The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 12, 2010 | 03:34 PM
  #126  
SPOOLINmatt's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,913
Likes: 0
From: North Georgia/Atlanta
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Originally Posted by gringotegra
my car has been sitting since September 27th with 3/4 tank of e85 in it. i started it up after i finally got a new motor/turbo setup and well it fired off on the first crank...AFR's were identical to what they were before, i see no water

Drain some into a glass and let it sit and see if it seperates for us!
Reply
Old May 12, 2010 | 06:42 PM
  #127  
gringotegra's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,750
Likes: 5
From: Vancouver, WA, USA
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
Drain some into a glass and let it sit and see if it seperates for us!

I ran it till empty

an my car still runs, dives and AFR's have not changed...
Reply
Old May 12, 2010 | 07:35 PM
  #128  
VtecCarHauler's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

nice test
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 05:15 PM
  #129  
boostworksny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Upstate NY
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Everything is still unharmed
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2010 | 09:27 AM
  #130  
boostworksny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Upstate NY
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Its been over a month. I let the E85 fully evaporate over the last few days. Nothing in the container shows any signs of corrosion.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2010 | 04:20 PM
  #131  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

not for a month, no. Not surprising at all Give it a year of continual use, and try and start the car in low degree temps. That will help with your mythbuster-style test. You may find some additional changes but not all, and you'll be able to confirm and "bust" myths associated with the extensive use of this fuel.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2010 | 04:42 PM
  #132  
boostworksny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Upstate NY
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

If NOTHING happened in a month do you really think anything will happen over a longer period of time? When things are corrosive they are pretty instant. Corrosion usually isnt a gradual process.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2010 | 10:03 PM
  #133  
vwbased's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 177
Likes: 1
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

have a nice day

Last edited by vwbased; Jan 27, 2013 at 09:19 PM. Reason: have a nice day
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 04:24 AM
  #134  
AWD_TERROR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

I have been using this fuel for 1-1/2 years now. I left my tank 3/4-full when I parked the truck over the winter (Michigan). I would go out and start it every few weeks when it was damn cold outside. It was harder starting for sure, but not impossible. Once spring came around, I used the same fuel left inthe tank to drive the truck to the nearest E85 (E70) station and fill back up. Monitoring things in my BS3, there was nothing I needed to address.

Great fuel, great results, great price.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:47 AM
  #135  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Originally Posted by boostworksny
If NOTHING happened in a month do you really think anything will happen over a longer period of time? When things are corrosive they are pretty instant. Corrosion usually isnt a gradual process.
No. no one should jump to that conclusion so quickly after only one month duration. Not to mention it was not with continual and consistent use of the fuel in an non-E85 manufactured application. It's not just the corrosion that one needs to look at when it comes to the drawbacks of this fuel. You must look at the lines themselves if one doesn't use a Gas drier, nor does it account for difficulties in colder temperature cold starts or the effects it has on the tank itself. When one does a test, it must be over a period of time, not just a "snap shot".
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:17 AM
  #136  
Axix24's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 3
From: USA-JAPAN
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

can u mix e85 with 93 octane gas?
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 04:52 PM
  #137  
boostworksny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Upstate NY
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Originally Posted by TheShodan
No. no one should jump to that conclusion so quickly after only one month duration. Not to mention it was not with continual and consistent use of the fuel in an non-E85 manufactured application. It's not just the corrosion that one needs to look at when it comes to the drawbacks of this fuel. You must look at the lines themselves if one doesn't use a Gas drier, nor does it account for difficulties in colder temperature cold starts or the effects it has on the tank itself. When one does a test, it must be over a period of time, not just a "snap shot".
This test was just for corrosion.

Before I started the test i was thinking this stuff was gonna eat through some stuff.

Its been a month - whether you consider that enough time or not is up to you. But this stuff has NOT showed one sign of corrosion on ANY of the test items. It hasnt even affected any of the paint/coatings on any of the items.

I truly find it hard to believe that E85 will eat away a fuel system
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:17 PM
  #138  
SPOOLINmatt's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,913
Likes: 0
From: North Georgia/Atlanta
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

If you have water that is standing in a mud puddle, its not corrosive. If you have that water start rushing through that mud hole its starts eroding the land around it. So basically what im saying is....if its going to be its most destructive, its when its flowing passed the materials and fittings under pressure. I use E85 and i dont believe its going to cause an issue, but im just stating in lame terms what i think some of these guys are arguing a point of.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:43 PM
  #139  
gringotegra's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,750
Likes: 5
From: Vancouver, WA, USA
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

E85 has done nothing to my car in the past 3 years ive been on it....
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:46 PM
  #140  
91redteg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,549
Likes: 0
From: trbho, WA, united states
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

I've only been on e85 for a few months but up until this point the only negative effects ive seen are that i maxxed my fuel system out, and now for some reason my car likes to do roll-on 5th gear burnouts. Gosh darn e85 letting me make race gas power on my stock motor for 2.74 a gallon. Anyone know a good place to get that 92 octane stuff ive heard about? Myles can you help me out with this?
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 12:27 AM
  #141  
123gt's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Do all walbro fuel pumps work well with E85?
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 01:13 AM
  #142  
cbustuner's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
From: columbus, ohio, usa
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

While this is bumped up I wanted to add this..
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2797075&page=2

Bigtuna mentioned ethanol was responsible for his aeromotive pump failure. In the above thread the op pretty much had the same problem as he did (magnets came unglued) and that pump was never ran on ethanol, only leaded race gas and only for a total of about 2 hours before the failure occurred.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 04:55 AM
  #143  
Evile140's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
From: Evansville, IN, USA
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Buddy of mine with a small block ford had some E-85 issues. His heads where ported past the pushrod holes in a few areas. The porter used an epoxy (probably JB) to skim over the holes and also fill in areas to raise the floor a bit. The E85 turned the epoxy to goo, pushrod hole sucked oil, detonation, feels bad.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 07:14 AM
  #144  
sanman000719's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,906
Likes: 1
From: KS
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^

doesnt sound like its the fault of e85 to me, but rather the way the posrt job was done, and the lack of either experimentation as well as research of the affects e85 would have on said epoxy
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 07:14 AM
  #145  
sanman000719's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,906
Likes: 1
From: KS
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

I have also been running an a1000 on e85 for 2 years now with no issues from the pump what so ever
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 07:44 AM
  #146  
E85B18's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,204
Likes: 0
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Some people have had problems with aeromotive in general and when something goes wrong they look for a "fault" other than just failure. I don't believe E85 is the issue. There are so many people (including me) that have run E85 for years with no issues.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:32 AM
  #147  
cbustuner's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
From: columbus, ohio, usa
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

I've been running it for awhile with no issues as well.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 12:14 PM
  #148  
AlexDphoto's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,193
Likes: 2
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

plan on making the switch soon. good to see the results
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 12:27 PM
  #149  
sanman000719's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,906
Likes: 1
From: KS
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

just do yourself a favor upfront with the switch ide deffinately go to id2k's
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 02:21 PM
  #150  
slowcrx954's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: hollywood, fl, us
Default Re: The Effects of E85: Parts Test

Originally Posted by sanman000719
just do yourself a favor upfront with the switch ide deffinately go to id2k's

has anyone have a problem with residue(black substance) on injectors?i see a few problems with this.some car more then others,but i seen a car car go lean after a few miles because of it.just hard to pinpoint the problem.my honda civic 1050 injector gets a light residue after a 1000 miles in florida.other then that i love this ****!

imo,e85 makes it alot easier to run all motor vs turbo,higher compression+biggercams+all motor power.with some octane left over for the bottle!
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:02 PM.