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Re: USDM ecus only? (94goldjungsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">p28s are like $50 if you shop around. Even less often.</TD></TR></TABLE>
BUUUUULLLLSSSSHHHHIIIITTTTT
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BUUUUULLLLSSSSHHHHIIIITTTTT
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They've gotten rarer lately... the cheapest I can find is $125 for an A/T version (CDN) about $85 USD.
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Re: USDM ecus only? (PHiZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHiZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
BUUUUULLLLSSSSHHHHIIIITTTTT
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I got one for $20 once
just gotta find the junkyards that arent honda specific who just wanna get rid of the stuff
BUUUUULLLLSSSSHHHHIIIITTTTT
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I got one for $20 once
just gotta find the junkyards that arent honda specific who just wanna get rid of the stuff
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I just have to add that this is a great thread...I've read over all 17 pages about 2 -3 times and I've learned a **** load...looks like OBDI swap and Uberdata is the way for me! 
just wanna confirm..for a 90-91 OBD0 Integra I'm looking for an OBD1 PR4 from a 92-93 or a OBD1 P74 from a 94+ Integra?? Thanks for any help
EDIT: just read greekspeeds post..could someone elaborate more on that about the OBD1 PR4 and P74 differences(if any)??
just wanna confirm..for a 90-91 OBD0 Integra I'm looking for an OBD1 PR4 from a 92-93 or a OBD1 P74 from a 94+ Integra?? Thanks for any help
EDIT: just read greekspeeds post..could someone elaborate more on that about the OBD1 PR4 and P74 differences(if any)??
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Re: USDM ecus only? (greekspeed)
I have a turbo LS. I chipped the PR4 and the P75 with the same chip. P75 ran better. It was as if my PR4 wasn't reading the rom or something. ANd yes, i know how to chip ecus.
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Re: USDM ecus only? (R6Elmo)
Ok, certain families of ECUs will run certain families of code.
Kinda like your PC won't run mackintosh software. kinda.
Here is what I know
P28, P30, P05, P06 are the same family, and can run cross platform code.
P72, P75, P73, are teh same family and will run the same code.
I also have it on good authority that P75/P72/P73 code will run on P28/P06/P30 ecus.
Anyone feel free to elaborate.
Raene, sorry to treat you like a noob, but I'm tired of ppl coming off like they need hand-holding, s-fly had the same info as you, and he was able to come up with an answer...
but, yeah, those images are shitty to read.
-PHiZ
Kinda like your PC won't run mackintosh software. kinda.
Here is what I know
P28, P30, P05, P06 are the same family, and can run cross platform code.
P72, P75, P73, are teh same family and will run the same code.
I also have it on good authority that P75/P72/P73 code will run on P28/P06/P30 ecus.
Anyone feel free to elaborate.
Raene, sorry to treat you like a noob, but I'm tired of ppl coming off like they need hand-holding, s-fly had the same info as you, and he was able to come up with an answer...
but, yeah, those images are shitty to read.-PHiZ
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Re: (raene)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow... that looks hella easy, and I'm willing to bet the guy would let the auto ECU go for much cheaper than the manual. There are no other differences than those jumpers? I wish the picture was bigger - I can't see anything on that one... and the board shown which is supposed P28 looks nothing like Katman's pic of a P28 ECU </TD></TR></TABLE>
[edited] i thought this was a pic of a jdm ecu i am not sure antmore still learning! [/edited]. I will be trying to figure out how to convert one of these to manual next week. hopefully its as straightforward as it is on the USDM ECUs
</TD></TR></TABLE>[edited] i thought this was a pic of a jdm ecu i am not sure antmore still learning! [/edited]. I will be trying to figure out how to convert one of these to manual next week. hopefully its as straightforward as it is on the USDM ECUs
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by falconGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah Katmans pic is of a JSM p28 ECU. I will be trying to figure out how to convert one of these to manual next week. hopefully its as straightforward as it is on the USDM ECUs</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe you could let us know how that goes
yeah Katmans pic is of a JSM p28 ECU. I will be trying to figure out how to convert one of these to manual next week. hopefully its as straightforward as it is on the USDM ECUs</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe you could let us know how that goes
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Re: USDM ecus only? (R6Elmo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6Elmo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a turbo LS. I chipped the PR4 and the P75 with the same chip. P75 ran better. It was as if my PR4 wasn't reading the rom or something. ANd yes, i know how to chip ecus.
