Will Uberdata idle 1000cc injectors without any issues?

 

hey guys - does anyone have an older version of the Batronix Prog-Studio, somewhere around v5.09 or so.... For some reason i can't get the newest version to work!! Help would be greatly appreciated, if you do please email it to me at falkenha@purdue.edu,thx!!

 

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i totally disagree. the one who knows not and knows he knows not is the wise nman who is always in search of knowledge. the one who knows and knows he knows is the arrogant fool who cannot learn.

 

Is anyone on this thread using a TechEdge v2.0 or 1.5 wideband for tuning? How is it working for you?

Has anyone built the kit? Would you recommend it?

 

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ive got a 2.0 but i still haven't put it together. ill post when its done.

 

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i totally disagree. the one who knows not and knows he knows not is the wise nman who is always in search of knowledge. the one who knows and knows he knows is the arrogant fool who cannot learn.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It is nice to see that despite the topic at hand, which is uberdata and related other topics, people want to increase their post count by voicing their opinions on other people's signatures. As if the noobs don't have enough trouble searching for quality posts as it is.

Why do you think this is appropriate behavior? Why do you think your opinion is important enough to take a thread completely off topic? Why do you think the people participating in this thread would want to be bothered with useless information unrelated to the topic at hand?

 

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It is nice to see that despite the topic at hand, which is uberdata and related other topics, people want to increase their post count by voicing their opinions on other people's signatures. As if the noobs don't have enough trouble searching for quality posts as it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. Now back to the topic. My 450cc are running fine, probably on the rich side but I haven`t play much with the fuel table.


Modified by Civic TSI at 1:51 PM 1/5/2004

 

anyone that has a jdm ecu, how do you access your chips easily? did you remove the board that sits above it? can you even do that?

 

Just thought I'd let you guys know, I ran Ubderdata 1.63 today and it was

There were a few glitches, but hey, it worked, infact I drove it some 20 miles to my in-laws house on it with no real problems. This is on my 99 GSR with RC 440's btw. Out of boost the car didn't like to cruise in low vacuum (more load), but in greater vacuum it was a little better. I did notice something interesting, while crusing on the highway in 5th, my A/F gauge was fixed at rich.... in other words, it was in open loop the entire time. I thought Uberdata didn't force the ECU into open loop like you could with Hondata?? Either way, it was running fine while crusing, it was accelerating from a stop that the car didn't like, alot of misfiring/hesitation coordinating with the A/F gauge jumping to lean for that moment, I'm thinking the injectors are shutting momentarily, why I don't know but.... tuning to come

 

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Here is my post...it's in there.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=714192

 

Good to hear...Try zapping those bugs away...and let us know how you did.


Woah...Page 18!!! Wonder if Blake is having a silly new year....Like to know what's the update on Ubbie.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ndogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one more thing, i havn't really run uberdata much but i ran it all day today and noticed that my injectors seems to shut off a little prematurely and also they came back on a little late. this was causing a little jerking when i am just barely giving it gas. did anyone else notice this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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There were a few glitches, but hey, it worked, infact I drove it some 20 miles to my in-laws house on it with no real problems. This is on my 99 GSR with RC 440's btw. Out of boost the car didn't like to cruise in low vacuum (more load), but in greater vacuum it was a little better. I did notice something interesting, while crusing on the highway in 5th, my A/F gauge was fixed at rich.... in other words, it was in open loop the entire time. I thought Uberdata didn't force the ECU into open loop like you could with Hondata?? Either way, it was running fine while crusing, it was accelerating from a stop that the car didn't like, alot of misfiring/hesitation coordinating with the A/F gauge jumping to lean for that moment, I'm thinking the injectors are shutting momentarily, why I don't know but.... tuning to come </TD></TR></TABLE>
Your the second one i hear about that he thinks that the injectors shut to soon or open to early. Try to talk to Ndogg maybe he found out what it was i thought he sayd something about the TPS. and that it only was when he was barely giving gas.

