so its always inactive and not influencing the timing etc.

Thanks for your help,
Joe

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by falconGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

oh ok cool. i guess i'll try a JDM bin on my JDM ecu. i dont know how i will add boost and edit the fuel and timing tables though. maybe one of the pgmfi programs will work? like crome or uberdata?

since this is going in a GSR, i'll probably start with a jdm p72 bin, but this is going to expect to see the knock board installed,which my jdm p28 (or any p28) will not have.

is the best approach to dasm the bin and figure out how / where to disable the knock code? if there is some sort of subroutine that processes the raw knock input, i could just disable the output (set it to null or something) of this code so its always inactive and not influencing the timing etc.

Thanks for your help,
Joe
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JDM program in a JDM ecu, you sir are a wild man! Hrm, putting a jdm P72 rom in a JDM P28... do you mean P30/P08? There is obviously the lack of IAB control circuitry, maybe you're running a different IM. But the other problem is hte P72 code looking for IAB on the P28. This is something you should have considered, but maybe you already know the answer, IAB is a non-diagnostic part, I.E. disconnection doesn't throw a code.

As far as disabling knock, you're not jumping around a routine, you're setting a check byte to OFF.

http://www.nitroburn.com/pgmfiwiki/index.php/P72

-PHiZ

 

yeah, i was under the impression the IAB hardware would not throw a code, i am concerned about whatever IO port the processor actuates to control the IAB - i hope that isnt connected to anything else where it could damage something if its trying to control the IAB and the IO is connected to something else.

at some point i am planning on replacing the gsr manifold with a skunk2 piece.

i dont know which ecu i am getting exactly. i told the guy (user SiFreak on here, he's sold over 200 ecus on here, all from overseas) i wanted an auto ecu, and he said he could get me the JDM equivalent of an auto P28 ecu (i want the torque convertor control for boost control at some point)

i will have it in hand on monday hopefully, i plan to have pics and details of my setup posted here since i think i got the most common type of ecu available now that the usdm ecus are steadily becoming more scarce as they are being cherry picked out of local junkyards all over the US.

also, i recall some issues with the temperature sensor on obd2 cars being different, and some people had to install an obd1 temp sensor to be compatible with their chipped ecu and code. i would expect this is a concern for everyone converting to obd1, but i havent heard it mentioned in this thread or anywhere recently...

 

how do i get ahold of the 3 bar uberdata? i emailed uberteg@***.net, and i havnt got a response. help me out!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do i get ahold of the 3 bar uberdata? i emailed uberteg@***.net, and i havnt got a response. help me out!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you donated anything to the cause? Have you read the thread?

 

I WILL DONATE, YES, but i would like to hear from uberteg before i just send him money. For all i know, i could be sending the money to the wrong place. And yes i have read the thread like 3 times

 

ill talk to him for u