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if your ecu wasnt reading the rom you would go into limp mode. it would be quite obvious.
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if your ecu wasnt reading the rom you would go into limp mode. it would be quite obvious.
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Re: USDM ecus only? (94goldjungsr)
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if your ecu wasnt reading the rom you would go into limp mode. it would be quite obvious.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmm well maybe it simply did not work as well?
if your ecu wasnt reading the rom you would go into limp mode. it would be quite obvious.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmm well maybe it simply did not work as well?
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Re: USDM ecus only? (greekspeed)
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hmm well maybe it simply did not work as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds highly doubtful from your results. Sounds like it was in your head.
You must understand, its not as if the signals given to the ecu are going to change, nor is the way the ecu going to change the way it interprets a signal in a subtle way as you are descrbing. If its not in limp mode or reasonably out of whack, its in your head imho.
hmm well maybe it simply did not work as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds highly doubtful from your results. Sounds like it was in your head.
You must understand, its not as if the signals given to the ecu are going to change, nor is the way the ecu going to change the way it interprets a signal in a subtle way as you are descrbing. If its not in limp mode or reasonably out of whack, its in your head imho.
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Re: USDM ecus only? (94goldjungsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds highly doubtful from your results. Sounds like it was in your head.
You must understand, its not as if the signals given to the ecu are going to change, nor is the way the ecu going to change the way it interprets a signal in a subtle way as you are descrbing. If its not in limp mode or reasonably out of whack, its in your head imho.</TD></TR></TABLE>
uhh this isnt my car
its r6's
Sounds highly doubtful from your results. Sounds like it was in your head.
You must understand, its not as if the signals given to the ecu are going to change, nor is the way the ecu going to change the way it interprets a signal in a subtle way as you are descrbing. If its not in limp mode or reasonably out of whack, its in your head imho.</TD></TR></TABLE>
uhh this isnt my car
its r6's
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Re: USDM ecus only? (djmatix)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djmatix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, it works on jdm ecus as well. I'm using it on a JDM P30 ecu with a JDM p72 turbo rom.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where did you get that rom? Mind sending me the bin? Let me know. I have access to a JDM P72 but I can't even find a stock JDM P72 rom.
Been searching.
Where did you get that rom? Mind sending me the bin? Let me know. I have access to a JDM P72 but I can't even find a stock JDM P72 rom.
Been searching.
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Re: (94goldjungsr)
as far a a romulator goes, its not really real-time, just skips chip removal/replacement right? so you would still need the burner in this case to link to the romulator? I was thinking the romulator wen't straight to te laptop(sorry if this is "noobish") I was considering this, but it doesn't seem worth it when you can just pop out the ECU, reburn, "re-chip" and pop it back in
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
define realtime.
if you want emulation you can use an emulator JUST like hondata does. if you look at the emulator hondata uses, its not like they make it themselves or it has any dependence on any specific element of the Hondata control box or something. All it does is place a cord from your burner into the chip location so you can burn on the fly without having to take chips in and out. I think its pretty superfluous for $200~ that they cost. But... if you wanan say you can burn on the fly, go for it!
Its useless on the dyno though and when doing street tuning imho, because you should be cooling your car down between runs somewhat
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
define realtime.
if you want emulation you can use an emulator JUST like hondata does. if you look at the emulator hondata uses, its not like they make it themselves or it has any dependence on any specific element of the Hondata control box or something. All it does is place a cord from your burner into the chip location so you can burn on the fly without having to take chips in and out. I think its pretty superfluous for $200~ that they cost. But... if you wanan say you can burn on the fly, go for it!
