How important is a oilcooler?
10-14-2004, 07:57 AM
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How important is a oilcooler?
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I'm building a turbo engine it's a Td04E Hybrid turbo with a b16a1 engine, forged internals, acl bearings. Looking for around 15psi on 9,1 compression.
My turbo is only oilcooled, does this make the importance of a oilcooler more important? I that case what size of oilcooler should I be looking for?
I'm building a turbo engine it's a Td04E Hybrid turbo with a b16a1 engine, forged internals, acl bearings. Looking for around 15psi on 9,1 compression.
My turbo is only oilcooled, does this make the importance of a oilcooler more important? I that case what size of oilcooler should I be looking for?
10-14-2004, 08:00 AM
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yeah an oil cooler is a must on a turbo car... many guys here dont run a oil cooler and are fine...
But keep in mind that with a turbo your oil get really hot and you would like to get cooler oil for your engine and your turbo.
Personally I run a B&M oil cooler with the thermostat and its fine this way... I plane to rmove the thermostat cuz I dont run the car in winter... yup here it will be like -20c in a few weeks lol
But keep in mind that with a turbo your oil get really hot and you would like to get cooler oil for your engine and your turbo.
Personally I run a B&M oil cooler with the thermostat and its fine this way... I plane to rmove the thermostat cuz I dont run the car in winter... yup here it will be like -20c in a few weeks lol
10-14-2004, 08:03 AM
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Re: (yellowturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah an oil cooler is a must on a turbo car... many guys here dont run a oil cooler and are fine...
But keep in mind that with a turbo your oil get really hot and you would like to get cooler oil for your engine and your turbo.
Personally I run a B&M oil cooler with the thermostat and its fine this way... I plane to rmove the thermostat cuz I dont run the car in winter... yup here it will be like -20c in a few weeks lol </TD></TR></TABLE>
How big that oilcooler?
Dude over here we got 0 degrees allready...
But keep in mind that with a turbo your oil get really hot and you would like to get cooler oil for your engine and your turbo.
Personally I run a B&M oil cooler with the thermostat and its fine this way... I plane to rmove the thermostat cuz I dont run the car in winter... yup here it will be like -20c in a few weeks lol </TD></TR></TABLE>
How big that oilcooler?
Dude over here we got 0 degrees allready...
10-14-2004, 08:23 AM
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oh ok you are from Sweden ! nice ! well for the size it doesnt take something too big... maybe around like 5inch x 10 inch...
and if you are running your car in winter I would get a thermostat.
BTW here its like 0 degree or so also...
and if you are running your car in winter I would get a thermostat.
BTW here its like 0 degree or so also...
10-14-2004, 08:29 AM
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Don't wory i be running the Corolla during the winter 
Do you allso have a oiltemp gauge? In that case what temp do you have usually driving mid hard?
Do you allso have a oiltemp gauge? In that case what temp do you have usually driving mid hard?
10-14-2004, 08:34 AM
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well it cost me like 80$ CAN cuz I bought it from a friend... the installation is pretty easy.
No I dont have any oil temp gauge... I know I should have one....
No I dont have any oil temp gauge... I know I should have one....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plane to rmove the thermostat cuz I dont run the car in winter... yup here it will be like -20c in a few weeks lol </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude keep that stat, the oil needs to be warm to work corectly!
Most would run one w/o and that is NOT the way to do it!
I will be running an ITR oil "Heater/Cooler" WITH a stat and cooler
Dude keep that stat, the oil needs to be warm to work corectly!
Most would run one w/o and that is NOT the way to do it!
I will be running an ITR oil "Heater/Cooler" WITH a stat and cooler
10-14-2004, 09:56 AM
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Hi Yash... How you doin...
The b16a2 in euro version has the stock oilcooler/warmer anyway but i don´t know about the b16a1.
The us b16a1 don´t have that..... I think... If you plan to run an oil cooler use a thermostat controlled one... // Welen
The b16a2 in euro version has the stock oilcooler/warmer anyway but i don´t know about the b16a1.
The us b16a1 don´t have that..... I think... If you plan to run an oil cooler use a thermostat controlled one... // Welen
10-14-2004, 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The sweed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Yash... How you doin...
The b16a2 in euro version has the stock oilcooler/warmer anyway but i don´t know about the b16a1.
The us b16a1 don´t have that..... I think... If you plan to run an oil cooler use a thermostat controlled one... // Welen</TD></TR></TABLE>
We have the b16a2 here in the US and it does not have the cooler/warmer!
Also we have already discussed the thermo issue
BUT thanks for your opinion on the matter
The b16a2 in euro version has the stock oilcooler/warmer anyway but i don´t know about the b16a1.
The us b16a1 don´t have that..... I think... If you plan to run an oil cooler use a thermostat controlled one... // Welen</TD></TR></TABLE>
We have the b16a2 here in the US and it does not have the cooler/warmer!
