Well i am using a competition stage 4 6 puck with sprung hub and my **** isnt working.

 

WTF is going on here , are we going to come to a resolution before spring or what.

I want to know right now when did you guys purchase your kit? Honestly i think there is a manufactures defect around this time line.

Hey brownkid what time did you call QSD at i been having issues trying to get a hold of them.


1.Fukenricen- dec2007/jan2008-
2.

 

1.Fukenricen- dec2007/jan2008-
2.Brownkid - may08

 

May 08 for me also drop shipped from them

 

so far same year, now i know people who are not having issues purchased it a year or two before us

1.Fukenricen- dec2007/jan2008-
2.Brownkid - may08
3.Turboedsupe- may 08

 

INCORRECT, i purchased mine in spring 08'

 

sounds like a major engineering problem to me. if you cant use different cluthes with this kit, wouldnt that contribute to a design flaw? sounds like a bad batch of cnc parts. ive seen it many times before and im sure alot of mfg can vouch for this.

evo needs to exchange another kit for turbo . imo

 

I purchased mine in june 08 and it works perfect.....maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones??.....I originally wanted qsd but was not able to get in contact with them, email or fone......so I went the other route with evolution and don't regret it one bit......just sucks that so many ppl is having problems with it just because we all know these kits aren't cheap

 

HOLY CRAP!!!! Parker actually made sense. EVO should IMO be offering a free exchange of product to all the customers that are having problems, even if it means exchanging the whole kit. If this were Skunk2 or another larger manufacturer we'd all be screaming blue murder here. EVO: Take the hint, man up to a problem and do something about it instead of allowing your employees to further tarnish your reputation. You customers are pissed and it appears that they are correct in being that way.

 

Has anyone bother to check and see what alloy the flywheels are? How strong they are? From reading through this thread it seams that the people that are having major issues are the ones with heavy duty/extreme single disk's clutch setups. Put a ACT extreme PP on a cheap ebay aluminum flimsy flywheel and the flywheel will twist and deform when the clutch is disengaged. This will be especially evident when the clutch/flywheel gets some heat in it and as time goes by the flywheel will be warp causing more shifting issues. A couple thousands warpage or twist will wreak havoc.

Just some food for thought.

 

i dont think its a cnc problem at all if you look at when the kits were purchased. mheant2b and i both have success w/ the kit and we both got our kits in spring/summer 08 same as others who are having issues.

im telling you guys the problem depends upon the brand clutch you are using. every clutch is different and some may be well in spec and others may be on the outer limit of spec compared to stock or to the clutch evo based the kit from.

if you have ever noticed some clutches come w/ a card which tells you how much step the flywheel should have from the mating surface to the friction surface.

am i the only one who realizes this?

 

I can vouch for Evolution that the material they are using definitely NOT inferior like whatever the ebay flywheels are made out of. Evolution is using FORGED 6061-T6 aluminum on all their flywheels.

 

x2 i was just about to post something similar......

 

So it sounds like the cure to this whole fiasco is to resurface the flywheel friction ring down to a specified thickness that the clutch manufacturer recommends for their particular clutch. Would it be safe to suggest that Evolution machine the mating surface another .010 deeper than whats called for on the drawing??

 

i guess it would be a good idea to get specs from as many clutch manufacturers as possible and see where their flywheel falls in the range.

but for a fix to the current customers it would be best to treat each case by itself and machine each flywheel to what each clutch manufacturer recommends.


just throwing out an idea at this point.

if turbo sends me his parts i will be able to verify if there is a difference between his and mine which could cause his not to work.

 

Evolution is working on this issue on hand as far as I know. But these things take time and to look at all the sides of the issue to really figure out what could be wrong.

I've personally sold over 50 of these kits since they were released and never had a customer call me regarding an issue.
Its unfortunate some of you are experiencing some issues with this.
From what I read, its the clutch not engaging fully. And that could possibly be a pressure plate issue. In the past, in regular non adpater setups, I personally had certain Clutches that were engaging too early. Similar to the issue being spoken about. So it could be that tolerances with each clutch manufacturer is different and its causing this issue with certain people.

I'm not saying the EVO kit is 100% flawless. We dont know yet if something in the kit is or not the cause. But the problem on hand is nothing new. It can happen with or without an adapter setup.

 

now how much clearances are we talking here? .001? .010? .100?

 

to make things easier evolution should give us a list of compatible clutches, so ppl wouldnt have to go through this

 

i am curious as to what clutch was used in the design process.

 

They said they deal with action clutch

 

and i agree w/ this 100%

the same problems can occur w/o the use of an adapter plate, i have seen it many times.

i cant stress enough each clutch is different and requires the proper flywheel "step".

who knows, in some cases the flywheel may be too thin instead of too thick?? again, i will be looking into the matter myself when i pull mine apart. i will try to get some specs from different clutch manufacturers and compare them to my flywheel next week after i drop the motor/trans.

 

i have never seen or used an action clutch

 

Pressure Plates are so different from brand to brand. And with each brand having different levels. It would be hard to pin point what will work or not. I had an ACT in an LS/VTEC that would over engage no matter what we did, but changed it to an ACTION clutch and it was smooth and perfect. But another ACT clutch was flawless in another setup also.
You have super high pressure ratings on some of these clutches that arent even necessary in some of these cars.

 

i basically wrote a whole novel of things that i sugested then was looking to spell chk (clayton spell chk police) then couldnt find it. i have no clue about this site anymore and now lost my 30 min speech on here. im pist off and now im gonna ask.

how in the world does anyone use this site for : emocons, spell check and etc etc. i cant seem to find it.

now everything that i was gonna explain about this kit is now lost. sorry guys i aint gonna try and write that all over again. lol

 

i hear ya, it has happened to me several times already. i now copy and save the post before submiting it haha.

my search function isnt working either. i have expressed my feelings toward this site and have been hushed by the mods several times already.

so heres one for you mr. parks

now everyone check out:
http://h22squad.proboards23.com/index.cgi
quick before they delete the link hahaha