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Any engine management system is as good as the tuner.

 

^^X2

 

ALL MOTOR, your an ectune tuner aye? With an Ectune Tuner license provided by Calvin? I'm sure you have a neptune tuner license as well from James huh?

Just because you have played with a pro bundle, and/or an RTP doesn't mean you have the right to take advantage of others offering your bull **** tuning services.

I'm a huge ectune fan and supporter, but you my friend are a complete *** hat that is horrible for this business and a disgrace to tuners that actually paid in to a tuner license.

You really showed your *** here flaunting your ignorance fool. Sad thing is, everyone knows it but you. The reason you don't know is because your experience is extremely limited as you have never reached any of the many limitations of a stock oem based ecu.

Are you honestly trying to convince everyone that you have successfully used either ems with a staged injected cop honda?

Your in the drag racing forum, bragging about 104 traps.. in the quarter mile? This isn't 1989, that bitch is JUNK and honestly gives all honda's in general an extremely bad name. I honestly want to burn honda's like yours when I see them at the track wasting everyone's time.

 

Really, a DD integra 13.1@104 on street tires is junk? So, all of your customers show up with 11 sec all motor and 9 to 10 sec turbo cars?

Don't you think you went over board with the dispersions?

 

I wasn't bragging.. about anything.. Infact, i was just stating what my last setup ran, someone asked, i told. I have no idea what my new motor will run, but i'm pretty sure it'll be 110+traps...I think..yall need to get a grip..seriously..Yall are taking to heart everything said. I understand using a full standalone I do.. But alot of builds.. aren't as extreme as you see in this forum.. Everyday builds, dont require or need.. all of that..if your spending 20k on a car, might as well go with a full stand alone... i can concur with your thoughts.. But dont be so biases when you reply.. you just look ignorant.

 

im satisfied with the s300

 

3 800whp monsters, and a shitload of 4-700 whp street cars here S300 gets my vote. in the 9's on s300 why bother with anything else motec next!!!

 

I wonder what these guys run and how much power they make?: https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/td-autowerkes-ek-final-race-%40ifo-bradenton-2009-a-2662454/

 

Same here!!!!

Seriously? Try almost everyone in this thread.

 

This AllMotor guy does this in every thread to get his post numbers up.

 

Dumb *** all motor

What the **** do u know about cars. Because you only spent 7K on your car and 128K on your house that does not mean people dont spend over 40K in their race car and over 200K on their house.

I used neptune when it first came out, had bunch of problems. I switched to S300 and I was happy with the system. I think I'm gonna give Aem a shot now.

 

You wont be disappointed.

 

<<<Originally Posted by 4piston
I'm about 2 weeks from a FAST XFI.>>>

- Screw the bandwagons. Run what your instincts tell you, what works for you.
You'll have more fun out there racing and forget about the "printer jam" ecu haha.

 

I don't understand why people have had so many problems with NepTune.

I tune with it practically everyday and have none of the issues that you guys are having. I know the software like the back of my hand, so that might have something to do with it.

I will say that it takes a bit to get use to, but I believe it is one of the most versatile OEM based softwares out there, and it definitely keeps getting better each year.

And for Dave F, if you ever need any help with a NepTune based car.. I am only a phone call away. If you were just tunning an all motor car you should have absolutely no problem with resolution in the RPM or Map scalar as they are both user definable.

My vote for the basic sub 700whp civic/integra is definitely NepTune as far as this debate goes. I have never been a big Hondata guy, and probably never will.. but that system has its perks as well.

I know for most dedicated drag cars a system with more control and COP capabilities is a must, but for the street/strip warrior you can't beat a OEM based system that works for the price!

 

LOL!!! best engine mangament thread EVER!!!

 

Woooo! What a thread. I bet you guys had fun.

Some misinformation to be corrected: NepTune can control absolute timing. There's boost comp. The single map resolution is 24x24, but that can actually be extended to up to 48x48 if you use the secondary map options available, which may not be 50x50 (Exaggeration), but you can do some pretty cool stuff with the scaling to create more resolution in the areas that you need to. A stock ECU can be fitted to run COP, but unfortunately some of the minds who can do such a thing don't have the funds to bring it to market. Actually, there's so much misinformation and slaying in this thread, I think I'm going to stop with the corrections.

I agree, a stock ECU system can be incredibly versatile, even beyond the customer's comprehension of what some of the features can be used for, but it may still not be enough for some of the incredible setups out there today. I respect the stuff you guys do regardless of whether you go with my product or something that works better for you. Keep up the incredible headway that's continuing to be made in this market!

And seriously, if anyone does run into a problem with NepTune... Email me or post on my forum. You'll likely get a response within a few hours *at most*. I'm practically available 24/7. I'm honestly not sure why I'm hearing about some of these stories for the first time.

 

i used it again tonight, and also checked out the help section, and learned a bit more about the software. its not as bad as i thought !

 

I've used NepTune for a few years myself. Actually, I was a beta tester for James when it first came out. I can vouch for his fast response time. If he or one of the mods over there can't figure it out then you must have really messed up. lol

As for this All Motor fellow.... I've never heard of him before. Typically the testers and mods all communicate together and I don't believe I've EVER spoken with you before.... You sure you're a tester? Was it for the new RTP setup or the older RTP stuff?

 

Iam curious why no one is using Autronic these days. I remember a few years back a few big name guys were using it. When I attended EFI university I remember Ben Strader saying that he thought it was a great system and that some of the design was done by former Motec employees. Can anyone shed some light ?
I personally like SDS and constantly get dogged by people because they like Hondata,Motec,Microtech ETC. but it is the system I know best and thats why I use it. I guess if I was building cars that needed to be on the cutting edge I would probably be using a different stand alone.

 

Motec was owned by two Richard's and one stayed with Motec and the other started Autronic. Autronic isn't as popular since it's support network is not as large as Motec's.
Doesn't mean the ecu isn't as good.. In some aspects it's better.. I use it on every project I do. I honestly believe the best ecu out there would be a Motec/Autronic combo...

But in the end the ECU is only as good as the guy using it...

 

VAFC!!

i know a ton of VW guys that use autronic and swear buy it. ive never even looked at the software, i'll go download it now if its available online haha

 

The Autronic software is really nice, you can fingerblast thru it in seconds using only a few keys. There are very useful tools in the software that really help the tuning process.

It doesn't have a bunch of flashy windows and icons. I guess thats why I see people saying they hate the software? But for someone who takes the time (or is taught) how to use everything it can do, it is a very useful tool.

There are a couple little annoyances with the system overall.

My favorite system would be a combo of Autronic and one or two other systems as well.

I guess thats why you hear of a new standalone company being created every month!

 

I am curious as to why more people dont use the Electromotive units. For those of you who are familiar with it, What are your opinions on it Pros and cons compaired to others?

 

uh oh here we go lol

at the end of the day almost every ecu out there will run an engine. its the additional features that set one ecu apart from another.

a lot of guys say certain brand ecus are too expensive (yes some are not cheap, no doubt about it) but what is interesting to me is that they will buy XXX brand ecu for a couple grand, a logger for a couple grand, an ignition box with advance rate limiters and such, a boost controller, and alllllll these other things that some of the higher end ecu's can do all contained in one unit. suddenly you realize these fancy ecus are cheaper in the end than buying all of the other stuff you need to get the system to do what you want. not to mention having to check 20 logs and make 20 changes on 20 different software's between rounds.

i'll be the first one to admit its easier to spend 1000 dollars 3 times than it is to spend 3000 at once. numerous ways to do things thats for sure