da1haloking

i am starting to build my block and i have been told to just do block gaurd but i have also been told to sleeve my block i never build a turbo engine before so idk wat to do i want this build to last and not break info would be great thanks

luispizarro25

im in the same spot... not doing turbo right now but id like to know as well

boostedcivicsir

first off, power goals. second if you are staying with stock sleeves, dont do a block guard. the sleeve will fail without it.

da1haloking

my power goal is 480 most 400 lest its goign to be a daily

boostedcivicsir

leave the block guard out. have a competent tuner tune it.

da1haloking

but sleeve it? and do u know wat are good sleeves golden eagle or darten

boostedcivicsir

IIRC golden eagle uses darton sleeves. depends on if you want peace of mind. i think jeff evans was making close to 600 on their eg when they were running power street. with stock sleeves. i know nasteboyii made over 500 on his b16 with stock sleeves.

da1haloking

ya i mean i only plain to run 15 pis on track and 10 daily i mean im trying to save money as much as i can thats why i asking u guys cause i never done this before

blueEM1

with what u r saying i think that stock sleeves wil be ok, obviously it would be better to have it sleeved but is not a huge deal if you dont.

da1haloking

so just buy rods and pistons rings, get the block hot tanked and obv brand new water and oil pump

boostedcivicsir

if you put the block in a true hot tank, you will only get the sleeves back. a true hot tank is caustic. for iron blocks only.

Silva Bullit DC4

Never base a goal on psi, as different size turbos make different power at the same pressure level. Your goal is 400 to 480, so based on your setup, your tuner will use whatever psi your setup will give him to make your power goal.

deguzmanEG

good info guys..i'm also stuck on the boat right now and need to decide if i'm sleeving or not this week. It might put me over my budget but peace of mind would be great after spending all this money.

OP sorry man i don't mean to thread jack but this could help you out too

I'm currently doing a build with a Peakboost GT3076R topmount kit on a B18C1. I was originally wanted to just do 9.0:1 cp or wiseco pistons, eagle rods, acl bearings, GE headstuds and more it .20 over. My power goal is 350whp daily with tuning on ChromePro (tuner is most comfortable with).

Do you guys think stock sleeves will suffice for daily driving? it is only driven about 5 months a year and if i can get three years outa it, i'll be happy to rebuild by then

SilverEk3dr

I've been told by certain tuners that they dont like going over 350whp on stock sleeves, and on the other hand. I've seen 600+whp on stock sleeve bottom ends. Its seems like a good idea to do a block guard though. If nothing else it could help salvage some of your parts. So that later on when you go to build another block you dont have to buy all new rods/pistons etc.

0Golden Eagle

wedo NOT use darton sleeves never have never will we make our sleeves in house always have

0Golden Eagle

ware do you get your info from? you have posted 2 times with bad info. you can hot tank a Honda block we do it all the time and so do most sleeving shops. if you do not know please do not post your spreading bad info

0Golden Eagle

we have seen 600 hp on stock sleeves but have also seen stock sleeves fail at 400 hp really depends on tuner. if you want to be safe and be able to make more power later with out having to start over again sleeve it if not be sure you have a good tuner and you should be fine. all a block guard will do for you is if you do crack a sleeve it will save the block so it can be sleeved with out one you might crack the sleeve beyond resleeving

da1haloking

haha thanks guys im gonnna go with sleeves build it once build it right does anyone know how much it would cost to sleeve a gsr block?

Silva Bullit DC4

Contact that guy who posted right above you...Golden Eagle FTW! :-)

AfTeRhOuRs209

I believe dart makes a half sleeve that might be a cheaper alternative but i dont know what im talking about but i thought id throw that in there..