Also we have already discussed the thermo issue
BUT thanks for your opinion on the matter
10-14-2004, 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si2die4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Dude keep that stat, the oil needs to be warm to work corectly!
Most would run one w/o and that is NOT the way to do it!
I will be running an ITR oil "Heater/Cooler" WITH a stat and cooler </TD></TR></TABLE>
ok I will keep it ! Thanks
Dude keep that stat, the oil needs to be warm to work corectly!
Most would run one w/o and that is NOT the way to do it!
I will be running an ITR oil "Heater/Cooler" WITH a stat and cooler
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok I will keep it !
Thanks
10-14-2004, 10:29 AM
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Re: (The sweed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The sweed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Yash... How you doin...
The b16a2 in euro version has the stock oilcooler/warmer anyway but i don´t know about the b16a1.
The us b16a1 don´t have that..... I think... If you plan to run an oil cooler use a thermostat controlled one... // Welen</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hi Fredrik! I'm doing just fine...waiting for the parts!
The oilcooler you are talking about, isn't it the U form thing in the front? That the b16a1 hasn't, but i thought that it was a oilcooler for the hydro steering oil and not the engine ??? Or do you mean something else?
The b16a2 in euro version has the stock oilcooler/warmer anyway but i don´t know about the b16a1.
The us b16a1 don´t have that..... I think... If you plan to run an oil cooler use a thermostat controlled one... // Welen</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hi Fredrik! I'm doing just fine...waiting for the parts!
The oilcooler you are talking about, isn't it the U form thing in the front? That the b16a1 hasn't, but i thought that it was a oilcooler for the hydro steering oil and not the engine ??? Or do you mean something else?
10-14-2004, 12:12 PM
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The oilcooler is like a sandwitsh addapter that the coolent runs through mounted before the oilfilter.. When the oil is cold the water helps the oil to get to working temp.. When it´s hot the engines coolent helps bringing the temps down..
On my a2 I will mount a oil temp gauge so I can monitor the temp to se were it´s supose to be when the car is NA and when the turbo comes on I`ll see if I need a oil cooler..
The pipes in the front is a cheap way for honda to cool the power steering fluid just like u said ..
On my a2 I will mount a oil temp gauge so I can monitor the temp to se were it´s supose to be when the car is NA and when the turbo comes on I`ll see if I need a oil cooler..
The pipes in the front is a cheap way for honda to cool the power steering fluid just like u said ..
10-14-2004, 12:31 PM
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is it possible to take an oil cooler setup off a jdm b16 motor and use it on a usdm b18c1 motor??? my boy has one chilling in my storage unit and this would be a good mod for my turbo.. let me know if anyone has any info on weather it will work or not.. thanks
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The sweed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The oilcooler is like a sandwitsh addapter that the coolent runs through mounted before the oilfilter.. When the oil is cold the water helps the oil to get to working temp.. When it´s hot the engines coolent helps bringing the temps down..
On my a2 I will mount a oil temp gauge so I can monitor the temp to se were it´s supose to be when the car is NA and when the turbo comes on I`ll see if I need a oil cooler..
The pipes in the front is a cheap way for honda to cool the power steering fluid just like u said ..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I examined my A1 last night and i think found the soundwitch allso on it.
Were do you put the sensor for the oil temp? I thought of putting a waffle?? "våffla" as in swedish before the oilfilter and put a oilcooler together with a temp sensor.
On my a2 I will mount a oil temp gauge so I can monitor the temp to se were it´s supose to be when the car is NA and when the turbo comes on I`ll see if I need a oil cooler..
The pipes in the front is a cheap way for honda to cool the power steering fluid just like u said ..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I examined my A1 last night and i think found the soundwitch
allso on it. Were do you put the sensor for the oil temp? I thought of putting a waffle?? "våffla" as in swedish before the oilfilter and put a oilcooler together with a temp sensor.
10-15-2004, 04:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboBumblBee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it possible to take an oil cooler setup off a jdm b16 motor and use it on a usdm b18c1 motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
It would be if there is one on there. I did not think there was tho...???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YASH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Were do you put the sensor for the oil temp?
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I put mine off a t inline with my press sensor and oil feed for the turbo.
I have an oil "manifold" setup on the fire wall
I believe the best spot is welded on the oil pan tho
It would be if there is one on there. I did not think there was tho...???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YASH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Were do you put the sensor for the oil temp?
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I put mine off a t inline with my press sensor and oil feed for the turbo.
I have an oil "manifold" setup on the fire wall
I believe the best spot is welded on the oil pan tho
10-15-2004, 08:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si2die4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It would be if there is one on there. I did not think there was tho...??
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yes there is one.. ive seen it with my own eyes.. would the water neck fit and be the correct size.. kinda looking for straight answers cause it would be a lotta work to do all this and find out it doenst fit..
It would be if there is one on there. I did not think there was tho...??
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yes there is one.. ive seen it with my own eyes.. would the water neck fit and be the correct size.. kinda looking for straight answers cause it would be a lotta work to do all this and find out it doenst fit..
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