@ Blake : Can we get a memorymap of your programm.

 

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Nobody know the answer to this one??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toxicshit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your the second one i hear about that he thinks that the injectors shut to soon or open to early. Try to talk to Ndogg maybe he found out what it was i thought he sayd something about the TPS. and that it only was when he was barely giving gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I third that, definitely seems to be a TPS issue. Yep, I tried it @ 11psi and everything ran smooth. Next step is going to be the 3bar map sensor, I know the option is there but has it been tested yet ?

As for the 1000cc injectors, as I recall any stand alone will start having a hard time with 800cc+ injector at idle.

 

Yea I should mention that within boost, the car ran 100% smoothly through the gears, the only problem was the low throttle cut-out, ever so similar to the AFC-hack

 

I'll add on to the low throttle cutout list...
NA D16Z6 with 450s, several programs I whipped up. Tried both lean AFRs and rich. both produced missing/bucking at extremely low loads. TPS voltage within spec (.5v/4.5v) Much less/no problems with same tune done in UD1.2

Thanks for the good work Blake!

 

my car bucks at low throttle/load too, pos program.

blunder, 1.2 didnt do it as much? I slightly changed the map uncorking code, i'll have a look at it cuz there is code right above it that cuts fuel at certain map pressures.

 

part of it is probably because honda's use a MAP sensor instead of a MAF sensor like DSM's do. Just a thought.

-P

 

Something interesting of note while driving the car last night on Uberdata again, whenever the car would see greater than 500 mm/Hg vacuum (very low throttle), the A/F gauge would stay pegged on the rich end, but with less than 500 mm/Hg (more throttle) and closer to atmospheric, the A/F would cycle back and forth as the car should during closed loop. I do get the feeling this is somehow tied to the TPS, almost as if when it's too low the ECU just assumes you're at 0 TPS and holds the injectors at an idle position.. not 100% sure about this but that's my guess for now

Either way, she idles fine and runs VERY hard in boost with a base (rich) map and only .65 degrees-per-psi retard

 

My car goes full lean at very, very small throttle, full rich at a miniscule amount of throttle more than that, and cycles through stoich at slightly more than that. I still haven't gotten 1.63 running yet either The snowstorms we've been having lately have had a lot to do with that, though!

Buraku, anything you could do to fix the problem would be lovely.. I get stuck in traffic 5 days a week driving home and while having the car jump around like a bronco is interesting... I'd prefer stock behaviour

 

are we sayin that at this point 1.2 is the better version to run at the moment?

 

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I am not using 1.6x daily yet because 1.2 runs perfect and does everything I need it to do for now. A lot of the new features seem pretty cool though and I will help testing more when the weather here clears up.

 

I too don't need right now all the features of 1.63 but I'll stick with it anyway and continue testing it, it must move foward.

Repost from my older post, the pic didn't work. It's slower but at least the pic will show up.

As Hondata, the main "problem" I saw was the chip removal for changing program. Now all I will have to do is pull the carpet to access the chip, just waiting to get my ZIF socket for an easier process.



Also, even though it wasn't an error, it was annoying me not to see (beside the fuel table) which map sensor the rom was using in the boost window when opening a new rom . So I made a slight modification to the script file "autoexec.txt", if someone could host it, it would be appreciated. My site is still down and I've heard it's going to be for a while

 

Hmm.. I think I'm gonna burn a new map based on 1.2 and see how she runs.

As for chip installation and removal, I hear ya!! It's a real PITA having to swap chips but once I get a ZIF for the ECU that should be easy. Also, I wish I had a cigarette lighter style power source for my Willem burner so I didn't have to come back home to burn chips. It'd be nice to hit the street with my laptop, ROM burner and wideband (once I got it) and do the tuning in one shot.

 

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It uses a 12v source so would that work? Splicing up a cig lighter end to a power cord?

I've got 1 ZIF socket left if you need it PM me.