The Effects of E85: Parts Test

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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Previous E85 User chiming in.

zero issues on stock fuel components minus injectors and fuel pump. (was using RC inj. and walbro FP)

This was on an all motor gsr with 11.5:1 compression.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Then pan is pretty full haha

Plus I dont think anyone would be using OEM fuel lines with E85
Ive used oem fuel lines along with countless buddies of mine! no issues at all!



Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
you should put some injector seals in there cause since i been using e85 evrytime i drive it hard they leak the next day..
thats weird, never had problems with my injector seals when i beat on my car.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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yeah i dont know whats going on with it i put in some diffent seals so ill see how they hold up
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Definitely getting a decent amount of fuel evaporating.

Doesnt look like the fuel has affected any of the parts yet.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Can u close that with glass and glue or something? Anyone had issues with aem fuelrail/fpr with e85? I drived only 2 tanks year ago cos its 100miles to e85 station..
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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I ran it through a Golden Eagle Rail and an Aeormotive FPR and it did not cause any problems.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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Can u close that with glass and glue or something? Anyone had issues with aem fuelrail/fpr with e85? I drived only 2 tanks year ago cos its 100miles to e85 station..
I ran an AEM Rail and Reg for a while on E85, not a single bit of oxidation/issues.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Can u close that with glass and glue or something? Anyone had issues with aem fuelrail/fpr with e85? I drived only 2 tanks year ago cos its 100miles to e85 station..
May not want to seal the container...... gases will build up inside could make for a exploding device.... not positive on this, but seeing as ethanol evaporates readilly at STP this could be an issue. I say just top it off each day or week..... would sorta simulate standard re-filling at the pump/ect.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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so, i highly doubt it will have any effect on anything that gasoline would not have an effect on.

are you doing this test strictly based on appearence? or did you mic the alum/steel parts prior to submersion? strength test on the hose, etc?
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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so, i highly doubt it will have any effect on anything that gasoline would not have an effect on.
How much do you know about E85? It is very different from gasoline.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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why people are still trying to find a reason to scrutinize the use of e85 because of supposed affects it causes some of us are really enjoying the use of it.

this is a great test to finally prove that it doesnt affect things the way some might think it does, but beware no matter what some will always try to negate the results
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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Let them eat cake!
Just not out of the test pan Fun test. Too bad you didn't have a glass carboy. Please keep away from heat and open flames.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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the braided fuel hoses, whether steel or nylon. have rubber lining on the inside, correct?

Looking forward to the results.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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lets not get into a debate here. great thread tho!

i would throw in a oem oil filter for testing as well.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 04:03 AM
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 04:58 AM
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LooooL There is absolutely no way Ethanol did this to an anodized AL Fitting.... are you sure you werent buring sulfuric acid in your car?

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 05:34 AM
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Good old citgo e85 for a year, killed my injectors too. I wasn't the only to have injector failure and pump failures locally.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGTUNA
Good old citgo e85 for a year, killed my injectors too. I wasn't the only to have injector failure and pump failures locally.
You and I have been back and fourth for a while now about E85, if you got the stuff from the same station and others had issues from that station I think we can narrow it down to either the station itself or who it gets the Ethanol from.... not the fuel itself, I have said it before and I will say it again that your experiences from using E85 are really the only issues I have ever heard of using it, and I honestly feel that what happened to you was very unfortunate because nobody else ever experiences the issues you had.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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maybe locally is the key word here?

Anyways we will see what my E85 does to similar parts.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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^^^ I have to agree
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 96 GSR-T
LooooL There is absolutely no way Ethanol did this to an anodized AL Fitting.... are you sure you werent buring sulfuric acid in your car?
You do realize that anodizing aluminum occurs in sulfuric acid right? Even sulfuric acid sitting on the part won't eat it up like that even after a year.
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Good old citgo e85 for a year, killed my injectors too. I wasn't the only to have injector failure and pump failures locally.
Uh...Chavez oil is your problem. Stop giving him money. Is there anyway you can take a sample of that station's gas and send it off for analysis compared to a different station's? Call your states department of agriculture and file a complaint...hope you saved your receipts.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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I agree, that BigTuna **** above is NO way typical of E85. NO WAY. If that is truly all out of an E85 pump, then I'd be contacting that manufacturer. That looks like methanol damage or even worse. I ran E85 for three years with NO trouble at all, on the same injectors. My a/n fittings didn't split in half and all that business.

I know a guy who's had various parts soaking in E85 for over 2 years with NO signs of any issue whatsoever. I think your spreading bad information. I've been on forums of various vehicles using E85, spreading my experiences for the benefit of others, and I've NEVER seen anyone have issues like that. I think unless there are other people, not local to you showing similar results then maybe it's plausible (though I'd still have hard time believing it), but otherwise, I think its a spread of bad info that can't be isolated solely to the usage of E85.

Like stated above, the dept of agriculture governs the consistency of E85 blends. I'd contact them and demand a test be done on that manufacturers E85. It appears to be methanol not ethanol.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Good old honda tech, a thread about e85 and its effects, I post my parts, that were solely run on e85 from the pump. This was my experience, which is what a forum is all about, sharing your experience. God only knows what was in those batches of e85, all I know is the damge something in fuel caused.

If you run e85 and your car starts acting up, missing, etc take the time to check system over, I lost a brand new fuel system, an lines, good pump, brand new rc injectors ect.

As for me being the only one, I disagree, many people have lost injectors etc with e85.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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i disagree, ive never heard or seen anyone "lose" injectors or pumps due to e85, or e98...including myself. sometimes people blame one thing just due to the fact that its different, when its actually something else that caused it. out of the 4 years ive delt with ethanol, ive never had any parts fail due to it, let alone any parts fail....besides dropping a valve once. haha. but i highly doubt thats because of running ethanol. lol.

methanol on the other hand...
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGTUNA
Good old honda tech, a thread about e85 and its effects, I post my parts, that were solely run on e85 from the pump. This was my experience, which is what a forum is all about, sharing your experience. God only knows what was in those batches of e85, all I know is the damge something in fuel caused.

If you run e85 and your car starts acting up, missing, etc take the time to check system over, I lost a brand new fuel system, an lines, good pump, brand new rc injectors ect.

As for me being the only one, I disagree, many people have lost injectors etc with e85.
And many people have had Injectors fail using Gasoline, Ethanol does not chew through Metal like a hot knife through butter, the only thing I see in your pics that is even remotely consistent with my experiences with Ethanol is the white chalky like powder, I found some on my Valves and a little in my Regulator but I just wiped it right out and went on about my business.

If I was you I would take all the steps mentioned above to find out what that station is really selling, because its not Ethanol.
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