sorry for the delay everyone. I have been on the road for the past few days driving from az to nj.

The intake manifolds have NOT fallen short of expectations at all. In fact, the redesign happend for a few reasons:

1) We wanted to reduce price considerably
2) We found a way to make even *more* power
3) Many people wanted a simple 10 minute operation to run 4 additional injectors which would not cost much money

People have come to expect that a product from Full Race will perform extremely well, but very few can afford it. We are working on changing the second part of that. not hype, not high prices, just a good product that makes a lot of power at an affordable price

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My first prototype intake manifold that i did for my senior ME project last year stomped the edelbrock victor x manifold </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I wouldn't pat yourself on the back for that one....its easy to do. We weren't allow to touch that design, I wish they'd take the Edelbrock off of the manifold and leave JG on it! The stock manifolds can stomp the JG. We only started doing the engineering and design work on the Honda intakes with the PerformerX manifolds, soon to have a B series application.

 

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1) We wanted to reduce price considerably
2) We found a way to make even *more* power
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That's sweet! I think everyone just took my "crap" comment way to seriously....the Honda market needs better running intake manifolds, as most never live up to their claims, such as I gave you props for earlier for holding off the release.

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You actually see a lot of people wanting that? We have always had it, but I hardly ever see anyone running it.

 

2jz-gte or even 2jz-GE... only one aftermarket manifold in existance for these.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry for the delay everyone. I have been on the road for the past few days driving from az to nj.

The intake manifolds have NOT fallen short of expectations at all. In fact, the redesign happend for a few reasons:

1) We wanted to reduce price considerably
2) We found a way to make even *more* power
3) Many people wanted a simple 10 minute operation to run 4 additional injectors which would not cost much money

People have come to expect that a product from Full Race will perform extremely well, but very few can afford it. We are working on changing the second part of that. not hype, not high prices, just a good product that makes a lot of power at an affordable price</TD></TR></TABLE>


I like the sound of all of this

 

Simply revolving the game, major props to Full-Race

 

thanks man, were trying hard

 

any expected date?

 

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and to add to that question, what's the expected price gonna be? (ballpark figures welcome )

 

working on early march and mid to high 6s

 

go sleep geoff type dude, its too early for you to be trolling the boards

 

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Pricing is F*****G SWEET!!!! And this is why we get a better manifold being developed at a lower COST!!! Great, so the consumer in the end benefits!

 

hey make one for the F series, if you do i know someone who would love to test a prototype!!!!

 

look good

 

Will A built N/A see good gains with this manifold or is it geared more towards boosted setup's only?

 

the design is meant to work on NA cars as well. In fact, we have addressed some things which we feel will improve NA power and throttle response and have no adverse affect in a turbo app. Unless you can make over 320 whp with an NA setup, it is highly unlikely that this manifold will go into vaccuum at high RPMs

 

no disrespect, but I don't like it. The runners are too short. Looks to me like you might even lose some low end

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILLICON3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no disrespect, but I don't like it. The runners are too short. Looks to me like you might even lose some low end</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILLICON3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no disrespect, but I don't like it. The runners are too short. Looks to me like you might even lose some low end</TD></TR></TABLE>

a couple questions for you --

1) what do you think the length of the runners is?
2) what do you feel is an appropriate runner length?
3) Why do you feel your runner length is appropriate?

if you can post something like that you surely have reason to back it up ??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a couple questions for you --

1) what do you think the length of the runners is?
2) what do you feel is an appropriate runner length?
3) Why do you feel your runner length is appropriate?

if you can post something like that you surely have reason to back it up ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
People have come to expect that a product from Full Race will perform extremely well, but very few can afford it. We are working on changing the second part of that. not hype, not high prices, just a good product that makes a lot of power at an affordable price</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

a couple questions for you --

1) what do you think the length of the runners is?
2) what do you feel is an appropriate runner length?
3) Why do you feel your runner length is appropriate?

if you can post something like that you surely have reason to back it up ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

I said no disrespect, but if you want to be a little smart *** about it then it's cool by me..

1.Intake-Short Runners=HP. Long Runners=Torque
Exhaust-Short Runners=Torque. Long Runners=HP
2.Longer than that
3.Cause 600 hp is useless on the street, especially when there's only 215 ft lbs of torque

I really get sick and tired of seeing all this full-race jocking on this site(Powercenter7)....Sorry I'm not on the bandwagon.....And it's pretty gay that when I give the guy feedback, I get a whole bunch of the thumbsdown. He obviously wanted something, he posted it on honda-tech.

PS:If you want my feedback on your enterprise, you guys who sell OVERPRICED OVERHYPED METAL. AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY CONNED IN TO PURCHASING THIS STUFF. AND HALF OF YOUR EMPLOYEES AND WORSHIPERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE KEYBOARD TUNER/MECHANICS CLUB

I REALLY LOVE MY 3 SECOND TURBO LAG.....ITS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT I WANT ME A T 78 125 trim

 

wow Illicon...you should go to school.

Im not one to jock anyones nutz, but Geoff does have a Degree in ME. Which does make him&gt;you when it comes to intake design.

Geoff you ever read any text books by John B. Heywood?

 

I'm not an internet super tuner or a mechanical engineer, I just told the truth when the guy asked me to explain my comments on the new 'full-hype' intake manifold. I could careless who has a degree in what, the design sucks for torque. That's a fact. If you don't want to hear it then don't post it up, and then get your panties in a bunch when someone gives 'negative feedback'.

 

i didnt respond like a smartass, sorry you are getting so upset over this. You didnt answer my questions tho, could you honestly not like a ******** or anythign else, just give me some numbers, no words

1) what do you think the length of the runners is?
2) what do you feel is an appropriate runner length?