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Old May 6, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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i can handle this affect of e85 so if you the ones seeking a reason well there it is now you have a reason not to run it lol
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
i didnt have this issue at that whp

my oil this past weekend was real runny, and was greenish in color as well
There is a company out in AZ that can test your oil sample and tell you exactly whats in it and why. (Im sure there are others out there also). I think someone told me it was around $40. Might be interesting to see what they think...
Do you think now since your at this new higher hp (greater cylinder pressures), blowby and/or crankcase ventilation might be an issue?
I would love to try out E85 for myself but unfortunately the nearest station is 45 minutes away...
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Old May 6, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
why people are still trying to find a reason to scrutinize the use of e85 because of supposed affects it causes some of us are really enjoying the use of it.

this is a great test to finally prove that it doesnt affect things the way some might think it does, but beware no matter what some will always try to negate the results
^^^ what he said.................
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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I've heard rumors that it rusts your motor inside out. Who knows if it's true but I hope this thread helps!!
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Old May 6, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gizzmo222
I've heard rumors that it rusts your motor
inside out. Who knows if it's true but I hope this thread helps!!
It does not
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Old May 6, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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It does not

Yeah, gizmo? pure water will do that to your engine. E85 has less than 1% water. Not enough to rust out your motor. And mixed with gasoline it's not as bad but Ethanol mixed with water will eventually corrode certain metals.

I read the thread, that's why I was being polite about suggesting a lid, it was the second time it'd been mentioned "evaporating like crazy." lawl, I'm on page 3 you ninny. Gasoline and Ethanol will not explode in an enclosed container, eg. fuel cans! It's only dangerous if you leave it in direct sunlight and it builds up to high pressure or it is exposed to a spark or flame, the fumes can and will ignite.

Alky in your oil is a very old problem. Ethanol has a low boiling point so if your oil gets above 180 degrees, Ethanol will evaporate. It's especially a problem if you take too many short trips where your Oil is not reaching proper temperate. I'm practically reading this off memory so I can't explain exactly why you have fuel in your oil. I believe Gasoline in oil is fairly normal but never noticed because it not as noticeable.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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i think since its exposed to air directly it needs to be swapped for fresh e85 every couple of weeks at the least since E85 loves moisture.

Ive been wanting to get one of the NRG or Exospeed Fuel Cells but didn't know if their cells can handle E85 fine or not.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Awesome thread.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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actually i dont run my car down the track without it being at operating temp the logs show around 192 degrees at the most on a 1/4 mile short trip.

it was explained to me that e85 just breaks it down due to the amount of alcohal in it. 85% is alot of alcohal, and straight alcohal cars change oil alot due to this.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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What makes some of you think E85 is more corrossive than something like Q16 or worse vp import???

you can pretty much drink 100% Ethanol...
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Old May 7, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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this is a great idea but if i may ask:

by putting all the parts in the same container, wont some things have a chance of manipulating the results. such as, maybe the material it is made of will have a reaction with the fuel? contaminate the fuel? just ideas. i thought to make it more controlled, to use separate containers
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Old May 7, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
actually i dont run my car down the track without it being at operating temp the logs show around 192 degrees at the most on a 1/4 mile short trip.

it was explained to me that e85 just breaks it down due to the amount of alcohal in it. 85% is alot of alcohal, and straight alcohal cars change oil alot due to this.
You've got a problem if your oil is breaking down. Some fuel in the oil is normal, but if your oil is "breaking down" then you have a problem.

Apparently though, some guys running E85 have seen tar buildup. Not all Motor Oil are compatible with E85. It's just like the fuel system there are parts that will cause problems if they're not compatible. And the only way to find compatible parts is to network, use existing information on compatible parts and experiment.

And the explanation about it just breaking down because it has so much alcohol is only half of it. There are oils that don't break down with E85. And E85 is not exactly like Straight Methanol eg, the corrosion differences.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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correct im not running the brad penn stuff or synthetic even

im using gtx 10/30 wich isnt very spendy so i can feel good about changing it after every race.

I am getting ready to go back to royal purple though
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Alcohol.

That is how you spell it. Alcohol.





I am sorry... its just driving me insane.


Glad to see this thread.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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alcohal thats how i spell it alcohal
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
i think since its exposed to air directly it needs to be swapped for fresh e85 every couple of weeks at the least since E85 loves moisture.

Ive been wanting to get one of the NRG or Exospeed Fuel Cells but didn't know if their cells can handle E85 fine or not.
Your welcome to come over and swap it anytime
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Old May 8, 2010 | 04:47 AM
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Your welcome to come over and swap it anytime
LOL i aint worried about it....I already run E85 and makes gobs of power with it.
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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend who had a boat that got messed up by Ethanol that it is so bad that it will make your motor melt from the inside out in under 6 months and make your muffler bearings fail prematurely, anybody else experience this???
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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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I have. replaced my muffler bearings twice now. i dont know what else to do. so i just took them out and running it straight.
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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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does it mess with th flux capacitor at all i sure hope not
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Old May 8, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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my car has been sitting since September 27th with 3/4 tank of e85 in it. i started it up after i finally got a new motor/turbo setup and well it fired off on the first crank...AFR's were identical to what they were before, i see no water
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Old May 8, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
alcohal thats how i spell it alcohal
yore dum
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Old May 8, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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yup dum not dumb
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Old May 12, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
alcohal thats how i spell it alcohal
haha when i sound it out like that i sound like an inbred redneck. nice. i approve.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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ok lets go with corn booooz
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