Its useless on the dyno though and when doing street tuning imho, because you should be cooling your car down between runs somewhatsam</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (falconGSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by falconGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah Katmans pic is of a JSM p28 ECU. I will be trying to figure out how to convert one of these to manual next week. hopefully its as straightforward as it is on the USDM ECUs</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice - keep us posted The wrecking yards around here are very Honda-wise since there's so many Honda drivers, but they don't seem to know the value of the automatic P28s the way they do the manuals (the cheapest manual I could find was $195... and he wouldn't budge on the price). Perhaps this could be a far better option than a manual P28 for people like me.
PHiZ, no worries I don't mind digging in and learning but I'd like to know where to dig, y'know?
yeah Katmans pic is of a JSM p28 ECU. I will be trying to figure out how to convert one of these to manual next week. hopefully its as straightforward as it is on the USDM ECUs</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice - keep us posted
The wrecking yards around here are very Honda-wise since there's so many Honda drivers, but they don't seem to know the value of the automatic P28s the way they do the manuals (the cheapest manual I could find was $195... and he wouldn't budge on the price). Perhaps this could be a far better option than a manual P28 for people like me. PHiZ, no worries
I don't mind digging in and learning but I'd like to know where to dig, y'know?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA-MAX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as far a a romulator goes, its not really real-time, just skips chip removal/replacement right? so you would still need the burner in this case to link to the romulator? I was thinking the romulator wen't straight to te laptop(sorry if this is "noobish") I was considering this, but it doesn't seem worth it when you can just pop out the ECU, reburn, "re-chip" and pop it back in
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you still need the chip burner. the romulator doesnt go straight to the laptop. but it is pretty much real time.
sam
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you still need the chip burner. the romulator doesnt go straight to the laptop. but it is pretty much real time.
sam
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i was just looking at this one:
http://www.hondata.com/romulator.html
on the hondata website.
its a little different than the old one they were using. i have never used this one. it looks pretty similar thogh.
http://www.hondata.com/romulator.html
on the hondata website.
its a little different than the old one they were using. i have never used this one. it looks pretty similar thogh.
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heres the actual site for that romulator--->
http://www.xtronics.com/memory/romutator.htm
I htink they also have a programmer too, for $150(but seems you can find Batronix for much less)
oh and 94goldjungsr, thanks for clearing that up
http://www.xtronics.com/memory/romutator.htm
I htink they also have a programmer too, for $150(but seems you can find Batronix for much less)
oh and 94goldjungsr, thanks for clearing that up
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Re: (94goldjungsr)
just wonder is the pocket romulator the best and only one we should use? Is there a benefit using this over another type .....
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/lorgler/ebyter.htm
http://www.futurlec.com/EPROMEmulator.shtml
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/lorgler/ebyter.htm
http://www.futurlec.com/EPROMEmulator.shtml
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Re: (raene)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nice - keep us posted The wrecking yards around here are very Honda-wise since there's so many Honda drivers, but they don't seem to know the value of the automatic P28s the way they do the manuals (the cheapest manual I could find was $195... and he wouldn't budge on the price). Perhaps this could be a far better option than a manual P28 for people like me.
PHiZ, no worries I don't mind digging in and learning but I'd like to know where to dig, y'know? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i havent come up with a definitive answer on how to convert a JDM p28 auto ecu to manual yet. if anybody knows, please share it here.
Nice - keep us posted
The wrecking yards around here are very Honda-wise since there's so many Honda drivers, but they don't seem to know the value of the automatic P28s the way they do the manuals (the cheapest manual I could find was $195... and he wouldn't budge on the price). Perhaps this could be a far better option than a manual P28 for people like me. PHiZ, no worries
I don't mind digging in and learning but I'd like to know where to dig, y'know? </TD></TR></TABLE>i havent come up with a definitive answer on how to convert a JDM p28 auto ecu to manual yet. if anybody knows, please share it here.